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Donleigh  (Level: 155.3 - Posts: 5410)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 1:45 AM


Is everybody down there ready for the weekend? Will you all be okay?
Hoping it takes a hard left back into the Gulf.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 4:01 AM

Donna, Did you know that in this beautiful country that over 55% of the population lives along ocean coastlines. I lived on the ocean for three years in the Navy and loved it, but all that water and nature can (and do) get very mean. Since before Katrina, my homeowners insurance has tripled and I live in the midwest. Both All State and State Farm told me the increases were because of hurricane damage.

Bigbird  (Level: 249.1 - Posts: 3337)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 6:16 AM

We just got a notice from our insurance company that the deductible on hurricane damage had increased to $23,000!! The deductible! And I live in NY. I would say that the insurance company is pretty safe.

Chyenn  (Level: 209.4 - Posts: 1332)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 7:29 AM

news report yesterday from Pensacola said that the home improvement stores were reporting increased sales of plywood...

the forecast is for this storm to reach a category 3 or higher in the warm waters of the Gulf. officials are urging everyone to stock a 72-hour supply of food, water and basic necessities for everyone in the family. shelters are being readied to open Monday or Tuesday as needed.

we are about 50 miles inland and i think we are as prepared as we can be.

today is the 3rd anniversary of Katrina. a report said that a few hundred people in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana were still living in those cramped FEMA trailers. that's horrible!

Caramel1  (Level: 135.0 - Posts: 21588)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 8:56 AM

Insurance agents lack a sense of humor. My house is really old although the previous owner pretty much gutted it and put in new everything. Because of its age the only one who will insure it is located in Ft. Lauderdale. My insurance premium comes out of my mortgage payment-skyrocketed after the hurricane series hit Central Fl. in 04. Read thhrough my policy and it states that any damage caused by wind or water not covered. Called the agency and asked them what the hell good was the policy as Florida is basically sun, wind, and water. He said "Well, if your house burns down we cover it." I replied, "Great if another hurricane damges it I'll torch the damn thing." There was a silence and then was told I shouldn't have said that-he was most likely correct. My mouth has gotten me in big trouble more than once-Linda

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 12:57 PM

Maybe shouldn't have said it, but I liked your quick wit! Some people just have no sense of humor!

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 2:35 PM

Just reading your comments about " people still living in FEMA trailers."
I really do wonder what happened to all the money - sent from AROUND
THE WORLD - to help the people in New Orleans....
In 2001 Money was also sent from people everywhere to help re. 911.
Who is responsible for accounting for all that money????
Must be in the milions/billions????

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 3:43 PM

Thank god this is happening during election season. Both sides will be falling over each other to make sure they look more responsible than the folks who presided over the Katrina disaster.

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Fri, 29th Aug '08 4:28 PM

There aren't many around here still in FEMA trailers. The ones that are still around are folks that have spent three horrible years fighting their insurance companies, The Road Home money, the state, the feds and anyone else you can think of. Sigh.

I will probably evacuate to Baton Rouge, although that doesn't look to good either.

I just don't know if I can do it again. Exhausted just thinking about it.

Pray for New Orleans. It really is a good city.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 10:10 AM

Some of my fondest childhood memories are from trips to New Orleans with my grandparents. Ahh, the food, Brennans, Antoines, Court of Two Sisters... A special city that deserves protection. Best of luck to you Bbear.

Taco24  (Level: 140.4 - Posts: 589)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 10:14 AM

Hi Bbear
Already heard that the Astodome will not be used this time. People will be diverted to Dallas and other inland cities. I am praying we can all avoid this nightmare. We are all so exhausted from this wave of storms.

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 11:20 AM

Taco - we have cleared off the porch, put the garbage cans up, etc, etc, etc ad nauseam. My biggest concern right now is looking at the damn traffic - it took as almost 9 hours for Katrina to get to Baton Rouge (normally about 1 1/4 hours).....

I'm over it.

Gypsylady  (Level: 148.2 - Posts: 6097)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 11:53 AM


I'm sorry you all are having to evacuate again. My prayers are with you and wish you the best! Hopefully, it won't be as bad as Katrina!


Mplaw51  (Level: 184.4 - Posts: 1581)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 1:16 PM

It's a little eerie that it's mimicking Kartrina, safety to you and yours, Beth/Bbear. The nation (and world) will be watching and praying that this time is not the same.

Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 5:02 PM

My fervent prayers for you all.
I have not experienced a hurricane, but I imagine it is kinda like the cyclones we get here.
I have been thru two cyclones, that are not supposed to occur on this part of the coast at all!

I have thought about you all and prayed for you ever since Katrina wrought its own kinda hell.

May God watch over you.


Domester  (Level: 98.6 - Posts: 59)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 6:14 PM

A definite prayer for the best possible outcome for all in Gustav's path.

