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Pennwoman  (Level: 152.3 - Posts: 2478)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 11:00 AM


Lets see if we can have a political discussion, without the name calling and childishness.
I do not begin to pretend I have the answers or solutions.
I am a registered Republican, right now, I am planning to vote for Sen. Obama.
Convince me one way or the other. Or just share your thoughts.
And lets be thinking adults about it..

Bbear  (Level: 159.3 - Posts: 2301)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 11:14 AM

Voting for Obama. Had enough of the Bush Doctrine and don't want to see 8 more years of it. I think that would bankrupt our once-great nation.

Biden ain't all that, but Palin scares the pants off me.

I have been to the Reagan, Nixon, Truman, Eisenhower, Carter, Kennedy and HW Bush libraries. All fascinating, interesting places.

What on earth is W going to put in his? What is his legacy?

Alvandy  (Level: 225.6 - Posts: 7525)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 11:16 AM

I'm a long time registered Democrat. I've been active in the Labor movement for 35 years. On a national level, all recent Republican candidates have advocated policies that are "pro-business; pro-monopoly; corporate {Wall Street] leaning ; anti-regulation; anti consumer; worker vs. worker; anti-environment; anti union; etc.
This is why I cannot support McCain- Palin.
It's their legislative records I look at.

I can tolerate some policies that I do not personally agree with- but the social and economic platforms are what I care about and vote accordingly in the Federal , State and Local elections.

I never miss voting in an election. It's a privilege to live in a country that honors individual rights to exercise many freedoms. Voting is one of them.

I've voted for a lot of candidates who LOST. This is a conservative area [York County, PA], I've studied history and consider myself progressive. I don't want to see the U.S. go back to the "robber barons days." We've almost gotten there in recent years.

Thanks for reading my opinion.

Mplaw51  (Level: 176.9 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 11:44 AM

Good stuff, all...I have never registered to any political party. I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans and like you, Al, some have won, some have lost.This includes the Presidential election. I plan to vote the Obama/Biden ticket. My county-Monmouth County, NJ is Republican and has been for some time. There's a joke that goes around here that when you apply for a county or township job you'd better say you're a republican or you'll never get hired! No idea if that's true...

I agree that the pro big business thinking that has long been associated with Republicans has a hand in the current situation we are facing fiscally as a country. I don't pretend to be savvy enough to "get it" but I read and watch and am attempting to digest what the heck is going on.

I admire the research both pro and con my opinion that has been posted here. We have so many informed people who care enough to show real information to us all. I've learned a great deal from this site.

I have not been convinced that Sarah Palin was a good choice for VP. I listened to her carefully on Thursday night and felt she did a credible job surprisingly. No major blunders, had a hard time keeping on point at times. I imagine some would say the same of Biden! Being next in line to John McCain who is in his 70's and has had melanoma surgeries (a deadly skin cancer) is not good for this country. Her little happy "Joe Six Pack" was gratuitous and insulting.

Joe Six-pack

A lower-middle-class male. For example, I don't think opera will appeal to Joe Six-pack; he'd prefer a rock concert. This disparaging term, first recorded in 1977, conjures up the image of a man in undershirt and construction helmet who will down all of a six-pack (six cans or bottles of beer sold in a package) in an evening.

This isn't cute and someone should have stopped her from saying it.

Thanks for starting this post!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 12:20 PM

Neither McCain nor Palin would be on my short list. I am a registered Republican and wrote in Duncan Hunter as my choice in the primary.

I am totally pro-big business. They are the ones who create the jobs for the rest of us and put food on the table of the vast number of Americans. I do not own my own business, though I teach privately and for Fort Worth.

I am a social conservative. I believe abortion is murder and cannot vote for a party whose platform is pro-abortion.

I cannot talk anyone into voting for McCain because I disagree with him so much. But I absolutely cannot vote for Obama/Biden because I absolutely oppose both of them - Biden more than Obama. But I believe Obama is where he is because of his looks and the media's unbridled support of him that refuses to report negatives about him or positives about McCain (for the most part).

I believe Bush has such a low approval rating not because he is a Republican and liberals are against him, but because we Republicans are angry for him for following liberal policies - the out of control spending, the refusal to do anything to control the border.

I did not vote for Bush, either. I wrote in "Alan Keyes," who, btw, ran against Obama in Illinois and who, apparently, lost his mind and said things that astounded me (very negatively) during that election.

