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Garrybl  (Level: 291.5 - Posts: 6769)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:01 AM


I've been a follower of American Football for 25 years --and the puzzle really aggravated me.
I wasnt happy to run into an insoluble name problem on my first guess which got me up to 20 guesses (the usual pick a letter till you get it right trap) and it didnt get any better for me.
Just a personal opinion; those who like this sort of puzzle will doubtless find it the sort of thing they like. But if I did not know the raw data I can guess others will have more problems.

Nothing personal to the setter; but I'm not convinced this sort of puzzle is a good idea.

Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5407)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:04 AM

I liked the puzzle - it was a challenge to think of the answers. If people are unfamiliar with American football (as opposed to real football) they can google the clues.

Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:05 AM

I still have a real problem with humus....oops wrong thread

1mks  (Level: 219.5 - Posts: 5925)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:10 AM

I was thinking of different "positions"...
I actually knew quite a few......all the sports fanatics should do very well.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:45 AM

Yeah Sure....all the football FANATICS should do well
And everyone else is left in the dust....

Mr. could at least have put the TEAMS
in the clues!!!! Then we could have a chance if we Google

I swear....if there are any more RIDICULOUSLY hard
SPORTS puzzles - or many others that require the
members to be AMERICAN die-hard fans of ""Music""
I too will consider dropping out....this is a "Trivia" site
and it has Sports/Music Forums in the Trivia Quizzes....
Please put your D*****F******S***** questions in the
appropriate Quiz Section!!!!
These Word Puzzles are for all of us!!!!

(signed) Pissed Off in Canada.............

Flcyclist  (Level: 131.1 - Posts: 691)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:57 AM

This was the very first WP I actually considered just quitting. It was ridiculously hard. There's no logic to names and unless you're into the sport (which I'm NOT), it's practically impossible to solve. Totally awful puzzle for me!!!

Crazy4games  (Level: 124.7 - Posts: 1019)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:49 AM

I happen to know squat about football, so needless to say I didn't do well on the puzzle, and that's okay.
You can't please everyone all the time.

However, the author of this puzzle is currently sitting in 4th place, whick just doesn't sit well with me.
Go ahead, solve your own puzzle, but please fill in all the spaces, and take your sweet time doing it.

Lucimoore  (Level: 192.1 - Posts: 1732)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:59 AM

I would have enjoyed the puzzle because I dearly love American football, however, three names in my puzzle were misspelled. I have submitted a support ticket but a player would just have to add letters in order to get some of the names correct. I also enjoy foreign sports.

Roby19  (Level: 58.9 - Posts: 26)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 12:10 PM

I've taken my own wps. Not once did it say that I couldn't. That should be changed. Sploofus should offer the author a special point award for making word puzzles. I thought this was a good puzzle. I guess I'm wrong. Like carzy4games said, you can't win them all. Believe me when I say that by the time this puzzle ends, I'll end up placing in the 30's or 40's. But I've always selected letters. If this is the case implied, I would've had only 5 moves. Most of the time, I place in the 100's. In fact the best showing I ever had in a word puzzle was 24th place.

I'll do my best to bring out a better puzzle. Again I'm sorry.

Roby19  (Level: 58.9 - Posts: 26)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 12:14 PM

I also apologize if I spelled some of the names wrong. I was rushed when I made this word puzzle.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 12:39 PM

Well Roby....
You'll certainy get points for SPEED as well as placement!!!!
You wouldn't also happen to be "CUTTER" would you????
The Editors said the Author could take the Puzzles
with the proviso that they ensure they place lower
on the leaderboards!!!
We don't care for Authors who write extremely difficult WPs
so that they can ace them when they solve their own Puzzle

And if you only wrote the WP to get the extra points....
Apologies after the fact don't cut it !!!!

Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 12:47 PM

Rowlanda, I hope I never get on your bad side.

Crazy4games  (Level: 124.7 - Posts: 1019)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:00 PM

Geez Rolanda....its only a word puzzle for crying out loud!!

Pennwoman  (Level: 161.8 - Posts: 2476)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:08 PM

I don't understand how a quiz gets posted with so many spelling errors? I can understand a typo once in a while, but shouldnt care be taken when you are putting something for all the world to see?

Roby19  (Level: 58.9 - Posts: 26)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:32 PM

I'm sending a message to Sploofabulous alerting him or her that I won't write anymore WPs. I'm sick and tired of being ridiculed for what I do. It's bad enough that someone in another group I used to belong to had the nerve to tell me that a character I created was an "inside joke". I don't need it here too. I spend $79 a year to belong here. I might take that money elsewhere.

I'm sorry if some people didn't like my puzzle, I am also sorry that some of you don't like or understand football, and I am also sorry for taking it myself. I'll have my place taken off the board if possible.

Look at the number of moves I had, 52. I average about 60 per puzzle. If I leave Sploofus, cancel my membership, disqualify myself and take back any points from prior quizzes I authored, will this fix the problem? I'm the son of a journalist, although I didn't follow in my mother's footsteps, I did learn how to write through her anyhow. I don't need this needless, senseless criticism. I will cancel my membership on August 19th when my platinum membership runs out. Again will this satisfy everyone?

Salzypat  (Level: 161.3 - Posts: 5414)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:36 PM

This was one of the few puzzles I've ever bailed on, but I am so sports challenged that I was coming up with no clue as to what I was doing and decided it would be a waste of my time to try to punch in letters. I probably wouldn't have gotten over 500 points by the time I was done.

But I won't chastise the author for writing a puzzle he liked and I'm sure there are sports fans who enjoyed the puzzle. If there were spelling errors, that should not have happened. I find it best not to write these things in one sitting and to go back and reread them a day later to be sure I haven't missed anything.

Anyway, I don't think every puzzle has to be suited to every single player and if I have to bail once in a while, that's OK with me. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff --

Foogs  (Level: 280.1 - Posts: 848)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:36 PM

So should I do it now or wait? No indication that the
mistakes have been corrected. Probably won't since
I only have a half hour left before going back to work.

Sounds like a charmer, though.

Glad I didn't do it at 7 am as I usually do. The fact
I don't "know" Roby19 told me to wait. I've started a
list of people who include spelling errors on puzzles.

