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davidf
Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 8:29 AM

WORD PUZZLES

It is funny that people complain about word puzzles because they don't do so good. Someone took the time to write them, some are hard some are not, if they make the effort then you should make the effort to be polite also. Oh and why I am on the subject of not being critical, where are the Kate Winslet wps, ah Kate Winslet

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 11:32 AM

Don't forget - anyone can pay a little extra (for a Platinum membership) for the chance to write WPs on any subjects they want and get all that adulation for themselves!


bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.0 - Posts: 2301)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 11:34 AM

David: I'll do one on Kate if you do one on Patrick Stewart....ummm

As far as comments about WPs, you are right and I feel back about my comment last night. But I really meant it. I had invited my next door neighbors over. I have been trying to convince them to upgrade their Spoofus to gold for about a year and invited them to do the WP with me to show them how clever they were and how fun and how the clues worked. Then...that.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 12:36 PM

One person's "gimme" clue is another person's "challenge" clue.

I think the harsh and sometimes extreme comments on word puzzles won't help the puzzle maker the next time they make an attempt, if critics haven't crushed their spirit already. Saying something like, "I couldn't understand the clue" is different than saying a "clue sucks." On another thread, someone said that the puzzle maker (when he/she writes the puzzle) creates clues that make perfect sense to them. If a lot of people don't understand the clue, then it's good for the writer to go back and rethink how they wrote it.

Also, if the WP is on a theme with which the writer is extremely familiar, all clues you write will seem logical and easy. If the taker isn't familiar with the subject then the puzzle may seem hard to almost impossible.

(For example, I don't watch soap operas, so a WP on that topic will be impossible for me to do well, but it doesn't mean the WP is bad. And it doesn't mean I can't enjoy it on a different level.)

I think with a recent puzzle, it made a difference in the age of the solver, whether or not they knew some of the songs/artists and if they could do the combination of putting two answers together while making a modification in one word. This kind of puzzle has been done before, but if you didn't know up front it was that kind of puzzle, it might take awhile to figure it out.

I think getting feedback is a good thing. It helps the writer with their next attempt. If you are a puzzle taker (and we all are) and you're frustrated after having taken a puzzle, think about how you'd like to get feedback if you were the writer and what info would you like to receive that would help you the next time you write a puzzle.

Peace.

bleepy
Bleepy  (Level: 140.2 - Posts: 620)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:01 PM

Well said, Pepper!!

keithr81052
Keithr81052  (Level: 144.2 - Posts: 147)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:15 PM

if the only response an author gets to wps or quizzes for that matter are warm fuzzy allocades their efforts will never get better or change, although no one likes to hear negative comments, constructive criticizm can be helpful

bleepy
Bleepy  (Level: 140.2 - Posts: 620)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:26 PM

Keith... You are correct. But there is a way to convey the message in an appropriate way. Making a public declaration that a puzzle "sucks" does not correct the situation. I think the editor needs to help the author finalize his/her work if needed. It's really no big deal.

And...There's never anything wrong with thanking a person for submitting his/her work. It takes effort and probably some courage to publish.

R.

tresgatos
Tresgatos  (Level: 204.2 - Posts: 4185)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:32 PM

Indeed, well said, Pepper!

I imagine all WP authors are open to constructive criticism. The key, for me, is being polite and taking the time to think about how criticism might impact authors.

-- Geri

donleigh
Donleigh  (Level: 147.5 - Posts: 5073)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:36 PM

I think if your comments go from 'constuctive criticism' to really negative, a PM would be a better idea. Attackng the people who write the WP - editor or platinum - is not a way to encourage more people to go platinum.
I have no problem with criticism, just the negativity it engenders. I have, on the other hand, not changed some clues and phrases just 'cause they can be googled because of some of the comments in here. I didn't want to get slammed for writing a WP that was too hard, or had vague clues.


bleepy
Bleepy  (Level: 140.2 - Posts: 620)
Sun, 27th Jul '08 1:41 PM

And one more thing... Hiding the dig within' some "cute small talk" doesn't help, either. Most of us can read beween the lines!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Tue, 29th Jul '08 3:02 PM

"""But there is a way to convey the message in an appropriate way. Making a public declaration that a puzzle "sucks" does not correct the situation."""

This post sucks.

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.0 - Posts: 2301)
Tue, 29th Jul '08 3:40 PM

Gad I love you Smaug. Wanna marry me? I am dying to spend the rest of my life with a person so filled with compassion and joy. Feel the love.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Tue, 29th Jul '08 11:09 PM

Bump

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Wed, 30th Jul '08 11:44 PM

Chick....
Are you inside my monitor????
Did you bump into the glass????
Are you hurt????


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