That said, let's say the truth about insurance companies. They are businesses...thieves...who are out to maximize their bottom line, not help people. They only help people when they cannot figure a way out of it. When they are forced to pay out, trust that they will go back and work on creating loopholes and hidden clauses to prevent it from happening again. Think about how the system works. You pay and pay and pay, then if crap happens and you expect them to come to your rescue, hold on. First they will access things, look for ways not to pay, then at the end, give you only what they cannot avoid paying. Several of you have talked about restriction in policies. Then, after that is done, they raise you premium because you had the audacity to collect on your policy. You eventually pay back all of what you collected while still paying in your regular annual dues. Now all of this is bad, but it is made twice as bad because we are obligated by law to pay these crooks. Try getting caught driving without insurance. Try buying a house with forking over. You know the routine. They have us over a barrel at the sanction of our leaders in government. The bottom line is, mandatory insure should a non-profit industry without CEO and other execs raking in obscene salaries and bonuses.

Chyenn  (Level: 209.4 - Posts: 1332)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 6:28 PM

i wonder if Sen. Trent Lott had the same insurance woes when his beautiful Mississippi home was destroyed by Katrina?

Ladyvol  (Level: 212.2 - Posts: 5649)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 8:18 PM

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone along the Gulf Coast...and if there is anything I can do BBear or anyone else who lives along the coast please give me shout. I have an extra bedroom...

Chyenn  (Level: 209.4 - Posts: 1332)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 8:31 PM

i just read that this storm hit Cuba as a Category 4 with sustained winds of 150mph this afternoon.. storms with winds greater than 155mph are Category 5's -- the highest rating... Our Pensacola weatherman says it is still too early to tell where it will make landfall after churning in the Gulf for a couple of days.. alerts are out from Southern Texas to the panhandle of FL .. God bless us all!

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 9:43 PM

Well, plans were to go to friends in Baton Rouge, but Florida looks better and better. Anyone down there know of any hotel rooms available???


Scared to death

Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 9:55 PM

Bbear, just go! Pack up the car and head towards Alabama or Arkansas/Texas, whichever you may get to the easiest. I-10 is swamped already. Go now! Traffic will be much worse tomorrow. Greenville, AL would be a good place to head. It's about 60 miles your side of Montgomery. If you must take I-10, get off at the Highway 59/Gulf Shores Parkway/Bay Minette exit and hook a left towards Bay Minette. Follow the signs to 65. Greenville is a little over an hour (normal driving time) from there. Call ahead and see if there's room at either the Comfort Inn, Jameson Inn or Days Inn. Book a room now. Past that is Montgomery. Way past that (taking 85 in Montgomery) are Columbus and Atlanta in GA. You may even still be able to get a room in either Auburn or Opelika, Alabama, again -- way on down the road.

Important! Confirm a room now! As a veteran of many evacuations, I can tell you that finding a place to stay is next to impossible if you don't plan ahead. Should you get stranded along the way, the Comfort Inn in Greenville has been known to take in evacuees even when there are no rooms in which to house them -- depends on who is on the front desk at the time.

Don't fret. Don't procrastinate. Go!

Toledosugar  (Level: 51.4 - Posts: 281)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 10:08 PM

BBear, take care of you and yours. Ohio is pretty safe right now. All the candidates have left. Head this way.

Flcyclist  (Level: 131.2 - Posts: 691)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 10:20 PM

Yes, Florida seems to be fairly safe right now, although my nephew lives near New Orleans (Slliddel) and my brother lives in Washington, D.C., towards which Hanna is heading. And my house payments are going up $400/mo. next year due to insurance increases! What is this world coming to, anyway? If you've been asked to evacuate, by all means, do so and right now! Good luck to all of you and to all of us, too!

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 11:18 PM

Update - we got a condo in Destin, FL, for only 78 a night. Across from the beach. Nice.

Scared to death

Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 11:26 PM

Go now! Glad you got a place to rest and relax and watch the Weather Channel. Get in the car and go! Midnight is better for heading out than any time tomorrow. Beat the growing traffic. Go!

Spacecat  (Level: 164.5 - Posts: 673)
Sat, 30th Aug '08 11:37 PM

Best of luck. BBEAR. Will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. Expected landfall is for Moday afternoon. Perhaps it will ver west away from any major populated area. Let us know when you are safe.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 10:19 AM

Forecasts are bleak. Thinking good thoughts for New Orleans, the most special city in the country, IMO.

Tresgatos  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 4413)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 10:31 AM

I'm keeping everyone in the path of Gustav in my thoughts. I hope everything works out for you BBear and that you and your husband reach Florida safely!

-- Geri

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 4:50 PM

I don't understand why the levees have not been repaired after 3 years. Anyone know why?

1mks  (Level: 219.5 - Posts: 5925)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 5:02 PM

New Orleans is below sea level to begin with. That would be an incredible job. I hate that this one is headed straight for them again.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 5:07 PM

So it's not do-able?

Ladyvol  (Level: 212.2 - Posts: 5649)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 8:06 PM

I heard on the news earlier that some evacuees are heading toward Tennessee...Chattanooga hotels and motels are preparing for them...there are 4 hotels here in Rhea County where I live if anyone wants to venture up this way...I still have that spare bedroom too...Still praying for you all...

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Sun, 31st Aug '08 8:12 PM

bless your heart, Vickie, for offeringa bedroom. Would have taken you up on it. Maybe for Hannah?? (Sigh)

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