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caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Sun, 24th Aug '08 9:00 PM

IN DEFENSXE OF KERBLUNK AUTHORS.

I know Kerblunks are not as wordy and full of information as an EA or a Community quiz. But there is something to be said in favor of brevity. Remember back when Ceasar was a pup to my scholl days that when the teacher said to write something in as few words as possible it often proved more difficult than an essay-time and thought goes into these just as it did FITB (don't see the need for a differece as the option of selling them is no longer open) or the outcry when they were done away with would not have been so loud. Realize Justin is attempting to appeal to more sophisted audience but takes all kinda and interests to pay the bills. I for one although never written any like them and ,Yes, I even liked the true or false. The less "Bg Brother'" looks over one's shoulder the more fun can be had here-Linda

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.0 - Posts: 2301)
Mon, 25th Aug '08 9:41 PM

Personally, I don't play them and don't write them. I personally think they are, as a group, nobrainers. However, to each his/her own and good for those that enjoy them.

Just me

lbh58
Lbh58  (Level: 40.0 - Posts: 161)
Mon, 25th Aug '08 10:03 PM

Excuse me miss, I saw your name on the list of players for The 23rd Psalm kerblunk.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 25th Aug '08 10:16 PM

Everyone knows that you feel better after a healthy Kerblunk!

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Mon, 25th Aug '08 10:23 PM

I like them for the speed factor, much in the same way I like WR/WM...keeps the brain moving...

Me.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6639)
Mon, 25th Aug '08 11:22 PM

I enjoy them as a palate cleanser --and they are also fun to write with a few minutes to spare unlike regular quizzes, which take an hour or two to do well at the very least.

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.2 - Posts: 5484)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 8:27 AM

I like them too...My ratings for the Kerblunks are higher than for my regular quizzes and I have a whole lot more people taking them now also...Maybe for those who claim not to take them (but actually do) they are their guilty pleasure....To each his own...
Vickie

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 9:28 AM

ust call me "brainless"-trust me that I have been called much worse-Linda

lbh58
Lbh58  (Level: 40.0 - Posts: 161)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 4:14 PM

yep, to each his/her own


toledosugar
Toledosugar  (Level: 51.4 - Posts: 281)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 4:46 PM

I write them and I take them. Their good when I don't have a lot time to play, especially if I have supper almost ready. However, that said, I don't rate them as highly as I do quizzes. The hardest part of writing a Kerblunk is finding four wrong answers that fit the question. Quizzes take much more time to write and deserve the higher rating and that's just one old lady's opinion.
Sharyn

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 5:18 PM

This lady disagrees with that opinion. Kerblunks are not quizzes, and it's unfair to judge them against quizzes. The rating should be for the relative quality of the Kerblunk, judged against other Kerblunks. Rating them lower because they're not quizzes just doesn't make sense to me. It unfairly lowers an author's overall average rating, thus penaling them for writing Kerblunks. Very discouraging.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 7:57 PM

yup!!!

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 8:24 PM

But being more narrowly defined than Trivia Quizzes, Kerblunks are harder to rate and differentiate from one another. What makes for a good one? Or a bad one? I'd like to hear the opinions of those who have them.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 8:44 PM

My feeling is if I really like them it is an automatic 9 plus try to tell the author that I liked them very much. Don't believe I have ever rated anything Kerblunk or quiz lower than a 7. With comments showing up now along with the quizzes try to avoid negative comments. (since no easy way to find a player other that long directory thing now-don't send them comments that way either). Like I said have never written a Kerblunk or a FITB or a true/false quiz but have found many of all of them very enjoyable. Come to think of it haven't written anything for some time now. Some people like myself tend to rate high perhaps in my case because typing anything is an effort while othes rate consistently low. Ratings are at best subjective and even though folks vehemtly deny it low scores bring low ratings in many cases- There-I've managed to write an entire paragraph and made nothing clearer than it was before-Linda

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 10:16 PM

Okay, Ken, here goes! Some of it for me is in what's being blunked. A series of books by a favorite author will rate higher than a list of sitcoms. Other things being equal, lines from Shakespeare will rate higher than say, David Spade movie quotes. Song titles from Broadway musicals rate higher than another round of 80s hair band tunes. That's an exaggeration to make the point because I'd likely never take the second of any of those pairs.