For me, if 1 is the highest rating and 10 is the lowest, I would give Obama a 10 (Biden an 11) and McCain a 7 (Bush a 9). That leaves me nowhere but voting against the democrat platform in this election rather than FOR anyone.

Diva305  (Level: 145.7 - Posts: 1641)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 12:37 PM

I don't think this is the forum for this; we've already lost GREAT posters over this. Why do you wanna start again?

Since you do tho, and I don't think it will change anybody's mind, but if you REALLY CARE, why don't you read:

IN HIS OWN WORDS! I won't go into his quotes, I assume you can read and MAYBE understand.

Dreams of My Father


Audacity of Hope


The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality


Diva305  (Level: 145.7 - Posts: 1641)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 1:17 PM

This will be my last post.
Since maybe you didn't hear Obama's mentor, the Rev. Wright, like Barry Hussein Obama sitting in his pews for TWENTY YEARS, say the KKKUSA or Kill Whitey or GD America, here are the quotes from OBAMA'S OWN MOUTH!

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

You decide.
G-d Bless America

Jorboo  (Level: 39.1 - Posts: 141)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 1:17 PM

The last eight years have been hard on the majority of Americans. If we were all rich I suppose the Republicans would be where your loyalty lies. The fact they are able to sell their agenda to people who are poor and will get poorer is a testament to the Republican fear tactics. I am voting for the Democrats.

Sargon  (Level: 111.2 - Posts: 1256)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 1:49 PM

For a long time I thought I was a Democrat because that is the way I voted for the last 40 years. Then a few years ago I realized I dislike all political parties. It is just that Democrats come closer to what I want. I really hate the spin that is put on everything now.

Even though we are facing the greatest economic crisis since the Depression both parties are trying to place blame and take credit for having a better plan to give away billions of dollars.

Normally I don't think much about the VP candidates during the election but the idea of having Palin a heartbeat away is very unsettling.

Found a very interesting website that examines political ads and statements made by both candidates. Check it out:

1mks  (Level: 208.1 - Posts: 5864)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 2:17 PM

I would prefer talking about the weather.....then maybe no feathers would be ruffled.

Nelly  (Level: 169.5 - Posts: 1167)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 2:44 PM

Seconded Marsha. What is it they say about sex, religion and politics . . . . ! Interestlingly if you put that into Google, there is a discussion forum for exactly those topics. On the other hand, how about starting a 'US presidential election discussion' GROUP on Sploofus for those who wish to debate the subject.

Just my 2 cents' worth!

Caramel1  (Level: 126.0 - Posts: 21555)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 3:10 PM

Could not agree more. Not one person has changed his/her mind by anything said here. The only thing accomplished has been plenty of hurt feelings. Linda

Pennwoman  (Level: 152.3 - Posts: 2478)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 3:26 PM

Well I have to disagree -- I thought I was pretty clear on there being better places for political talk than a trivia game site after Tex's raving but people seem to want to talk about it --- and THIS post isnt about hurt feelings and name calling, I started it when the last post of Tex's rant, said, cant we restart this, without the name calling?

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 3:50 PM

I agree, Martina. And the threads' topics are obvious. If one doesn't want to read or if someone would be offended, just don't read them. I refuse to post on Tex's rant except when someone made a statement that insinuated everyone in Texas was - well, a very negative thing. There is no greater state in the US or greater people. There may be others JUST as great, but none greater.

And of all the places people meet to play and talk, certainly this site has NO idiots. I feel it is disgraceful to address the people here in that or any other disrespectful way.

And just because one THINKS a thing doesn't mean one should SAY or DO a thing. Just because you have the right to be obnoxious, disrespectful, or lie about someone else (or say a truth in a rude way), doesn't mean you SHOULD do so.

Rights are one thing. Common decency and courtesy, in my opinion, should supercede rights.

The most intelligent people should also be the most thoughtful and courteous - because they know better. And from all whose works and thoughts I have read here on Sploofus, I can only deduce that aside from jank0614. (who is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer but has a kind heart under all the bitterness ) the people on Sploofus are way up in the percentile of intelligencia.

Al is probably my best friend here (a man pushing chocolate? Of course!) - and no two politically diametrically opposed people probably exist within the Sploofus shores. Never an unkind word has passed between us. In fact, we have a conspiratorial thought once in awhile and a competition which isn't very competitive because I don't stand a snowball's chance. Still, I want to know what he thinks - I respect my friend.

