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Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 9:36 AM


Bill Maher in his opening monologue on his HBO show stated:

Palin has five children including an infant “that has Down syndrome. She had it when she was 43 years old. And it looks a lot like John Edwards.”

Please tell me the intelligent people here don't think this is funny.

Obama said "Family is off limits" it should be.

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 9:41 AM

Let's hope no one sees the humor in that. That comment about an infant without Down Syndrome would be tacky and crude at best, but to make it about this particular infant is in such poor taste I can't even come up with words to describe it.

Bill Maher's problem is he thinks he's funny.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 9:43 AM

Agreed. Not funny.

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2475)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 9:53 AM

So not funny on to many levels to even mention

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3640)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 10:04 AM

Bill Maher is never funny. Did you see him when, right after the death of Steve Irwin, he dressed up like him for Halloween? Complete with bloody sting ray barb sticking out of his heart. I hope Steve's family didn't see it.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 11:01 AM

Just as unfunny as when John McCain told a crowd at a GOP fundraiser that Chelsea Clinton was ugly because her father was Janet Reno.

Of course, Maher is neither a candidate nor a journalist, but even he and other comedians should leave the kids alone.

Debbie1957  (Level: 45.7 - Posts: 402)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 12:01 PM

Not funny at all.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 12:06 PM

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 12:07 PM

I saw what you were talking about Friday night. Bill Maher, like Sean Hannity, Michael Flager, Rush Limbaugh have to make stupid statements to keep attention on themselves. When Imus got fired or suspended, does anybody really think he wanted to say what he did about a girls basketball team. He got attention and made a ton of money. Remember kids, it's all for the "RATINGS", that's all.

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3847)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 12:32 PM

I agree...not funny. In very poor taste. But no further out of line than some of the pompous drivel that comes from the likes of Rush, O'Reilly, etal.

I also agree that family should be off limits. I wonder if, dating back to the JFK-Nixon election and coming forward through every presidential election, the Republicans will be able to divest themselves of this time-worn campaign strategy?

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 1:24 PM

As if Bill Maher is the only one that does this on the Dem side?

Give me a break - I'd definitely put pulling Palin's down syndrome child into this on par McCain with calling Chelsea ugly - shameful...just as many other politician's have made shameful and disguisting remarks - why do they? I guess because the public and the media eat it up - and maybe play on the fact that in this day and age that there is no such thing as bad publicity as long as it has people talking.

I well remember the Dems going on the attack with Cheney on the fact that his daughter was gay - designed simply to piss off Republicans - as is the issue with bringing Palin's daughter into it and her out of wedlock pregnancy. We all know that Dem's (media machine) don't give a flying &*(&# if Cheney's daughter is gay or that Palin's daughter is pregnant out of wedlock - it's all designed to swing those perceived to be "morality freaks" another direction.

So don't forget it's a two way street littered with disguisting debris - NOT just Republicans...plenty of trash bags to hand out to both sides.

I have the feeling that people on each side pay more attention to what "the other side is doing" and tend to forget there is plenty of this garbage to go around.

Jorboo  (Level: 39.1 - Posts: 141)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 2:10 PM

Discusting! The only way to quiet these people is not to watch or listen to their shows. It is all about ratings and money. Ignore them and they will go away.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 2:11 PM

Well, I do see a difference between what a comedian who is not a journalist and not part of any campaign might say, and what the candidate himself has said. And the press didn't eat it up, they ignored it and gave McCain a pass. Usually when a politician says something heinous and disgusting there's a price to be paid, but not that time; the papers didn't even print what he said, just that he had to apologize to the president for making an insulting joke about his family.

I'm not voting for Mahre (or McCain) for anything but I think it's one thing for a comedian to make fun of people's children, and quite another for a potential president to do it. Difficult as it may sometimes be, may we please deferentiate between candidates and comedians, and not blame Barack Obama or the Democratic Party for what Bill Mahre says on HBO? Thanks.

And anyway, wasn't Mahre's remark as much at the expense of Edwards as anyone?

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2763)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 2:22 PM

Maher is a total diq from way back.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 2:28 PM

No argument on that here.

Chyenn  (Level: 210.7 - Posts: 1332)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 4:51 PM

being obnoxious gets attention, works for kids in the classroom and adults on cameras or mikes. i think it's a basic character flaw to make such statements no matter who you are, where you come from, or where you think you want to go..

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 4:51 PM

The thing interesting about people like Bill Maher, FOX and even Howard Stern types. Their day isn't complete unless they piss off half the people that listen to them. I quit listening to talk radio a long time ago. When Rush Limbaugh was starting out I listened to him because our local station carried him and I didn't want to lose a good signal, besides OJ was on trial on that station. Rush had (or maybe still has) an expression "Mega-dittoes". I swear that every male caller said that word and I honestly thought it was the same person throughout the show. Does anyone remember the Morton Downey Show ??? I'm still trying to figure that one out.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 5:16 PM

All I remember is teeth from the Morton Downey show....