I always start at 9, quiz or Kb, but at least a point of rating is in play for my personal appreciation of the subject and the selections therefrom. Another couple points are dependant on a number of factors: a clever title is a plus, a boring one is not; I'm highly visual so a great picture makes a great first impression for me; whether the author has bothered with more than a cursory description, which tells me if this is something the author cares about, or just something cranked out for easy points; points come off if there's a wrong "right" answer or more than one answer that could be considered right (especially if I pick the wrong one); if the answer choices are just misspelled versions of the right answer, like, say, Mark Twain/Train/Twine/Twane/Twian, or god forbid, John Denver/Menver/Tenver/Benver/Senver, you get a 6, and if you're writing stuff like that, STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW, I SAY!

When I write one, I spend quite a bit of time on answer choices, maybe let one simmer on the back burner for a few days until the right choices come to me. I try for slyly humorous references to the question or the topic, while still staying on the legal side of the silliness line. If you do know the right answer, some of the wrong ones will be funny (I hope), but if you don't know it they all seem reasonable. Some of the wrong ones may also nudge you in the right direction without giving it away. In every game I hope there's something to make you chuckle or think, and that's what I look for in a first rate kerblunk. If just any old words are stuck in there, it shows, and it costs. Still, I can't remember ever scoring lower than a 6 - few and far between, and I believe, fully justified.

It's a very confining discipline, sort of a haiku or a sonnet to a quiz's epic poem, if you will. They can have a lot of subtlety and humor, and for those qualities I score all the way up. I know they're supposed to be a mad dash to the finish, but if they trip me up with a smile or two, all the better.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 7:48 AM

Have to say this in all honesty too. If I "know" the person and like them that factors into the thing too-know this like my score is not supposed to be a factor but sine I am human it does. Lots of the Kerblunks are on music which I SUCK at so don't take them at all. IT I start one-holds true with quizzes too-and find it filled with dates and numbers which I abhor I simply quit after a few questions. Wish there was a way to rate the daily questions as these things seem to be appearing more and more here-other than possibly a date in the "Historical Events" or whatever that category is called believe all others not fair-Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 9:39 AM

By saying I "know" the person I mean a person who is consistently KIND. a couple of folks her I would not take anything they have written as they go the way the wind blows--neither will I post to a thread they have started EVER again-brutal honesty like Felix has is one thing -telling an outright lie is another. I am old but not mentally imbalanced nor do I believe unhealthy in my posts or messaging- Yes, I do ave feelings too and they get bruised! Some long-time players are truthful but kind-oothers not!! Linda

embee
Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:09 AM

Linda, I keep reading through this thread and I can't for the life of me figure out what's gotten you so upset.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:37 AM

long memory I guess for cruel words spoken flipantly for the fun of it it seems-nice to be popular at anyone's expense-I'm okay just know who to avoid-thanks-Linda

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:45 AM

Long memories for hurt feelings can be a curse all its own.

But quick! where are your glasses and car keys? That's where we need to focus our few remaining memory cells at our age, cupcake.



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:52 AM

lol

flcyclist
Flcyclist  (Level: 124.0 - Posts: 691)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:54 AM

I like kerblunks and have written a very few of them. Like one other said, it is hard to come up with four wrong answers. But it is equally hard to come up with four wrong answers for a regular quiz. Actually I find the trivia squares easiest to create, because I add pictures to each clue and they are easy to do. But also I find the trivia squares harder to take than the others, even when people add pictures and not everyone does.

embee
Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:55 AM

I find drinking helps. With the hurt feelings, that is...denfinitely not helpful with the keys and glasses.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 12:18 PM

Embee, that's a good thought-old enough now don't have to wait until late afternoon like I ever cared lol Linda


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