Lucimoore  (Level: 192.1 - Posts: 1732)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 1:58 PM

Sorry if Roby19 took offense at my post concerning the spelling errors. I appreciate getting a warning before I start the puzzle if there are errors and I'm sure Roby would feel the same. It was not a personal attack on him and I did send in a support ticket. Had there been just one I might have not posted but when I had three out of five then I guessed others would have at least one or two of the same. I tried to PM him however his profile is no longer available.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 2:16 PM

Sorry if I offended any of you with my vociferousness....
Just don't like "Cheaters" in any forum
I'm also sick of the string of Sports and Pop Music
Puzzles we've had lately....
I have been too busy with health and logistic problems
lately, and it hurts to lose points because I was not able
to get to the computer in time for the WP....
This person's "deliberate mistakes" were the last straw!!!!

Promise NEVER to get so angry with you two, Embee and
Crazy4Games....but then, you don't cheat !!!!

Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 2:30 PM

Jeeze, they're droppin' like flies around here.

Just for the record, I bungled through the WP, I only recognized one of the names, I didn't know what at least one of the positions was, and the misspellings didn't phase me 'cause I didn't know how any of it was properly spelled anyway. This is why I avoid sports questions whenever possible.

But enough about me. And enough piling on the author of the WP. Anybody who bothers to write one and gets it past an editor may not merit your awestruck admiration, but I think this sort of snarky abuse is uncalled for. The editor's name is right there, why don't you complain about him/her wasting your valualble time by not keeping inferior fare away from your eyes? That's what you pay them for, after all.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 2:34 PM

I like Sploofabulous....
Don't usually criticise Authors....
As I said....hate Cheaters
And that's my insignificant opinion

Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 2:35 PM

Sorry folks but I actually enjoyed that puzzle but I admit to being a football fan - it did take me a fairly long time and I could see where it could throw folks for a loop. Didn't encounter any spelling problems.
My puzzle tonight might get me in trouble too so I will stop at the sporting goods store on the way home from work and get a reinforced cup.
P.S. I just checked and I actually think Roby left us - sure hope he comes back

Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 2:49 PM

Row--I guess I didn't see any cheating going on. It looked like Roby blundered into placing too high in the leaderboard, and probably will fall out of the top ten before the day is over anyway, and how many points would be awarded if he stuck in 7th place anyway? (I really don't know.) I don't like cheaters either, but didn't see this as cheating. Poor quiz writing, perhaps. The criticism seemed extreme, and not just yours. I just cringe when I see a quiz or puzzle damned as terrible or horrible or hateful in a public forum, when the person is right there reading it as soon as you post it. Maybe you know something about Roby that I don't. All I know now is he was at level fifty-something, he cared enough about Sploofus to be a Plat, and he got mad or hurt or embarrassed enough by the response to his WP to say "Chuck It".

Too bad.

Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5407)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:11 PM

Wow, this is a little nasty for a Monday. Football is not to everyones taste, and the spelling errors also slipped past an editor who shares responsibility. As for taking you own WP, I always try to take it late in the day so I can see how many moves I need to take. That is not cheating, and Roby19 seems to have taken more than enough moves to be in the middle of the pack. The fact that it is taking everybody else a lot of moves is not his fault.
If we are going to attack each other, maybe we shouldn't be writing WPs - kinda like when your mother told you to play nice or you could go sit in your room.
I enjoy the challenge of writing WPs, but I'm willing to give it back to the editors in order to retain the members we have now.
Now, you will play nicely with your sister and brother or you will go pull all the weeds in the back forty.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:21 PM

I will NOT!

Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:27 PM

I usually try to do my own puzzle very early. I'm always afraid a spelling error somehow slipped in there. Fortunatley my editor has been great and caught a couple of my errors before the puzzles were finalized. I think we have been instructed to insert every letter in the puzzles.
P.S. And Don - you better play nice with Donna

Sploofus Editor
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:38 PM

The spelling errors have been corrected. Thank you for the support ticket.

As an editor, I sincerely apologize that the errors were not caught. I also know nothing about American football, and a puzzle about that area terrifies me, because of my own lack of knowledge. We do our best, and appreciate player help when something gets past us.

I am saddened by the harsh judgments in this thread. It isn't easy to compose a puzzle and expose yourself to public criticism. To make an assumption that "cheating" was intended is clearly out-of-line. How can one cheat with your name right there for all to see? Obviously the author did not realize how difficult his puzzle would be. I do not see intent here at all. My apology to the author.

I think we all accept criticism if it is objective and fair.


Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:38 PM

I didn't think this puzzle was bad. In fact I liked it. Spelling errors were all corrected by then of course.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:44 PM

I didn't get the spelling errors but I did have an issue with one of the positions.

Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:47 PM

Mercy! Folks are complain like a French swimming team in here today!

I'm skert to try this one, though I do claim to know a thing or two about football. But even if I stink at it (and have on several Platipuzzles) I cannot denigrate someone for creating a puzzle just because I don't know the topic material.

How the heck else are we to learn?

(NOTE: All this is contingent to just how I fare on the puzzle.....)

Bbear  (Level: 166.9 - Posts: 2297)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:51 PM

Well..... I got cut out before I started, had it reset, was working on #4 (and getting my butt kicked) and accidently hit the back button.

I don't have the guts to ask for a second would be too fishy sounding.

So...I guess a big fat zero for the day (and I was in the top 25 for the month, darn in).

I thought it was very tough but not tough enough to be just plain mean. You realize he has quit Sploofus (at level 59!)

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 3:58 PM

I thought it was a good quiz. The author tried to be a little cute, but I actually knew them all except one's last name. (lucky guess). I would've beat Slicko's ass but I was too conservative with some spelling. DON'T QUIT # 19 !!!!! It was a decent quiz and if were you, I'd write one looking for left-handed bowlers from Pennsylvania next time. If someone doesn't like your stuff do like they say on the radio- "CHANGE THE CHANNEL !!" I heard the same crap about my flying squirrels and the editors told me they loved it.

Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 4:07 PM

Liam you may not have beaten my score but you definitely have a cooler avatar. So when's the Snooker WP???

Diva305  (Level: 152.6 - Posts: 1655)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 4:23 PM


Another one bites the dust.

TWO things happened to me (I won't go there), and I almost quit myself; that's why I don't post any more.

Just saying.......


