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artcr1715
Artcr1715  (Level: 100.1 - Posts: 165)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 9:39 PM

MLB HISTORY MAKING DECISION--INVOLVES CUBS

Major League Baseball is going to start using instant replay to make calls. The first game ever to have the possibility of an instant replay call is the game between the Cubs and the Phillies at Wrigley Field on Thursday at 7 central time. It is going to be limited to home run calls. I hope it works. Either way-----------CUBS WIN CUBS WIN CUBS WIN!!!

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Tue, 26th Aug '08 11:17 PM

I'm on the fence on the instant replay...we'll have to see how it works out...

CUBS WIN!!

Me.

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 5:26 AM

Kelly, There should be no replay in any sport, especially baseball. Umpires and referees are paid big money to do their jobs,
let'em earn it. NFL referees don't have to do there jobs, just let the replay booth do it, BS. You've been around the Cubs long enough to know how many different ways umpires have screwed the Cubs, why give them another. One last thought, how many of those trophies the Bulls won would be there if there was a replay system, one or two. EverYone drools over Michael Jordan, a replay machine would've cut his game almost in half, "HE CHEATED".

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 181.2 - Posts: 1581)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 6:21 AM

How many times in a game do you need instant replay for a homerun that's close to the foul pole? Lots of foul balls but not too many causes for wonder. I like it in football, there's a challenge, if you're wrong you lose a timeout. Consequences...how will it work in baseball? Sure you'd love to have the ump watch that play at second or home plate but baseball would be changed if instant replay crept in. Sometimes it's all about the bang bang play and that ump better be in position. It's his job. It's also what we talk about isn't? It just doesn't work for me in baseball.

Bill, tell us how you really feel about Jordan....

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 260.3 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 6:45 AM

Will it cause more calls to be gotten right? CHECK
Will its implementation detract from the quality and flow of the game? UNLIKELY

What's the problem?

snookerballs
Snookerballs  (Level: 37.9 - Posts: 35)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 10:49 AM

Maureen, After watching Jordan play over 13 years and close to 1,000 televised games, I will say he was a great player. But as a referee for CYO games , I can tell you that he had a special set of rules for himself which gave him a super advantage. He was known for his game winning shots (very heroic), but if anyone got near him a whistle would blow/ free throws/ game over /
Bulls win/ Mikey did it again. Both times the Bulls played the Knicks in the finals, the Knicks should've won. The Jazz got screwed the first time they played them for the championship, some say two times. I honestly feel the Bulls earned two titles, the rest, the referees did help out. Michael Jordan was the biggest marketing tool any sport has ever had, including Mr. Woods.
I can't wait until the truth comes out about his retirement to baseball comes out. Isn't there an NBA referee going to jail for cheating . I am not a gambler, but I do know odds and point spreads and how they are made. For years, the Bulls were on the spot with the point spread or very close. Sometimes people wondered why Jordan was still in the game when the Bulls were winning by a bunch of points, HMMMMMMMMMM.

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 10:57 AM

Ken, do you think they will use it for stuff like check swings and hit batsmen ???

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 5:02 PM

Bill...I'm going to pretend that you were kidding when you posted the BS about Jordan.

Onto baseball, from what I understand it will be used for fair/foul calls and HRs (fair/foul and fan interference) only. The call is on the crew to used the instant replay, not the players/coaches. IMO, this seems fair. In order to get the game called right I see no reason why the instant replay shouldn't be used in those instances.

As an ex-fb official, while I agree the officials are getting paid to do their job right, no human being is perfect. In HS football, you have 5 officials out there trying to watch 22 players on a 120 yard field. It's damn near impossible to get every call/non-call right. I remember getting beat down the sideline once by a WR and his defender. I'm running behind the two, I DISTINCTLY saw the WRs head snap to the right really hard, but I couldn't see the defenders hand in his face mask, so I couldn't make the call. We call what we see, and it's impossible to see everything all the time.

If a couple of IRs help get the game called right I don't see the harm. But again, I'll have to see it. It has really helped out the bad calls in FB.

Me.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 181.2 - Posts: 1581)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 8:11 PM

Actually I thought Bill was pretty well thought out about Mike. It could be true, lots of betting going on. Refs might influence it.

I'll still hold off on baseball instant replay until I learn the circumstance surrounding its use. It can't just be the four umps scratching their heads and it can't be the manager screaming in your face either. Some darn good rules better be in place. Foul/Fair balls will be a pretty limited use. Entire games can go by without its need. If so what's the point? Time will tell.


kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 260.3 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 27th Aug '08 11:06 PM

Of course if Jordan stole a series or two, it made up for the ones that Bonehead Pippen (the most overrated player in NBA history) threw away. But those may have been while Mike was playing baseball.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 181.2 - Posts: 1581)
Thu, 28th Aug '08 6:22 AM

Too true about Pippen, but we're getting away from baseball! I used to feel he was more overpaid than anyone because of his underperformance and his whining. I also freely admit to being a Knicks fan at the time. I can barely watch the NBA these days and certainly not the Knicks! College ball is more entertaining.

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Thu, 28th Aug '08 6:30 AM

Scottie did have a habit of disappearing during the last two minutes of the game. Like you said "Bonehead"., that one game against the Knicks with 1.8 seconds left and he refused to play. How about him pouting and carrying on for three years after Tony Kukoc got drafted, he didn't hide any racial problem there. Scottie's specialty was when all he had to do was sink a game winning free throw and he would toss a brick. Was $5,000,000.00 per year enough at the time ???

artcr1715
Artcr1715  (Level: 100.1 - Posts: 165)
Thu, 28th Aug '08 12:47 PM

Tonight is the first game with instant replay, we'll see how it goes. Cubs are on a roll. 5 straight wins. Woo Woo---- Cubs Win Cubs Win!!!

artcr1715
Artcr1715  (Level: 100.1 - Posts: 165)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 8:27 PM

Just got back from evacuating for Gustav. The Cubs lost five in a row but are still on top in their division. GO Cubs GO Cubs WIN WIN WIN !!!

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 8:29 PM

Damn...Chicago might have to evacuate because of Gustav...is this rain EVER gonna end?

Me.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 157.5 - Posts: 2476)
Thu, 4th Sep '08 10:02 PM

FOOTBALL SEASON STARTS TONIGHT!
Sorry, in Pittsburgh baseball season is over before it starts.


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