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texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 8:54 AM

ONE WEEK 'TILL THE ELECTION. WILL YOU VOTE FOR THE LIB OR THE SOCIALIST?

I voted for the lib, John McCain. I really can't support the extreme socialist agendas that Obama is supporting.
Socialized medicine is a proven bust.
We just socialized most of our mortgage industry. That's bad. The Fannie Freddie failure was a direct result of liberal policies and their attempt to socialize housing.
All the proposed handouts Obama is espousing will cost more than we can possibly afford.
Tax rebates to millions who don't pay taxes to begin with.
Social Security benefits and Medicare Benefits for Illegal Aliens.
Cut spending on our Military and Missile Defense.
Driver's Licenses for Illegals.
Higher Taxes on Corporations, who will then pass the costs on to us.
Higher taxes on anyone making 75k or more.

Not to mention his ties to all these nefarious individuals. Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, et al.

Obama is a choice we can't afford.


garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6646)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:09 AM

Well THAT's a surprise Tex; what made you change your mind?
Probably Felix....



texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:13 AM

Sorry, Garry... I don't follow.

What did I change my mind on? Or was that sarcasm, and I missed it.

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.5 - Posts: 2672)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:25 AM

By a mile.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:30 AM

In honor of another member, should I start ending every message with:


I Spit On You

????

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:33 AM

I didnt know you were French!

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:21 AM

I'm not...

I didn't know he was either....

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.5 - Posts: 2672)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:22 AM

My vote would be just ending every message.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:27 AM

Less boring -
How does everyone feel about left-handed owls following the teachings of Che or Brigitte Bardot?

resolsufoolps
Resolsufoolps  (Level: 20.7 - Posts: 95)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:27 AM

on Nov. 4 th I will vote for Barack Obama, so looks like my vote will cancel out your vote, have a good day!

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.6 - Posts: 1684)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:32 AM

I just want to meet the left-handed owl!

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:32 AM

I didnt know Che's last name was Bardot -- see you learn something everyday!

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:33 AM

Oh dear. (walks away, shaking head)

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:33 AM

And isn't the collective noun a Parliament of owls -- does that mean they can't vote?

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:34 AM

That's no way to treat a left-handed owl.


texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:39 AM

Probably not Loser, or ResoL....

Unless you live in Texas.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:39 AM

No, Pennwoman, but they're allowed partly meant howls ......

asdibbens
Asdibbens  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 423)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:55 AM

I've met several left-handed owls. They're a hoot!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:58 AM

'Oooooooooowwwwwwwwwwllllllllll !

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:59 AM

Do left-handed owls fly in a counter-clockwise direction, toward the right? Coz that might be important to some inquiring minds.

Does anybody else hear a familiar voice around here, once in a while?

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:01 AM

I guess clockwise would be toward the right.

1mks
1mks  (Level: 211.2 - Posts: 5888)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:03 AM

My but you are wise today.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:10 AM

Just don't get our Ex's involved.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:17 AM

I wonder if left handed owls, can curl their tongues into a tube?

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:20 AM

Ok, Left handed owls flying to the right. Hmmm....

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:24 AM

Speaking for the hawks, I don't like owls all that much. Always thought they were a bunch of rooks. But I suppose they may have done starling work in the past.

Well - must flaming go.
Can't lark around all day.

resolsufoolps
Resolsufoolps  (Level: 20.7 - Posts: 95)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:37 AM

this is a national election, in case you forgot, Wee, so it doesn't matter what state I live in, now about those owls, or don't you give a hoot?

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:40 AM

I love the self-righteous notion that anyone not as far to the right as me is a commie Lliberal, or for that matter a right-wing fascist Conservative if they are not as far to the left.

I also love the notion that "I" don't follow others opinions...I am a freethinker. Rush has hammered the "you are a freethinker" mantra into his dittoheads forever...what does ditto mean???...right before instructing them on what they are free to think. I noticed a long time ago that those out front, not following people, sound a lot like an echo. Free thinkers would not be espousing existing dogma, and then backing it up with sources of their dogma.

It is like the kid who colors her hair a weird color, gets a couple piercings and rips her clothes, all differently from the 100 other kids at school, then says she are expressing her individualism versus the girl who dresses like a preppie, wearing something pink every day, unlike anyone else at school. Which is real making a statement of individualism?