Oldcougar  (Level: 228.1 - Posts: 1935)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 5:04 PM

It was a difficult puzzle but then not my area of expertise & I did encounter 1 spelling error (not too long ago) but I've made those too Roby, perhaps you were unaware that you are supposed to fill in every letter in your own Word Puzzle, you're not the only one to have made that mistake A for effort & do try again Rowlanda, turn the fan on, sweetie, that sultry Ontario weather is getting to you

Keithr81052  (Level: 150.3 - Posts: 147)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 5:14 PM

while I didn't do particularly well on this puzzle it was as good or better, no more difficult or obscure than a lot that have been on here lately so why all the complaints?

Maurlin  (Level: 220.5 - Posts: 2707)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 5:41 PM guys are wusses and mean! I've had to wade through dumb current music, TV and movie WPs. I finally got one I really enjoyed. As an American football (the real kind) fan, I even anticipated correctly some of the players in each category. I was going to send Roby19 a congrats on a very enjoyable WP, but apparently he has been chased away by the previous comments and now "This user does not have a public profile available."

Debbie1957  (Level: 45.7 - Posts: 402)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:03 PM

With puzzles I know little about I come away with learning more. Enjoyed the puzzle, not always easy but fun doing.


Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:16 PM

This is not a schoolyard with the popular people on one side and the unpopular on the other and bullies kicking dirt in people's faces. There is no doubt that if you put yourself out there you are setting yourself up to be criticized - but I also don't think we should make assumptions about how a person wrote a word puzzle - I think quite a few of us have done puzzles here now - I've had my share of reaming and criticism - and there was definitely a time that my feelings got hurt because assumptions were made that were simply not true. I made a post and got a pm from a person that felt I was responding to them while defending a puzzle - and it's not what I would call an apology or even an acknowledgement of what I had said - but at least I was aware they read it, and hopefully thought about it a bit more...I have to just let go of the idea that I have to force people to "believe" the facts as opposed to interpreting them in their own way and running with them -- I'm now good with that.

I enjoyed a couple of these because I knew them - several of them I just plugged in letters, so I did that with enough of them to see that Roby's score would have been lower if all letters had been plugged in...but maybe that was not understood - and I would think that EVERYONE understands you don't "rush" a word puzzle (I don't and I still made an error in yesterdays - it's not as easy as it looks boys)

I clicked and see the profile is no longer there - and I think that is a shame.

Bbear  (Level: 166.9 - Posts: 2297)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:21 PM

Kaelin: As a person that has (totally not on purpose) hurt your feelings, I know exactly what you are talking about. We need to play nice. I have one coming out tomorrow day that is the only one I have done that I am frankly worried about the reaction. It's neat but really hard and I hope people play it for what it is....a game.

Editors: is there a way to get a hold of him and tell him 95% of the comments have been positive and there are just people that had a bad day????

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:29 PM

I would just like to point out that I had nothing to do with it.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:48 PM

Bbear - thanks - but I do want to point out - you are not who I was referring to -

Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5407)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 6:48 PM

We were channeling you as we commented - so it IS all your fault.

Garrybl  (Level: 291.5 - Posts: 6769)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:01 PM

Since I started the comments I hope it did not seem that I was using unduly emotive language. I also hope that my moderate performance was not what drove my commments; I've loved some quizzes i did badly on and hated some I did well on. I never got involved in 'people taking their own quizzes' issue --and sploofus would have fixed that anyway judging by past form.

And anyone is allowed to misjudge the difficulty of their quiz; I thought it ridiculously hard but maybe I should have googled better? Equally though I hated the structure of each question I know some people like them like this. Horses for courses i guess.

What DOES upset me, is the typos. Its one of the perks of the platinum membership to write WPs. If we accept that editors are not fact-checkers on WPs (I think they SHOULD be but that's just me), it is truly unacceptable for a writer to use as his excuse that he rushed through the puzzle.

Lets differentiate between a regular quiz. if you make a mistake in that you have less than 100 takers over the quiz life, maybe, and you get to correct it ASAP.... I hope. Few people get hurt.

But WPs are a different animal; you have a duty of care to the membership -- some of whom like me pay gold membership primarily because of the WPs. Everyone answers at about the same time. Mistakes matter. Any time you make a factual or spelling error in one quiz that's one too many. And if you make a series of them in successive WPs then maybe you should consider not writing them at all if you can't get the details right -- or at any rate taking a lot longer time on fact checking?

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:19 PM

Your right Gary - and since my last two had errors - I'll abstain for awhile -- although I take great care and never rush through writing - obviously I need new glasses to have missed the "i's" that were missing in the last too...I think we do have a responsibility in error checking....

I noted a spelling error in a one a couple of days ago and had taken it really late - and noted that it was never indicated on the board -- which I found interesting -- don't know how to make a raised eyebrow here - but you all may assume.

Maurlin  (Level: 220.5 - Posts: 2707)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:26 PM

Barry- Your post addressed that and I guess it served its purpose, since it appears that Roby17 will write no more WPs...or anything else, for that matter.

After reading all of the attacking posts (and they WERE attacking) I had to log off for a while. I can't even work up a desire to write any more regular quizzes (although I think that will probably pass) but I am concerned and upset at how at any given moment any player can be set upon on what should be a fun, enjoyable, relaxing and satisfying site. I'm bummed!

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:42 PM

I read this thread, and I'm so mad now by the tone of this thread, no Sploofing tonight for me. (Maulin, maybe you and I need to sit in the cooling off lounge of the island.)

And, just for the record, I had a misspelled word in my last WP and it was not a misspelling originated by me. Apparently, the Sploof spell checker "corrected" a proper noun thinking it was a country and not a movie studio after I had submitted it. I'm not throwing the editor or their process under the bus. It normally works well. So, before anyone throws another WP author under the bus and rolls over them with a Mac truck, let me just say you may not be privy to all the facts.

Oldcougar  (Level: 228.1 - Posts: 1935)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:49 PM

A lot of the problems with spelling errors occur on the proper names, which this quiz was full of. Because you must submit them in lower case, your whole puzzle is lit up by spell check. I know that caused me problems, in the past, back then I also thought the editors checked for spelling I noticed the spelling error a couple of days ago, too, which no one posted & I did that puzzle quite late. Surprised I caught it, being one of the sites worst spellers, no matter, I understand how easy it is to do. Factual errors bug me more. We've had puzzles like this before & I really used a lot of time but I won't criticize a puzzle based solely on the fact that I don't enjoy the subject or know the information. I hope they contact Roby & get him back. We need to get a firm posting on the number of letters used by puzzle authors when doing own quizzes. Originally they said fill in every one, then a editor posted fill in 50, then another back to every one. I personally fill in all the letters, which puts you firmly at the bottom, but no loss of points. Peace

Ryback  (Level: 162.8 - Posts: 279)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:51 PM


Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 7:56 PM

Not sure you MUST submit in lower case, but that's how they come out. It just seems sensible to me, knowing how the puzzles get critiqued, that if I'm making a puzzle entirely out of names, I'd better check every single one, no matter how well I think I know them. I spelled Dick Cheney with an extra Y for five years before someone reamed me for it on a messageboard. And if you're going to rush through a puzzle that everyone's going to do and not check spelling, maybe it's best not to get all thin-skinned and defensive about it if people complain about your mistakes. Man up.