Mplaw51  (Level: 185.5 - Posts: 1580)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 6:11 PM

Bill Maher is a pig. There are no subjects off limits to him. Most everything he says and does is over the line. As many have said though, he isn't running for president, thank God. I won't watch him. I heard about the Steve Irwin thing. How he could think that could have a kernal of humor is beyond me. He must do drugs....

Kaufman  (Level: 270.0 - Posts: 3941)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 6:42 PM

Hello? There's a reason why his show was called Politically Incorrect. You have to assume nothing's off-limits with the guy. And pay no attention if you might be offended (as for me, it's scary that I first heard about this right now through Sploofus).

The Cheney comparison is apples and oranges. Nobody was making fun of Dick's daughter. They were making fun of the hypocracy and intolerance surrounding her.

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2498)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 7:24 PM

You'd have to find someone with the last name of Clinton to find a bigger bag of crap than Maher. What a tasteless, yet incestuous lad he is! Hey Maher: The 70's called and want their hairstyle back.

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2498)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 7:25 PM

Oops! I meant 'impetuous.'

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2498)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 7:25 PM

Or did I?

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 7:57 PM

Roast me his damn comedy show on the planet. I don't think even Bill would insinuate that his show is a political platform. IT'S A COMEDY SHOW.

Obama said "Family is off limits"...Bill's not running for political office, I'm fairly sure Barack meant for his campaign. And yes, the remark was meant to insult EDWARDS, not Palin.

Don't be looking to an HBO (which by it's nature gets ALOT more leeway than any other "network") comedy show to be politically correct. It's SUPPOSED to be offensive.

Wanna talk Chris Rock too? I'm sure he's made plenty of offensive comments.


Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5235)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 8:02 PM

It is plain clear that he was insulting John Edwards, not a helpless baby. Read between the lines.

Foogs  (Level: 282.5 - Posts: 847)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 9:49 PM

I'm right. You're wrong. End of discussion.

(That's how it works, right?)

Winddancer41  (Level: 63.3 - Posts: 1113)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 10:12 PM

I think that even bringing up the subject of the baby was in bad taste. I've done volunteer work for Special Olympics for 25 years and yet these brave and special people have to fight every day of their life to gain respect. We have now started a ban on the movie Tropic Thunder because of the names they use in the movie. Having a special child myself i can tell everyone that it is not an easy thing to do to care for these children 24/7, but we do it because we love them and we cheer them on when they do their best and cheer on every one of them that cross the finish line. Charlotte

Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 853)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 10:25 PM

No roast from me Chick. I enjoy Bill Maher's show, too.

That "joke" wasn't a hit for me either, but sometimes I laugh a lot during his show. The New Rules are typically funny.

Comedians love politicians-- so much material, so little time...

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 11:23 PM

Geesus...I watched both monologues...not there, but I remember the comment. I'll find the damn thing if it kills me.

Again Winddancer...NOT A joke at the expense of a child, it was a stab at Kerry.

Get the ducks in a row before you start shooting them.


Kaufman  (Level: 270.0 - Posts: 3941)
Mon, 8th Sep '08 11:33 PM

Looking at the text of the joke again, the problem is that Bill added "that has Down syndrome." That was totally irrelevant to the joke itself. If he'd just said, "Palin has five children, including a newborn infant. And that youngest one bears a striking resemblance to John Edwards," it wouldn't have offended nearly as many.

At least not for the same reason.

Better yet, he could have said, "... her two youngest children bear ..." to erase any possibility that the joke was referring to Trig's condition.

-- Your friendly jokologist.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 9th Sep '08 1:24 AM

I like Bill Maher....and find him clever and caustic about anything and everything
He's even-handed with his insults politically, and disrespect is the name of his game.
Think I heard him apologize for the joke about Steve Irwin - with the rider that his
joke was in poor taste because it was too soon after Irwin died....

Please don't put him in the same category as Limbaugh and O'Reilly....they don't
even have the grace to try to be funny, and have a political agenda

Bill Maher mostly wants people to realize, we're all human....even heroes have clay feet.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 9th Sep '08 5:11 AM

Oh, I had Bill Maher mixed up with someone else, I know who he is now! I haven't watched him much so can't say if he's funny, but was thinking of him as someone serious.....thus my reaction. Now that it's clarified I can see Chick's point.

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2498)
Tue, 9th Sep '08 7:48 AM

I made the same mistake. I mistook Maher for a comedian! When actually I think he may be a member of Sha-Na-Na! Greasers rule!

Pony Boy

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