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:42 AM

There it is again. Doesn't anyone hear it?

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:44 AM

I keep accidently posting right after Tuzilla. I'm not responding to you, Tuz. If I did I'd be saying "Right on!" because you keep saying what I'm thinking. Thanks!

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 11:49 AM

If you are mentioning "Rush" the rock group. you are right. "I Will Choose Free Will"

If you are referencing Rush Limbaugh, I'm not a dittohead. Rush is Conservative Entertainment. Much like Ellen. Just on the other side.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 12:11 PM

I will probably vote for Obama -- who I consider a tepid, cautious, middle-of-the-road politician. If I do and he is elected (which would be a first for me voting in presidential elections since 1972), I would be amazed if I was not ultimately disappointed by his centerist policies. But at least it won't be a continuation of the policies of the radical right. If pre-election polls for Michigan show Obama with a lead I think is insurmountable, I will likely vote Green in the presidential election.


tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 12:17 PM

Tex, good call on Rush (the band)

And I was not pointing to you, in particular...but the dittohead nation, in general.

Thank you for saying the truth, that Limbaugh is entertainment that spouts a scripted agenda. He is going to vote for Obama to raise his listener number and to make more money...business is business. Ellen will vote for McCain.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 12:20 PM

TSK,

Do you really see Obama as centrist? One of the issues I have with McCain is his centrist leanings. I'm sure most have figured this out by now, but I think McCain is WAYYYY to liberal.

I feel Obama, on the other hand, is no where NEAR the center. I personally see him as so far left as to be seriously approaching a pure Socialist agenda.

(BTW, I hope it is noticed that this entire post, so far, has NO personal attacks by anyone. Just my statement of what I perceive in Obama's views. How I disagree, and how some disagree with me. No Chugga's... No-one calling me a KKK member. Nor me calling anyone a pinko commie)

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 1:06 PM

See, *this* is okay political talk, calmly discussing the issues and saying what you think, not blasting others. With a little silliness thrown in by those who think it's all pretty silly. And btw, I've hinted that I think some "comrades" are back among us without announcing themselves, and I've been chastised into hereby renouncing that belief. So, some minds have changed as a result of discussion on this board, after all!

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 1:23 PM

Ok, here's a political topic for ya..


As a fiscal conservative, does Rush Limbaugh vote for Obama to help support his part in Free Enterprise? So's he can have more to rail about on his radio show? And better ratings? AND would it be against his political views to do so?

BTW, I do agree with a lot of Limbaugh's views, not all of them... But I still feel he is more entertainment than anything.

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 2:44 PM

Tex: As long as the Democrats hold sway in Congress, Rush won't have to help Obama.

And, by that logic, the cast of SNL would defninitely block-vote for McCain and his running mate.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 2:46 PM

Tex. I do, in fact, consider Obama a centrist. This is based on a number of issues, including calling for an increase in the size of the military and his call for cross-border attacks into non-enemy nations based on "actionable intelligence" that somebody we want may be in that country. Can you imagine how the USA would react if any country on earth decided it could lunch military operations in the USA because it had "actionable intelligence" that some bad guy they wanted was located here?

Obama ultimately supported warrantless eavesdropping to combat "terrorism" and the telco amnesty provisions of the bill that specifically authorized the same and regularized one group of the young Bush's crimes against the Constitution.

Another issue is his "universal" healthcare plan. There won't be relatively equal access to care or reductions in cost until private insurers are not allowed to profit from health insurance. The current system encourages claim denial so insurers can make more. The idea that the government will interfere in the physician-patient relationship to the extent that private insurers due today strikes me as ludicrous.

Obama already has the Democratic establishment advisors in place , suggesting no fundamental change, but a return to rule by the Democratic corporatists -- who are, indeed, kinder and gentler than their Republican counterparts -- but who aren't really about change. The "Socialist" tax policy attributed to Obama roughly restores us to Clinton-era tax policy -- which was more favorable to wealth than the Reagan policies.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 3:01 PM

Well, I think Clinton was pretty far left as well..... LOL.

7.5 more days.....

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 3:03 PM

Actually, in the grand scheme of things, I prefer gridlock.

When NOTHING gets done in Washington DC, we All are less likely to lose more of our rights....

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 9:36 PM

I voted last Friday.