Smoke and I are also on totally opposite ends of the spectrum, yet she is one of my heroes here - how could such a magnificent mind and beautiful heart not be mine and everyone's favorite?

So far, we have handled the dialogue quite respectfully. If there are those who offend you personally, just read the other threads and play the games! There is room for everyone on the island.

But Al is the diplomatic voice of reason, doggone him.

Mplaw51  (Level: 176.9 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 4:05 PM

Well said...

Koota  (Level: 180.6 - Posts: 2097)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 4:20 PM

I haven't posted my views to any political thread here -- and won't -- but I agree that there is room on Sploofus for courteous discourse.

If you don't want to talk politics, there are lots of other threads to contribute to.

Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 4:34 PM

If I was American I would vote for the Democrats, the word has three syllables, anymore than three then well you have to watch out

Salzypat  (Level: 154.4 - Posts: 5295)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 4:52 PM

Pennwoman, maybe you and I are just too idealistic in thinking that we could have a political discussion with interest and passion but not meanness.

Jank, I have to agree with you on several points. Regarding your most recent post that civility should take precedence over one's right to say anything they want, I wholeheartedly agree. As I once told my daughter-in-law, just because you can think something doesn't mean you have to say it.

I'm sorry to say I also agree with you in an earlier statement that I will be voting against someone more than FOR someone.

I am conservative so guess my vote will be with the Republicans, mainly because I agree with many of their points.

A couple things about Obama have disturbed me. One was the pastor he listened to and must have agreed with or he wouldn't have stayed in that church. The other was watching Obama being interviewed and asked when he felt life began. He tap danced all around the issue. His stance on that issue (after he finally came up with an answer) is not in agreement with what I believe.

As far as Palin being a heartbeat from the presidency, we have - in a sense - already had a woman president who had far less experience than Palin. When Woodrow Wilson suffered a serious stroke, his wife, Edith, kept his true condition a secret (this was in the days when the press was not so intrusive and suspicious). She chose what issues would be brought to him, and who could see him and when, and who knows whether or not she made the decisions for him. For all purposes, she was pretty much running the country. We managed to survive that.

Nelly  (Level: 169.5 - Posts: 1167)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 4:57 PM

Katy, I agree with you - there is room for courteous discourse and intelligent debate on Sploofus and I have no problem with that. Martina, so far this thread has been just that, but how many times in the past have we seen discussions on politics or religion end up in a 'bar room brawl'.

That in itself doesn't bother me too much personally, but many people are hurt and that is what I hate to see when threads turn ugly!

Now if everyone were like Al - a diplomat and peacemaker with a great sense of humour - we wouldn't have these upsets.

Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 5:05 PM

Is it true that the People's Peppermint Patty Party's official nominee for President is Alvandy?

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 7:08 PM

I vote in the republican primaries but as of now I am going with Obama. I haven't been impressed with either candidate. I have been even less impressed with McCain since his selection of Palin as a running mate. In my own situation both candidates will make me worse off in four years but with Obama I think I will be less worse off,,,,or whatever.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 7:19 PM

I cannot say any political party has made me better or worse off, financially or any other way. Every year of my working life my income has risen. I have taken on more duties, returned to college for my teaching certificate, moved to better paying districts. Those in the south seem to have more of a self-dependent attitude as a whole, and that has more to do with personal attitude than politics - I think.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 8:47 PM

This is going to be my last post on the subject but I'm really disturbed by the fact that so many people are listening to the media push and blaming big business and greed on the current crises that we, the taxpayers just got handed the bill on.

I worked my butt off to build my husbands 401k for the 17 years her worked at his last company. He had people that wanted advice from me, which of course, I was not able to give any longer because I let my series 7 lapse many years ago.

Here are people, all with the same ability to makes decisions and manage their own 401k plans. My husband had 3 times as much as the other people - NOT because we had more money - NOT because we had secret insider information on some stock (all T Rowe Price plans were available to all) - but because I took the time to pay attention and learn...that's why...they had the same opportunity to work and learn how to do this, just americans have the freedom to work and earn...this trodden down "poor me" system is the root of all this problems - the laziness is encouraged by the liberal branch of the government in the form of sympathy against those bad republicans and evil rich people - do you see those guys sitting there waiting on a welfare check? No, they just vote themselves a raise with OUR money.