Tresgatos  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 4413)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 8:09 PM

I enjoyed Roby's WP even though I know little about football. I recognized most of the names and googled for assistance.

Since Platinum members have been allowed to write WPs, Roby has given us, in addition to today's puzzle:

Have people forgotten about these? I especially enjoyed Top TV Moments.

I considered Roby a valued member of the WP authoring team. Now he's gone, and that saddens me greatly. I'm with Maurlin and Pepperdoc on this.

And I totally disagree with the idea that WPs have to be perfect and that one factual or spelling error is "one too many." Nobody is getting paid big bucks to write these WPs. It's a HOBBY. I've run into plenty of both types of errors in the short time I've been here. I just submit a support ticket and move on. They don't diminish my enjoyment of the WPs, I don't blame anyone for them, I don't care if it affects my score. It's just a puzzle.

Everyone writing these WPs is doing the best they can. Some of us spend hours and hours on them, but yes, sometimes mistakes happen. Mistakes are a part of life. These are puzzles we're talking about at a trivia site run by volunteers. We're not talking about life-and-death errors here. It's spelling. That's not to say spelling doesn't matter; it does. And I do care about spelling in the stuff I write and in a competitive workplace environment where people are being *paid* not to make errors. Sure, ideally, it would be nice if nothing at Sploofus had errors in them. But people are human, and in this hobbyist environment that's supposed to be fun, I am going to be patient, forgiving and as helpful as possible if I find an error rather than trash someone.

I'm like Clark Kent, pretty mild-mannered. You have to get me pretty riled up before I go into a rant. Again, I'm deeply saddened by Roby's departure. I hope he'll return.

-- Geri

Luvnmexsun  (Level: 147.4 - Posts: 711)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 8:10 PM

There are two different issues here. If only the spelling errors were the issue, it would probably not be so inflammatory.

To me, attacking an author because of the subject matter is just plain wrong. Insulting that person's integrity is worse. Not many men nor women are going to accept their honesty being questioned. There are REAL cheaters on this site, and culled as appropriate.

What an ugly way to treat another player. Roby is due sincere apologies.


Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 8:17 PM

Why can't we be critical of a puzzle? If you like it, say so. If you don't, say so. Some of the comments make me gag. If you ARE thin skinned then don't write the damn things. Oh, by the way, I thought Jake Scott was a defensive lineman. Not too many 295 pounders in the secondary. OOPS, maybe I shouldn't say things like that. I guess that's why I don't write puzzles....I'm so sensitive.
Onward & Upwards

Mplaw51  (Level: 184.4 - Posts: 1581)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 8:24 PM

I don't think I would take it well if I received this sort of harsh criticism. It's not a feel good thing to be zinged from everywhere.

Admittedly, I bailed on this, I felt it was just too obscure for me. I have strong football knowledge but not good enough for this puzzle. This WP would have received no comment from me rather than a negative one. Numbers of comments after a WP are telling things themselves, aren't they?

Too sad that we lost Roby, hopefully he'll think it over and realize it doesn't matter because, "you can't please all the people all the time".

Tresgatos  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 4413)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 8:24 PM

Ditto what Sun said.

Flcyclist  (Level: 131.1 - Posts: 691)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 9:04 PM

When I posted my comment saying it was a totally awful puzzle for me, I wasn't meaning to attack the author and I hope he didn't take it as a criticism. I just don't happen to care for this type of puzzle - just names, which I knew none of. I'm sorry he quit and I'm sorry for all the really bad comments that were directed at him. I wish he were still here to read this.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 9:24 PM

I definitely struggled with part of the puzzle - but some I did not and were easily recognizable for me - there must be something in the water all over though I swear - I don't know if it's the state of the world right now - people struggling with rising prices - but all over - not just on sploofus (here in my little town too - last week was probably one of the worst of my life in terms of dealing with some people that should NEVER be an issue) - tempers are flaring - and it seems to be in hindsight - something that should not have escalated to what it did.

I've still never bailed on a puzzle - and only 1 quiz ever - and I was just to tired to deal with it after I started it - I think all puzzle writers are going to be prepared for people that don't like it - we hear from what about 10-15 out of the 300 that take it? I had my first "bailed" yesterday in a PM that was very nice - and I was very sorry that the player felt the struggle - I was hoping for something a bit more challenging because of how many gripes I got about "5's" - there is an attempt to please the vocal players and it just can't always be done.

This is supposed to be a site for fun and for "sanity breaks" at least that is how I view it - and the criticism on this puzzle escalated beyond the norm in my opinion. It's still a shame that response to the puzzle caused a valued player to quit - I hope that Roby reconsiders and the membership can be reinstated -

Sploofus Editor
Sploofabulous (Editor)  
Mon, 11th Aug '08 9:45 PM

I'm sorry to be chiming in so late on this thread. I just got home from work, and imagine my surprise at finding this thread and Roby19's messages to my PM box. If it makes you feel better, he asked us to take his points back from not just this puzzle, but all of those that he had written.

It's probably too late to take the heat for the misspellings in this WP since Roby19 has quit. I am usually quite thorough in checking spellings in WPs because I know how important it is and how strongly Sploofusers feel about doing well on the WPs and the points and standings that they earn.

In this case, I made the mistake of not checking the spellings of the names carefully because I assumed that a football fan would know these names intimately. I certainly am not familiar with this subject and did not spot the misspellings, although I did a Google search on the names that looked especially odd to me. As a player, I would have plugged and chugged until all of the letters were filled in.

I can't fix things now, but I do offer my apologies to all who were adversely affected by the misspellings. As far as the subject matter goes, I thought that there would be a lot of Sploofusers who would enjoy it even though it is completely foreign to any of us who have opted out of the Sports category in our TQOTDs.