Rush blows.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:00 PM

And sucks.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:01 PM

Gosh, I'm sorry, that one got away from me. Would someone please delete it?

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:10 PM

Vote for Pedro!!

Me.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 27th Oct '08 10:20 PM

"When NOTHING gets done in Washington DC, we All are less likely to lose more of our rights...."

This is true - the thought of the "three headed monster" (and that would be no matter what party in) and the loss of checks and balances, as pathetic as they are - is really scary if I let myself really think about it.

Anyone who believes that the "people in Washington" are there for you or there for me, need to polish the rose off your glasses. Despite the media blitz, everything that is happening now has taken years and years to grow (not just 8) - and it won't be fixed in 4 - no matter who is there and who you think can fix it.

I voted early and got a bit peeved - I went to "slide in" my ticket in the ticket machine (electronic) and hear this frantic NO NO NO - put it over here -- so there is the metal ballot box with a pretty wide mouth (hey I coulda stuck my hand in there) and a lock on it. I was told - we do that later.

I complained - deaf ears I'm sure -- but I have not a lot of confidence over the whole national early voting - if this is the process.
Any people out there that work in the precints? I really don't remember this last election - I'm almost positive I ran it through the electronic machine?

I, thankfully, am going to put blinders on for Tuesday - the kids were one of the four bands that placed in area for UIL State Marching - so we leave Sunday to compete Monday at the Alamodome against 19 other bands that have gone through this grueling process.

Anyone with kids heading to San Antonio 3A State Competition - give me a PM -

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 3:18 AM

Well, I haven't posted for a loonnnngggg time.

I get it. The trifecta will hurt me bad. I lose, when all three have the power. Barney and the exuberant (joyessly unrestrained) will figure out I have saved too much money for my retirement, and that they have been remiss in affording me shelter from taxation for my 401k and IRAs, when I should have realized (smack!) that the government knows best. Man, Social Security is the answer! What was I thinking? Saving was a bad decision. I'm ready to go on the dole. Only way I will strike it rich.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 4:15 AM

I agree most Republicans are at work and not reading silly threads. Individuals require no other opinion than their own. Mindless sheep however are a different story all together. Garry are you from Hamelin? LOL! Although I'll vote for McCain, the ' I told you so's' when o'bama hussien wins will be more than enough compensation. Go ahead and line up for your free cheese.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 6:23 AM

The more important question is whether you'll vote for the Leo or the Virgo. And if you don't know who is which, no peeking!

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 6:42 AM

I'm not into astrology, but boy, do they fit the stereotypes

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 8:15 AM

Tsk - probably for you more than many as you seem attuned to much of this - what are you thoughts on this?
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/1155.html

I try to keep up with things and was actually reading up on when the "tax cuts" expire
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1476.html
and reminding myself of the chart that compared taxes under Clinton/Bush
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22958.html
and historic overall taxes
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

and had not read that first article...not saying not of interest to others by the way - as I think it is -

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 10:59 AM

Kaelin: I read the Tax Foundation summary of recommended changes from the president's Tax Commission. There is a lot of material there, and I am commenting on only some of what is stated, but I would be happy to respond to any specific question you might have about the proposals.

1. Top Rate tax Reduction. As someone who had a run of ten years in the $250,000 to $300,000 income range, I have never whined about the top marginal tax rates. My objection to the amount of taxes I pay has to do with how that money is spent. I don't believe -- in this age of computers -- that lowering and limiting the number of tax brackets makes the process of doing returns any simpler. I personally believe the top marginal tax rates should be increased.

2. Reduction in Corporate Tax rates. This one really depends on what other changes are made to the Tax Code. The fact is that most corporations manage to pay no tax already and various accounting tricks that are sanctioned by the IRS reduce liabilities. I think five years ago, corporations contributed something like 7% of total federal revenues. I could favor elimination of corporate income tax if acceptable adjustments were made to the Code to require shareholders to pay tax on the corporate income. (This would not simplify the Code, however). My preference would be changes to the Code so that profitable U.S.-based businesses don't get away not paying taxes.

3. Elimination of the Alternative Minimum Tax. I agree. It should at least be adjusted. A lot of people now paying AMT are doing so because when the AMT kicks in was not indexed to inflation.

4. Eliminate State/Local Tax Deduction. Only as part of an overall revision that eliminates all deductions from income for taxation purposes. By expanding the amount of income subject to tax, rates can be lowered.