I was sick to my stomach to see the 13,000.00 drop in the portfolio yesterday. my quit his job in January - got a new one last week and quit it - but this isn't about the fact that my husband obviously wants me to kill him after he decided he wanted a divorce after he decided to get a job (yeah I'm dizzy too) - this is the fact that we, the American Tax Payers are now footing a tax bill for an affirmative action mortgage crises that began in 1977 with the introduction of the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) - banks were forced to make loans to unqualified recipients in order to increase growth in minority and lower income areas - after Clinton got in there was a huge push to this and if the banks/lenders balance sheets did not show a specific percentage of these types of loans - they got low CRA ratings which impacted their ability to do other types of business.

Many are right - and coming into Sploofus these days is really just sad for me - January would have been two years - I am saddened to see smart people just repeating things the talking heads have said - people are entitled to their own opinion - but dear God please make it one that you have researched.

This crises didn't start with the Republicans - it started with a grand plan of socialism at a new level - and I "get" the the liberals think socialism is good - it's not - I work for what I have/had and I work hard - who the hell is it you think you are to take it away to make it fair.

That's what is wrong with this country - we have the liberal politicos preaching "oh - those bad old rich people - vote for us and we'll take it from them and give it to you" I don't care what kind of description you give it, or pretty words you paint it up in, when Biden said (paraphrased) "You say redistributing wealth is a bad thing, we call it fair" I thought I had died and gone to hell.

Oh, I have...

Toledosugar  (Level: 51.4 - Posts: 281)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 8:58 PM

I can't stomach either Obama or McCain. A life long Republican is voting Liberal this time and anyone on the ticket who is currently in, I'm voting against. I understand I will be wasting my vote but my conscience won't let me continue to let things go on as they are. Consider this the year of my protest.

Ladyvol  (Level: 202.9 - Posts: 5435)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 9:08 PM

I had thought about not replying to this post because I don't like to discuss (or is it argue) politics. I have my own beliefs and I vote for who I think is the better man for the job be he Democrat, Republican or the average Joe! Several people here are pushing their political beliefs on those of us who don't agree with their particular form of politics. I do not push my religious beliefs and therefore do not push my political beliefs either. It only leads to angry words, hurt feelings and causes some of us to show our ignorance.
The best thing I think we should do is either stop these political posts altogether or at least tone them down! You are not going to change anyone's beliefs to suit your own so why push it!
I use to come here to play games, visit with friends and just to relive some every day stress. I feel like I can no longer do that because of those who keep pushing and shoving their political beliefs here on the boards. We were all created equal and were given minds to think with and we should use the rights given to us respectfully and wisely. Not to put down, abuse or deliberately
hurt others. Do you think we could do this? I do! But until these posts (and I know this is the land of free speech) are made to not hurt or malign others then I see no way of changing anything!
You all can argue or debate whichever you call it but I think I'll pass...This is my first and last post on the subject.

Kaufman  (Level: 253.9 - Posts: 3936)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 9:22 PM

Redistribution of wealth is not exclusively socialist. It as also capitalist, liberal, conservative, you name it. Just look at the massive redistribution that big business has been conducting lately ... to India and China and Bernuda and a large number of incompetent executives, among others. Is it any wonder there's a torrent of "we're not going to take it anymore" from a vast number of Americans who've seen their real wages drop during this recent period of so-called American prosperity?

Our economy has been rotting at the core, and now we're seeing the catastrophe, there's no other word for it, brought on by the current administration. Those of us who think they and the system that they enabled need to be flushed out like the raw sewage they are will be voting against those whose positions caused this mess. That happens to include the distinguished Senator from Arizona.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 9:33 PM

My thoughts?

I think I'll have another beer.


Difod  (Level: 241.9 - Posts: 108)
Sat, 4th Oct '08 10:41 PM

I'm having another Scotch~

and missing Lodi....

Fudypatootie  (Level: 194.4 - Posts: 1302)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 12:07 AM

Republican ticket for president.
Democrat for Governor.
Voting against all incumbents.

'Nuff said.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 12:11 AM

It is shameful that the "Politics of Fear" has raised it's ugly head again at the last minute before the elections.
Last elections it was the War aginst Arabs that helped GWB win....this time the rumours that are circulating
about Obama are unsubstantiated and fear-mongering. He is and always has been an American citizen who
showed the maximum regard for the opinions of all Americans....Rich and poor, Christian and Muslim....