So, I commit now to protecting my Platipuzzle contributors from criticisms of this sort in the future. I have always made suggestions to my WP contributors if I felt that a particular phrase was vastly harder or easier than the other 10. I'm generally a fanatic about spelling and try not to miss much. I hope that those of you who enjoy writing WPs don't hesitate to contribute in the future.

Koota  (Level: 187.3 - Posts: 2114)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:05 PM

I'm just wondering if those of you who are bellyaching the most have written any WPs?

That's right. I'm throwing down the gauntlet.

Bbear  (Level: 166.9 - Posts: 2297)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:23 PM

I have. I try really hard to make ones that folks will enjoy, that are not really googable and are fun.

Sploofabulous...don't feel bad.

But...if anyone knows him, please tell him to come back!

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Mon, 11th Aug '08 10:50 PM

It looks to me like there were three types of complaints people had about this puzzle. Let's take a look at them.

1: The subject matter. A lot of you aren't very familiar with it. To exacerbate matters, the puzzle consisted of proper names, many of which are unusual. If you don't know football players, they might as well have been from Wales. A lot of you took many guesses and lost lots of points. Frustrating as all heck, I know.

Fine. That doesn't make it a bad puzzle. That makes it a puzzle that wasn't good or fun FOR YOU. That's unfortunate, but that's also not the point. You have probably already gotten to do another one since then. The pain lasted what? 12 hours? Meanwhile, even if it wasn't your cup of tea, the author wrote a puzzle on a subject he loved. That's one of the privileges he got when he paid for Platinum membership. You don't like it? Fine. But don't blame him. Plus, if you know nothing of football, you're not in any position to judge the quality of the puzzle. Find a fan or two and ask them whether or not it was any good.

2: The spelling errors. We all hate them. We all hate when they affect somebody's score, and the editing staff as a whole dreads when one gets through any of us. And when they happen ... sometimes they're the author's fault, sometimes the editor's, sometimes more than one editor is responsible, sometime system bugs didn't accept a change, sometimes all of these. BUT, none of these people want the spelling error to happen. DO NOT THINK THEY DID IT TO ANNOY YOU! Deal with it the same way you would a poor sporting official's call, and just move along.

3: The author did too well on his own puzzle. He probably never dreamed that you all would have had the difficulties you did. A miscalculation perhaps, but how many points would his bumping you down one spot on the leaderboard have cost you? Probably for most of you, the answer is a single digit. So you're crucifying the guy for costing you 3 Sploofus points! Did that hurt so much? Sheesh, submit a Support Ticket, and we can give you 3 lousy points. Better yet, handle the affair in private. Drop him a PM. Or submit a Ticket and let the Editors deal with it. We can contact the author. If needed, we can reset his puzzle so that he vanishes from the leaderboard and doesn't get bonus points. Without all the torches, pitchforks and venom.


So now you've driven the guy off. We're seeing if we can do anything to get him back. Because, believe it or not, to us every Sploofuser is important. Every paying member is important for the livelihood of the site. And most important of all is the camaraderie of this Island.

One day there will be another puzzle that strikes you the way this one struck its worst critics. And given my vast experience, I hope you will take my advice on how best to tell the author that you didn't enjoy it.

"Thank you for writing that Puzzle."

Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:17 PM

Well said,indeed. Bravo! (or Brava! as the case may be.)

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:31 PM

There's another issue I was very unhappy about....that you didn't address at all....
and which probably was the BIGGEST issue for me. As I said, this quiz was
just the last straw....
We have had SO MANY Puzzles lately on Sports and Pop Music. I am not
usually so critical about the choices of the Authors, and just pick my way
through the alphabet until I "get it" Is there not some way that the EDITORS
can disperse WPs on the same topic, so they are not so repetitive in content
and especially ones as "special interest" as Sports. In every other area of
Sploofus, there is choice of topic. Surely diversity of topics is the essence of
the Word Puzzles - which every member takes....all over the World.

I seem to remember many "heated" discussions on the topic of "Cheating"
(if one Googles) and accusations of cheating if a member got the Puzzle
in 5 moves....and nobody left because of them....
I considered the three reasons I thought Roby19 was cheating, before I wrote
my responses -and I haven't changed my mind. If you remember he said he
had left another site because someone said something negative to him....
I do hope he finds whatever he's looking for....

Koota  (Level: 187.3 - Posts: 2114)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:46 PM

I'm looking forward to your WP on a different subject, Rowlanda.

Keithr81052  (Level: 150.3 - Posts: 147)
Mon, 11th Aug '08 11:50 PM

I'll be looking for wps from the ones who criticized this wp so I can repay them with some of the harshness they afforded this wp

Sploofus Editor
Sploofishy (Editor)  
Tue, 12th Aug '08 12:28 AM

If we were receiving a large number of word puzzles from Platinum members, then we might be able to coordinate topics, spreading similar themes farther apart. Currently, however, we usually just have a few days supply on hand, so we have to run what we get.

And sadly, many who wrote a puzzle or two have been scared off from doing more. As I have stated in many threads, writing word puzzles is a learning process for all authors and any player who is gutsy enough to stick their neck out there by writing one should really be cut a huge amount of slack from the players. Constructive criticism is helpful, but being mindful of the Golden Rule is paramount. Before every critical post it would be much better for all concerned if the commenter asked themselves "if I had written this word puzzle or quiz, would I find this response helpful?" And if the answer is no, or even maybe, then what purpose does it serve? If it is just to vent anger or frustration, please just buy a punching bag or something. At least you'll be getting some exercise.

We started allowing Platinum players to write Word Puzzles as a reward to those who have made a financial commitment to helping keep Sploofus afloat. And, of course, we hoped it might encourage others to upgrade. But if it is having the opposite effect, then we will have to suspend or end it.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:06 AM


If there are misspelled words or typos, are they always the mistake of the author, or do words sometimes get mixed up in transfer to your WP template?

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:20 AM

This Sucks.

We have someone leaving over total BS. If you don't care for the topic...HELLO don't take the friggin WP. For you ULTRA competitive folks who feel the need to take every WP even though you no nothing about the subject just to get more points..HELLO can't take them with you. I DON'T enjoy foreign sports, religion or a multitude of other topics, so when I see them...I DON'T TAKE THEM. I really can't understand the logic AT ALL.