5. Territorial v Current International Tax. As the Tax Foundation points out, due to the foreign tax credit, the U.S. really already has a modified territorial system. On this point, I can only say that any tax law that encourages U.S. business to leave the U.S. for low-tax, low-wage countries should be changed.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:10 AM

Kaelin: The historical tax rate tables were interesting. It's true that taxes were lower under the young Bush than under Clinton. Based on the Tax Foundation Table showing tax obligation under Clinton and Bush (which table only goes up to a maximum income of $125,000), at no income level do I deem the Clinto rates as oppressive. What the table doesn't show is how well the super rich have benefited under young Bush v Clinton. No entry, for instance, showing Clinton/Bush tax liabilities for a $1,000,000 income.

spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 159.0 - Posts: 667)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 12:11 PM

Eighty two days till inauguaration day. January 20, 2009. Till then Joe the plumber is safe.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 7:26 PM

Ok. Here goes.

I am completely for the national sales tax and the dismantling of the IRS. I am for April 15 being just another day. I am for a higher sales tax on high dollar items and incrementally lower sales tax on lower dollar items, and I get to choose which I want to buy, and therefore what sales tax rate to pay.

I am for no fed sales tax whatsoever on food, baby items, children's items, school supplies.

Lower fed tax on vehicles that are crossover or are built to use different fuels.

I know there are negatives to this plan. But a tax code that is 7,000,000 + words has got to be worse.

Two pluses to this plan that I really like are - drug dealers now pay taxes, and there is no need to cheat to try to hide your case income. Everybody - EVERYBODY pays. I'm thinking revenues will rise. Obviously that's just an opinion. And I realize this is a very simplified version. Greater minds than mine (ok, everybody) can work out the details.

Just think - April 15 as just another day to stop and smell the spring flowers.



jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 7:27 PM

*cash income. Sorry.

phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 9:25 PM


OMG can we just drop it!?!

Doesn't matter anyway since ALL the candidates are owned by both corporate america and overseas sponsors...

and nothing ANYONE wants to see done will occur in either a timetable that is agreeable, or in somes' eyes, AT ALL!!!

DAMMIT...JUST DROP IT ALREADY!!!

lblewis
Lblewis  (Level: 47.0 - Posts: 31)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 9:31 PM

This counrty has had it socialist moments for years. In one example and word: subsidies.

The problem with many is how do you think we are going to pay for this debacle we are in. We can't rely on the government to do it all. We as Americans are going to have to stand up against the policies of the last eight years and band together to get our country back on track.

The richest in this should pay more, that is right in line with the "trickle down theory" The middle and middle lower class are the backbone of this counrty and it is time for the rich and our government to give us a break.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 10:54 PM

LBLewis,

I would almost agree with you, if you changed the following:

You said We as Americans are going to have to stand up against the policies of the last eight years and band together to get our country back on track.

Change the words last eight years to last 20 years and I'm with ya on that part.

My problem with a lot of the rest of your statement is how gvmt tends to define rich. And, should a significant portion continue to pay nothing?


kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 10:57 PM

You're both right.

The last eight AND 20 years.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:01 PM

So we both agree that Reagan is the last one to get it right?

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:14 PM

Math is hard.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:18 PM

8= GW 8 = BC 4 = GHW = 20....

AM I right? Or were you saying 28 years total, to bring the last GOOD president in your opinion to Jimmy Carter?

Just checking to see if I got the math right.....

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:37 PM

Oh gawd, the Carter presidency was awful. But whatever economic debacles his administration was responsible for, it didn't involve the corporate kiss-up and the attempted eradication of the middle class that has subsequently been inflicted upon us.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:41 PM

Maybe we could just eradicate it all, back to the Raw Deal of FDR.

He's the one who started a significant amount of today's Government Intrusion.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:44 PM

During the Carter administration, when I bought a house, it was a VA loan for 16 3/4% interest rate. No comparison.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:46 PM

Yeah, but my Grandpa's CD's were earning double digits as well.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 28th Oct '08 11:49 PM

Touche'. Or touchy.

newyorkgoomba
Newyorkgoomba  (Level: 214.9 - Posts: 58)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 12:51 PM

This nut job's posts are so lame, so tiring, so shrill....keep pushing the misinformation, nastiness and after a while, people give up.....while I am not following my advice right now, why not just ignore his whacked out frothings and let the thread sink off the page!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 1:09 PM

I quit my job today. Let the redistribution of wealth begin. I'll have more cheese please.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 1:18 PM

How do you quit a job as a cat?

