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playfulpelican
Playfulpelican  (Level: 20.1 - Posts: 42)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 11:27 AM

IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF MEMBER QUIZZES -- AGAIN

I am apparently among the few that think it's OK for Sploofus to take their time and make these quiz requirements/editing changes correctly.

The purpose is largely to eliminate the inane, brainless quizzes. (And, to uphold obvious standards of civility.)

I do however believe that prohibiting fill-in-the-blank quizzes, as well as requiring that all quizzes be in the form of a question, would be the triumph of process over purpose. That will solve nothing. The inanity of the quiz has nothing to do with the format or structure. Both of these formats, as well as the question format, yield both good and bad quizzes.

The fix needs to be in the quality of the editing. Unfortunately, that's very time consuming. But it's the only way to do it.

(I, of course, concur with eliminating the scrambles, the 1+1=2, and the 'pick the green veggie' quizzes.)

This is my second post with this title/subject. The Sploofus gremlins omitted by ID on the first one several weeks ago. I am -----

---------playfulpelican



englishrose49
Englishrose49  (Level: 22.0 - Posts: 38)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 11:44 AM

Right now any new quiz would be welcome !

eksimba
Eksimba  (Level: 29.0 - Posts: 155)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 11:46 AM

playfulpelican - You are not alone. I, among lots of others, are happy to see that sploofus is taking efforts to try and monitor not just the basic content of the quizzes (to guard against plagiarism), but also the quality of the quizzes by upholding some semblance of minimum standards.

Obviously, though, one person's junk may be another person's treasure. It will be impossible to come up with "standards" which will please everybody. But, I don't think we are alone in feeling that if nothing changes, sploofus will slowly die out as the already massive quiz content (how many quizzes are there now? over ten thousand?) crumbles under the heavy weight of even more junk quizzes, which seem to be created at a rate much higher than true trivia challenges.

I welcome the slowing of the quiz creation process, but only if it means that those which do eventually get through are of higher quality, and ultimately born of greater creativity.

Of course, I may be biased as I am not a prolific quiz writer myself, so I don't have as high an interest in the ability to crank out 10 or 20 quizzes a day. So, for those of you who are feeling hurt by the slowness of the current process, feel free to tell me to shut my trap.



- Eric

imatfaal
Imatfaal  (Level: 96.4 - Posts: 58)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 11:55 AM

Agree whole-heartedly.

An alternative viewpoint that also supports making the majority of quizzes tougher is that it levels the playing field between those with dial-up and those with broadband. If in the majority of quizzes it is necessary to complete in under 30 seconds to get into top 10 then those with dialup might as giveup. I realise the points dished out at present do not rely on the time - but lets face it - it's nice to get into the top ten of a quiz.

Regards/Matthew

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 12:26 PM

i think there is a wealth of good that can come from this; more than enough to outweigh the negatives that are certain to rankle a few. Let's work together and build a better sploofus on top of the already great sploofus we have been able to enjoy.

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 1:53 PM

Shut your trap, Eric! :D Of course, I'm only kidding. Feel free to retort if you must.

I'm sure all of this so going to be great but I am one of the impatient many who can't wait to see some NEW stuff on the quiz page!

siriusofazkaban
Siriusofazkaban  (Level: 15.1 - Posts: 196)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 2:54 PM

I'm so torn about what I want. Everyone makes a good point.

I like the easy quizzes sometimes when I just want to relax and be able to sploofus while I watch TV and see myself get more than 50% on a quiz.
But I also dont like the fact that people can get ahead by taking only the easy quizzes.
I just dont know. It's a very fine line between what kind of quizzes should be on and what shouldnt, but overall I think Sploofus's diversity is what has people coming back for more. It seems like there's something for everyone, so whether you're getting ahead by being smart and taking long hard quizzes, or you're getting ahead by zooming through the quizzes that look simple and to the point, everyone is climbing the leaderboards. I think that sploofus has so many options that, really, everyone is equal.
Even if you have a slow dial-up connection, there are wager tokens that allow you to jump large point gaps and so on....so yeah.... there's my ramble for this morning. Morning? Wow, it's already 12:55.....ok not morning.
Anyway, everyone just keep doing what you're doing and things will keep getting better.
I'm out,
~Sirius

playfulpelican
Playfulpelican  (Level: 20.1 - Posts: 42)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 4:10 PM

I presume that Sploofers with dial-up, like me, would not hazard a wager with anyone, ever. (I have been challenged twice, where there's no point risk to me. On one, we both answered correctly but the challenger did it in an impossible for me 6 seconds. On the other, I won because I had the subject-matter knowledge and the challenger answered incorrectly.)

It is unclear to me what the benefit is of being among the fastest 10 on member quizzes. What is the reward? Obviously many pursue it, and successfully. If there is no reward, what is the enjoyment of speed-taking a member quiz and completing it in 30 or so seconds? I ask these questions out of complete ignorance, and a desire to know the answer. (Although I at times make the top 10, and now and then am #1, that is infrequent because of dial-up.)

I do respect the view stated by several here that a very wide variety in degree of difficulty is an attraction and not a detriment. The quality of the content, rather than degree of difficulty, is the benchmark.

The other option, which I doubt would be a successful business model, would be to do away with points altogether and just author and take quizzes for their enjoyment. That's the pure option, but I realize that it has no legs.

That's just my thoughts. I realize there's lots of different views out there. Whatever Sploofus decides, I'm probably not going away.

---playfulpelican

siriusofazkaban
Siriusofazkaban  (Level: 15.1 - Posts: 196)
Thu, 1st Sep '05 4:29 PM

Yeah, I meant Wager tokens help you jump up in points, not showdowns. Cause with a wager, as long as you can answer the question right, you get the points. It isnt dependent on time. And do away with points playfulpelican?!? That's the only reason I'm here!!!!! Hehe, just kidding, I know you werent really serious.
~Sirius


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