We all have typos, and I for one had mine corrected by my editor (even though he/she is really mean...that's a joke for those of you with no sense of humor). I tried that WP (because I don't take alot of them) because I love football, and it was EXACTLY what Roby intended. I loved it.

FYI, on my last WP I tried to tank it...and didn't do it. I asked to have my score removed. Those of us that have done WPs just like to see who did well on it. We really don't give a rat's ass about how we scored, but you can't see who did well without taking it. Calling someone a cheater for taking their own WP when they took the time to create a WP is just horrific.

Just a warning, when I do my next WP if some of you don't like it, I won't quit, I'll keep making ones you personally despise just to spite you.

Roby should come back and there are MANY "sorry"s to be said.



Crazy4games  (Level: 124.7 - Posts: 1019)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:21 AM

It was never my intention to insult Roby19's word puzzle in any way. It takes alot of guts to put yourself out there like that, and anyone who takes the time to compose a puzzle, certainly should not be slammed for his or her efforts.

It's just that I was under the impression that authors were to fill in all of the spaces of their own puzzles.
I certainly wasn't implying that he was cheating, and I am really sorry that he quit over this.

If you're reading this Roby, please accept my apologies.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofishy (Editor)  
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:23 AM

Personally, I do cut and paste, but it is possible that other editors do it a different fashion that might allow an error to creep in, although I am not of any who do it in any other way. The word puzzle template does not have a spell checker and the automatic spell checker that I have on Firefox for some reason will not work on that page either. I usually copy the completed word puzzle into a word file to double check it. Of course, that does not help with names.

Names can be very tricky as we have learned on numerous occasions. One in particular that I remember was the name of a certain Ninja Turtle. Turns out that both the players reporting the error and the word puzzle author were correct. The producers and the toy company had changed the way the name was spelled a few years back. Checking the internet can always be a bit of a gamble unless you can find some official site, which I did once on the name of a Russian boxer. Of course, all the sports magazines disagreed with how he wanted to spell his name in English, so many word puzzlers were upset with me.

All in all, it's an imperfect system, but it's the only one we have.

Tresgatos  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 4413)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:39 AM

Sploofishy wrote: "We started allowing Platinum players to write Word Puzzles as a reward to those who have made a financial commitment to helping keep Sploofus afloat. And, of course, we hoped it might encourage others to upgrade. But if it is having the opposite effect, then we will have to suspend or end it."

I feared something like this would be said. Not only have I enjoyed writing WPs myself, but it's been a great pleasure to take the WPs written by other Platinum members. As I've said before, I've enjoyed the variety. And from my perspective, we've had plenty of it. Here have been the topics for the last six days of WPs:

Wordplay mixed with types of power/energy/fuel; Florida; Holland; books & authors; "Olympic Tearjerkers" -- (a very timely and interesting puzzle, IMO); a miscellany of world facts; "Definitions Learned in WR"; college football traditions (a unique and fascinating puzzle, IMO, that had as much to do with cultural rituals and silly things we humans think up as it had to with football); footwear and unusual people and places certain types of footwear have been worn; wordplay mixed with rock bands; a potpourri about "blah" (quite unique and fascinating, IMO); quartets of NFL football players.

Sure, we had three sports WPs in the last six days, but they were all different.

I've said this before too, but I think it bears repeating: I've really enjoyed the opportunity to get to know the other players a little better via their puzzles. Sometimes, a member will even write an interesting personal note as to what inspired them to write their puzzle.

I sincerely hope that the Platinum WP authoring program will continue.

-- Geri

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 1:48 AM

Chick and Gatos - Amen and amen!

Mrgraham  (Level: 1.0 - Posts: 1)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 2:36 AM

This is who used to be Roby19. I returned only to let you all know how deeply sorry I am that I cause you all this grief. To those of you who supported me, I wish to thank you sincerely and from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, returning to this site will be impossible for some of you think that I am a cheater. I DON'T LIE, CHEAT OR STEAL. And for anyone especially who doesn't know someone personally to even mention a comment like that it's inexcusable and unforgivable. And again I WILL NOT be returning to this site now nor ever.

I've have a had a lot going on in my life right now and I really don't need this ridicule. My mother died less than eight months ago. my life has been literally turned upside down. I just got back home after spending more than seven weeks in a hotel while my house was being remodeled. I've spent a small fortune replacing all the furniture, appliances, and other things to fix it up nicely. I would not have been able to renew my membership anyway because of this.

I'm writing to Sploofabulous to inform him/her that I wished that he/she would do something for all of you to make up for this. Bonus points, extra wager or showdown tokens, extended periods of time on your memberships or a combination of all of these to keep things in prespective. When I do other puzzles regardless of who writes them, I play them out. And I play them out quickly because my time is very limited since I now have to take care of everything myself. If I can't or don't take care of something it won't get done.

As a general rule, I averaged about 4000 points for the word puzzle, I average about 4 minutes to complete them. I usually rank medium to low and average in the 150s and again my best finish ever was 24th place. I hope that all of you who are platinum members will continue to do word puzzles. I'd hate to see everyone lose this privilege because of this. If my spellings were incorrect I also apologize for this. I was always taught to spell out a word the way it sounds. When I made yesterday's puzzle I was pressed for time because of all I've had to do recently.

Once again, for everyone who has supported me in this, I thank you with all my heart and soul and for those of you who complained, you should be ashamed of yourself. This is the third time someone has told me that I shouldn't write again. Well you got your wish. I'm no longer a part of this site and I will never rejoin. Again I returned only to thank most of you for your support. I agree with the editors on this, no matter who writes what or where they live, they write what they know and wishes to share with all of you. My knowledge is limited in this manner. I know about some things and I don't know about some things. But for those word puzzles I've taken of yours, I've learned quite a bit. However, I've NEVER once told anyone here that a puzzle you've written was bad, wrong etc. I asked this before somewhere else and I ask this again now, if I have never said anything bad to anyone about something they wrote, drew, thought up, etc. why is it OK that it is being done to me? What did I ever do to anyone to deserve this?

Once again, I'm writing the editor to inform him/her that he/she should consider giving everyone some bonus goodies to repay you for what has happened. I wish you all the very best of luck and I'm sorry but returning back to this site wouldn't be a good idea. Because some of you think that I'm a cheater and I'm not and I never will be one either.