As Kaelin said, the laws to ensure that all white or Black Americans have the right to own property were placed
on the books over 30 years ago. Clinton may have "pushed" for those laws to be obeyed. However - the CRISIS
you are in now did not start with the started with greedy CEOs, CFOs, Financial Advisors
"cooking the books" and voting for millions of dollars in bonuses for themselves.....

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 12:17 AM

And Jank....
Please consider the fact that Teachers - once paid the lowest salaries,
got themselves Unionized....and now teachers have decent salaries
and benefits.
Democracy is as Jesus practised his Faith...."even as you do unto the
least of these, you do unto me.

Diva305  (Level: 145.7 - Posts: 1641)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 1:04 AM

Sorry Rowlanda.

Just quoting Obama-sorry if HIS WORDS make you fearful.

They should.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 2:52 AM

I haven't read the book - only seen these short quotes sent to me in emails by Republican friends. I wonder if you could post longer exerpts - say, the relevant paragraphs, or at least the sentences before and after - so we can judge these quotes in context?


Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 3:56 AM

Google is a wonderful thing. I found the longer quotes; the meaning of the words is not as inflammatory as it sounds out of context in the campaign emails.

Just to consider "the most damning one of all":
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Turns out he was comparing the anti-immigrant backlash effect on his constituents after 9/11 to the internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII. The whole quote:

Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.

Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. [Page 260-261]

He's saying he would be against putting Muslims in concentration camps.

The other quotes are similarly un-scary when you see the whole statement. Check them out at Snopes or at

Alvandy  (Level: 225.6 - Posts: 7525)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 4:40 AM

Smoke deserves a few peppermint patties for her diligence.

Snopes. com--------- don't make your mind up----- without it!

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 4:55 AM

Yeah Smoke....

Glad to see I`m not the only one getting these Republican diatribes....
I just have this to say

1. I`m not American - can`t vote - and yourè wasting your time
2. I just put them in ``Junk`` anyway

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 5:14 AM

No, we're not the only ones getting them, it's a highly organized campaign. It strikes me as ironic in the extreme that the swiftboating of Barack Obama is taking the form of accusations of racism.

Folks, please check these things out before you spread them. I'm willing to listen to any reasonable doubt or verifiable fact, but when you spread things that are distorted and just plain not true, you don't do your own cause justice.

Maurlin  (Level: 210.9 - Posts: 2660)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 6:20 AM

Donna- thanks SO much for your post giving the complete Obama quote context. One of my friends is extremely anti-Obama and sends out a stream of emails, one of which was the one you cited. She also has said that, in fairness, she would send out opposing views if asked. I took the liberty of sending your post to her and asking whether she would send it out as an opposing view as she had promised.

Koota  (Level: 180.6 - Posts: 2097)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 9:45 AM

My own mother sends me endless political tripe by email. I don't read it at all. I figure that the "delete" button is there for a reason.

Pennwoman  (Level: 152.3 - Posts: 2478)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 10:39 AM

I dont know kids, I think this thread is going well -- thought provoking -- people actually taking time to post their thoughts.. I know political talk is dangerous but I think all of you have done well, strong work Sploofusers.
Now I am going to start a post with religion, politics and money talk.

Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 10:47 AM

Aa Winston Churchill once said

politics is a three word syllable for follower

Actually he didn't say that I did,

I am not involved in your political debate, partly due to the fact it seems to take years to elect someone. I will say this though, a pro life hunter is a dichotomy

Diva305  (Level: 145.7 - Posts: 1641)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 11:18 AM

Hmmm....wonder where Obama got the idea for the title of his book?

Audacity of Hope?

Maybe there's a DVD on that by someone else?

I'm dun.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 5th Oct '08 12:08 PM

Yes, I know the four-word phrase was borrowed from the awful Jeremiah Wright for Obama's inspiring convention speech, and later used for the title of the book. Dunno about a DVD but can't find one by that name.

Not knowing where it came from the first time I heard it in '04, it reminded me of Martin Luther King. The phrase in context:

"I'm not talking about blind optimism here -- the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don't talk about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. No, I'm talking about something more substantial. It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker's son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too. Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!"

The sermon itself is quite beautiful, if you read it without thinking about who wrote it - here's full text (the "audacity" passage is part II, several paragraphs below the painting):

No matter where those four words came from, not many will argue that what America needs most right now is hope in the face of grave difficulty and incertainty, and the coming months (maybe years) are going to show us what a precious and vital commodity hope is.

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