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 4:14 PM

I'm really at a loss for those of you who see the topic, open the thread, run through the posts and then ask for them to cease. I'm really enjoying them - and I'm not even American! I'm definitely learning a lot about American politics from here though. I may not agree with everyone but I definitely agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion.

We have all learned by now that if we want to avoid a thread, we don't open it! I haven't visited any of the succession threads (numbers, letters, words, etc.) because they don't interest me. This does. Why do I have to lose out on intelligent, thought provoking discussions just because others don't want to read them? JUST DON'T READ THEM!!

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21605)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 4:42 PM

This post most likely does not belong on this thread as know nothing about politics and never have claimed that I do. I, like Lisap, have learned much from the intelligent posts here-clear which ones they are very clear on both sides. To carry Lisap's thought a step further I believe some people open a thread after seeing who started it just so they can disagree Some people have made some kind of statement, i suppose, by refusing to post recently on "Salty Dog" I do commend the Editors here-surprise- for not posting here as editors ofrr blocking or deleting this thread. If you are tired of politics or sme people's posts-DON't OPEN the THREAD. How complicated is that? Linda

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 7:35 PM

Curious Newyorkgoomba ,

To whom is your label "nutjob" directed?

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 8:07 PM

This has generally been a kindler, gentler thread and perhaps has created informational dialog.

My name is bbear and I approve this message.

Daddy -- it is over yet?

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:04 PM

Roses are red, violets are blue,
On November 5th it'll all be through..

I'm chilling the champagne...
Any takers?

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:17 PM

Roses are red,
violets are overdue,,
Some are undecided,
Illinois is Blue.

Don't really care,
bout what your agenda or what you consider a sin,
Let's just hope,
may the best man win.

On that last thought,
may we just reflect
tis better to care
than to just neglect.

So on this my dear sploofusers,
I beg you take note,
Express your opinions,
but PLEASE VOTE!!!

Burma Shave,

Me.

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:23 PM

And....roses are red and violets turn grey
Voting is a privilege and not a job I say


So cast your ballot and give a big cheer
May the best man win....and I'll have a beer.

Burma Shave too

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:27 PM

Texas is red
California is blue

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:30 PM

Ahem...

Texas is red
California is blue
If all goes right
Ohio is too

not burma shave

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:32 PM

Do people in Burma shave?

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:32 PM

Texas is Red.

California is Blue.

Rasmusin and Zagby

Say Obama's lead's down to two.


Go John.



texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:33 PM

Instead of having
The USA wrecked,
I pray to God,
For the "Bradley" Effect.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:36 PM

Texas is red
California is blue
Rasmussin and Zagby
Alone hold that bagby



gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:37 PM

Roses are red, violets are blue
Obama is leading and that really true.

No sense in whining or crying my friend
The best man will win on Tuesday

The End

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:38 PM

Tex...that was SO WRONG on so many levels dude.

Me.

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:39 PM

Ever tried cow-tipping?

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:41 PM

It may put him in a bad MOOOOOOD

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:46 PM

With the price of milk, I'm not tipping any cows.

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 9:49 PM

Your're right and that's not a MOOOOOOOT point.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 10:22 PM

Vermont is red.
Utah is blue.
I may be colorblind,
But then the suggestion that the Bradley Effect will work on me must be completely untrue.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 10:25 PM

My understanding of the Bradley Effect is that registered Dems may be likely to claim to support Obama simply to avoid being called a racist.

The point being, that they may oppose Obama for completely non-racial reasons, but may CLAIM to support him simply to avoid the chance of being called Racist.



sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 10:31 PM

I believe that an opposite effect may occur, in that folks might say they're voting for McCain, when in fact are voting for Obama, in order to not freak out their racist friends.

texlewee
Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 10:41 PM

So would we call that the Bubba effect? Maybe the Bubba effect and the Bradley effect will cancel each other out.

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 29th Oct '08 10:59 PM

Just realized your cow is white and black.......Very interesting....

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.2 - Posts: 2770)
Thu, 30th Oct '08 4:34 AM

There's a shipment of tea due to land in Boston this morning.


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