The former Roby19

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 4:19 AM

I just went through five of the six Word Puzzles that I have submitted to all of you. As most of you know, I have a theme "Groups of Four" and it is kinda popular (thank you). After re-reading these puzzles, I noticed that I had at least seven or eight different topics for you to solve in all of these. I got blasted once for using a word that was in Wikepedia describing a flying squirrel and it was kinda Latin, my bad. I have an idea for a new theme for one of my "Groups of Four" puzzles where all the questions are basically the same category. I am sure that most of you will like what I'm going to do but I am going to be a little tricky, if I can. I will check with my editor to make sure they approve. I have a Puzzle coming up the 16th, this isn't the one. To the editor that wrote that there wasn't an abundance of Word Puzzles and players quit writing. I would've submitted all you want but I didn't want to monopolize the contest and I might get too predictable. Everybody ,"Have a Big Orange" and chill out.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Tue, 12th Aug '08 5:59 AM

Mark your calendar. Friday night we have another sports-themed puzzle that was submitted by a different member a few days ago. Please deal with it appropriately, including taking the night off if necessary.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:05 AM

I totally agree that Kaelin's WP was "unique and fascinating"
And Slickos Wp was also very interesting and fun to do.
The rest were either Sports or primarily US related, as far as
I didn't mention "music"....

If I were into public whining I would tell you all about the on-going
ordeal of my life for the past 14 months....but I'll just say again,
I come to Sploofus only for fun and to experience a variety of
interesting challenges - and I too have been enjoying the
Platipuzzles until recently. It would be very sad if they were to stop....

I do apologize to the members for my part in escalating the
"snarky" comments - and also that yet another Sploofuser has
chosen to leave!!!! It wasn't about points, it was about Integrity.
A "comedy of errors" if you like

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:27 AM

Rowlanda, my recent puzzle had nothing to do with sports or music--but my next one does-- bwahahahaha!

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:30 AM

At about 0300 there was a long post from the player formerly known as Roby (14?). It was quite touching. It had a player name Mr. Graham I believe. now it's gone 3 hrs later. Anyone else see it?

Francesann  (Level: 55.5 - Posts: 124)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:31 AM

I cannot believe all that I have just read!! I don't like all the word puzzles, mainly because I haven't a clue about the subject, particularly American sports. However, I still give them a try because I may learn things as I do them, also I am competitive and want to keep boosting my points. (the thread that mentioned footballers might just as well come from Wales, well that would be great for us over the pond - and give awareness as to how difficult some of the word puzzles are for us in UK).

But.......... to slag off the Word Puzzle author so publicly is out of order. Sploofus is after all just a site for those who like quizzes, I also like crosswords in The Times newspaper, but I don't throw my toys out of the pram if I don't like or understand the clues or answers. We mostly don't know each other, we are total strangers, what right do we have to insult each other. For God's sake it is just a game.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:46 AM

oh, I see the post from Mr. Graham above me. Oops.

Mplaw51  (Level: 184.4 - Posts: 1581)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:48 AM

Sorry to see you go Mr. Graham. Hope you'll be back some day.

Rowlanda, hate to say it but your remark about public whining was out of order. Roby/Mr. Graham was just trying to sincerely explain why this all got to be too much for him. Give the man a break. I get that we all have "stuff" and may not air it here but that was just cold.

Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:51 AM

Sandy--I still see it. It's still there. Go home and get some sleep. That's what happens when you sploof at work.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:53 AM

Look who's talking

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 6:54 AM

And "I" am at home btw

Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 7:02 AM

Well, I'm going right now.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 7:11 AM

Sometimes it feels like the vultures are circling here.......or like the chicks are being pecked to death.

Some have complained that Salty had become too boring and sweet. Sigh.....

I don't think it's ever even crossed my mind to check up on the score of the author of a WP. Why do you care?????????

Since authors don't get anything for their work, it wouldn't bother me if they each did their own puzzle in 5 just to make up for that and get some kind of incentive and reward.

I don't care what your topics are. If they interest me, I'll play them. If not, I'll go play something else. I'm just grateful that you plats are helping write WPs and that editors have a bit more time to process all those quizzes, KBs, trivia squares, and to read through these "interesting" posts and answer questions.

I wonder if the powers that be feel like we are mere out of control squabbling children, rather than the intelligent people we claim to be. All the IQ in the world can't replace just plain civility and common sense, nor can it justify the kind of silly squabbling seen here sometimes. I know some say they have a right to criticize. I dare say - why? What do you really gain by criticizing? Makes you feel better when your score is lower? Makes you feel like you are teaching somebody something?

Please rethink that position. Because I'm betting neither you feel better, nor is much real teaching going on. Just nitpicking. IMO.

Zeedee  (Level: 234.2 - Posts: 1088)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 7:24 AM

I was struck by Donleigh's comment, "As for taking you own WP, I always try to take it late in the day so I can see how many moves I need to take."

Donna, does that mean you have a way to see how others have done on the puzzle BEFORE you take it yourself?

Illiniamy  (Level: 105.4 - Posts: 67)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 10:00 AM

Personally, I think sports-themed puzzles are few and far between, so I sincerely appreciate any efforts to include them. I do concede though, that even being a sports-fanatic, this one was T-O-U-G-H. I can't imagine jumping to the conclusion that Roby was cheating though. As long as he'd been a member, doing something like that over a "hill of beans" amount of points?

It is sad that he has chosen to leave this site and I will miss his typically fun and creative contributions. However, he is *choosing* to do so. He was wronged, no doubt about it, but I think choosing to leave the site is either an overreaction or a very good idea if it's truly that upsetting to him.

As evidenced in this thread, there are plenty of people around here that support him. I'm ready to welcome him back with open arms if after a few days of "settling down", he is up to it.

Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5407)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 11:32 AM

Zeedee, no I can't look up the leaderboard but my brother is also a member. He does the WP at work (while I am at home - no peeking!) during the day and will let me know how people are doing. I will probably start filling in all the letters in future but this way I talk to the dork every day, makes our mother happy.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 4:04 PM

To all the members who have continued with
the NEVERENDING criticism of the critics....
Please check your own "nit-picking" meters

Said critics all apologized in some form or other
Sorry if you think I'm "cold"
Couldn't be further from the truth.

And if you think I am just whining about the
"usual stuff" in my life - why don't you just PM
me instead of "assuming" things you
know nothing about????

Thanks for the useful suggestions Rev Dodd.
Pease the rest of you - take your own advice
and just "Let it go"

Bleepy  (Level: 147.2 - Posts: 624)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 4:43 PM

Uh........... It's a just a game, people. How could some of you be sooooooooo...hurtful over a puzzle? Come on - get a serious grip!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 4:59 PM

Best I know, no one has left Sploofus because of the critics of the critics.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 5:10 PM

So far....

Marrrk712  (Level: 30.9 - Posts: 1)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 5:15 PM

I was thinking of upgrading to gold. Hmmm, don't think so now.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 5:17 PM

What difference would this thread make on your decision to upgrade and have more access to games on Sploofus?

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 7:09 PM

I just renewed and got a shiny new avatar. Best on the planet.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 8:32 PM

I have to say that looks a lot like that snookerball's secret identity?

Pocahontas1951  (Level: 55.4 - Posts: 172)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 8:44 PM

This has saddened me enough to post. A while back posts were deleted for naughty words. I decided to read through the Legal Notice and Privacy Statement afterwards (having been a member for a few years and hadn't). Learned many things I hadn't been aware of, and had broke one of the rules inadvertently myself. Under "Use of services and communication services" I find points that bear reminding and wonder why the horrendous post wasn't deleted before the escalating SLANDER was felt by Roby19.
Here are a few that are listed.
# Material or statements which contain vulgar, obscene, or indecent statements or graphical images;

# Defamatory or abusive statements;

# Statements which threaten the person or property of others;

# Statements which are insulting, bigoted, hateful, racially offensive, disrespectful of any ethnic group, any religion or religious group, disrespectful of any nationality, nation, or region of origin, disrespectful of any gender or sexual orientation, or which endorse or advocate illegal or immoral activity;

# Statements or material which harasses, stalks, threatens or otherwise violates the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;

# Statements about any other subscriber or the employees of any subscriber;

# Statements about Sploofus or any employee of Sploofus;

# Material or statements which are inaccurate, misleading, or fraudulent. and that you will not:

That is all I have to say about it except I am very sorry that he was the one chased off.


Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 9:11 PM

Guess I can't post anymore now that I can't swear.


Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 12th Aug '08 9:47 PM

We can't make "statements" about sploofus?

huh. I guess we are ALL in violation of the rules.

Anonymous2008  (Level: 1.0 - Posts: 1)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 2:54 PM

roby19 is back or is he? I'm a friend of his who wishes to be left anonymous which is why I joined this site to address this to all of you. I've read each and every one of these posts, and although most of you are on his side and he did thank you all with sincerety, those of you who criticized this or him and accused him of cheating it is nothing short of unbelievable. I also read what he wrote here too. I'm not saying this because I am his friend but rather to verify this fact, he doesn't cheat and never has. He never cheated on a test in school. he has never cheated on his income taxes and he never cheats when it comes to any kind of game. He made a puzzle you didn't like, he was and still is sincerely sorry about that. Some of you didn't accept it because it costed you a few points.

From what I understand, roby19 was a member of this site for more than three years and most of that time he was what you call a platinum member. I also understand that he spent $79 last year to be a platinum member for a full year. I also understand that he had nearly 50 million points and was near level 59. And from he told me personally, he rarely if ever fared in the top 50 on a word puzzle, word round, or certain quizzes. I also saw what the editors of this site wrote about re-instating him back to where he was before. And so far he hasn't received one single email from any editor of this site to discuss with him about the possibility of re-instatement.

And most of you wanted to offer their apologies to Roby for what was said to him. The person or persons responsible for this travesity should be punished or penalized in some way. He emailed one of you and the response he got back was that this person who insulted him was having a bad day over the illness of someone this person knows. And although Roby understood he did explain that this was no excuse for such a comment. And since this incident happened, none of you members or editors alike has even made the attempt to find out Roby's email address so you can offer your apologies and at the same time try to re-instate him.

I can also verify this fact that Roby's spelling is not perfect but he can spell some pretty tough words. At the time he made this puzzle that caused so much trouble and he did explain this to you as well, his house had just been finished being remodeled, he was under a lot of stress to get some things organized and what he failed to also mention was that he also was preparing to take a two week vacation out of town. In fact this trip was the first trip out of state as well as out of town. He was rushed and he did make a lot of mistakes and over a few hundred points, some of you were trying to lynch him or have him tarred and feathered. He took the puzzle himself because from what I understand, NO MENTION of any kind was made to warn puzzle writers that they couldn't take the puzzles themselves. I understand he completed the puzzle in only 52 moves while some of you may have had twice as many. He left the site and he wasn't awarded any points of any kind.

He gave the editor known as "Sploofabulous" his email address and again he hasn't heard from this editor or any of you. If you are really sincere about Roby's returning to this site and if you wish to offer apologies or to the editors wish to have Roby's points, standings and even his platinum membership renewed, you can email him at a special email address he has but rarely uses.

You can email him at again that email adress is

Keep in mind that if he does return to this site, it will be under a new name and also he has expressed this to me as his friend that if he does return, he will not take anymore quizzes of any kind, he will not author anymore quizzes of any kind, he will not sink another penny into this site for an upgraded membership unless the responses he gets are genuine and sincere from both members and editors alike.

None of you has made any kind of effort since this started, I've given you the means to contact him, now it's your turn. One bad comment from anybody on this site, just one and he will be gone for good. When he wrote what he wrote he was furious and he does write like that when he is angry but he had every right to be. I implore this one fact again ROBY IS NOT A CHEATER, and anyone who says that he is will have to answer to me, I thank you for your time.

Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 3:14 PM

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 3:32 PM

I know that it has several times been clearly stated that if you take your own WP, you need to fill in all the letters.

I don't know Roby19 and did not take his WP. I'm sorry he's gone, but I, for one, don't appreciate being threatened into apologizing to him. I would be furious if anyone wrote such a post on my behalf.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 3:35 PM

User already went bye bye.


Papajensai  (Level: 201.5 - Posts: 1024)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 4:09 PM

It's seems obvious that he wrote it himself.

I was disgusted by the treatment he received, and sorry that he left. Now he seems to be enjoying his righteous indignation a little too much, and looking a bit ridiculous with his dramatic reappearance, shrill threats and demands, and dire warnings. Now that he's stomped away, it's hard to rev up the sympathy again.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 4:10 PM

"A Friend" could have just said "Bump"

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 4:39 PM

Very well put.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 5:39 PM

My friends usually say "Shut Up Kelly".



Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5407)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 5:53 PM

Shhh, maybe he's a mail carrier.

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