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Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 2nd Dec '08 9:53 PM


To be honest with you, I'm just curious about what everybody expects to get from this group. Erin0620 popped into this group and thought it was my group because I was posting so much!!! Lol. I don't know if this group should really have a leader, I was just trying to start conversation, trying to get to know you all. Quite frankly I would prefer not to be the leader, or to even look like one.

I know that boards regarding the fundamentals of who we really are could possibly become very heated due to the fact that philosophy, when it is practical, can be very political. I'm trying to forsee the possibility of conflict on these boards, and not sure if it were to come up what would be the best way to handle it?

When I talk about philosophy with my girlfriend for example, who strenuously disagrees with me at times, I try to remind her that you aren't learning about the "truth" you are only learning about ME right now, that she may in fact be more right than I am. I tell her that I'm not trying to change you.....just trying to give you some skills when it comes to living with me. I just view this banter as a way for all of us to get to know each other, and learn about various viewpoints.

I don't want others to feel that I am dominating the boards, or the direction of the boards. Sometimes somebody posts something and I don't get what is being said, or even "grasp" the relevance, which may give away something about my immaturity or skills as a philosopher, which is why I take the board towards something I do understand. If you feel that I'm dominating or trying to lead or steer discussion my way, when I'm not, I would like some suggestions about how to do it better. If you feel I'm not "getting" what you are saying, repeat yourself!! Slap me in the face until I do!! I don't want to try and change anybody. I like the differences between us......I would love to learn more about Sunny's views, and Salzy's views, and have half a minds wit when it comes to understanding half of what Danny says at all, lol. Really, I view philosophy as a discussion MERELY.

I have an intense interest in philosophy, that much should be clear by now. I don't have any interest in changing your views or making you more like me. For all I know that would leave you worse I want some thoughts, suggestions, hints, about how to discuss philosophy without me dominating the boards. Perhaps, it is merely because I have more free time than y'all. If that's the case, maybe me "dominating" the boards can't be helped.

I was also wondering, what does everybody expect to "get" from this group?

That question I can answer at least....
What I expect to get from this group is knowledge and merely better skills as a philosopher.

The other two involved in this post were: How to handle bickering should it arise? And, If I am going to spend so much time in here it looks like I'm the leader, how to do it better, without squashing minority voices or steering everything my way......these are just things I've been wondering and worrying about. Suggestions? Thanks.

Luvnmexsun  (Level: 147.4 - Posts: 711)
Tue, 2nd Dec '08 10:18 PM

Jeremy, Jeremy, need to worry so much. Believe me, if I need your attention, you will know it!

I believe the same is true for everyone else. Our group is an impressive list of minds and strong people and interestingly diverse. I think you have had more time than I have had the last couple days to post. It's probably true of most others.

I am here for fun. I love to think and grapple with unanswerable questions. I love to learn new things. I only like one thing more than ideas...people. A philosophy group gives me both.

I really appreciate your leadership in setting up posts...responding, etc. If you want to be an arbitrator, I have no problem with that. I don't know that we would need one. Seems to me this group would self-correct or simply say what's on their minds.

You'll hear plenty from me, I promise. Thanks again.


Luvnmexsun  (Level: 147.4 - Posts: 711)
Tue, 2nd Dec '08 10:24 PM

Oh...there is one thing you could do. Stop cheating in word rounds and matches.

And I will start a thread called the suggestion people can add ideas about how this group could be better, etc. Like Pat's suggestion to split up long is easier on the eyes and reading. It can sit there until someone needs it.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 2nd Dec '08 10:25 PM

Lol, thanks Sun.....I do worry. I guess thats something you'll learn about me, always anticipating things that may never come up.....everyone tells me how silly it is. Still, hearing about what people expect to get from the group could give us new ideas about what direction to take everything in....

Oogie54  (Level: 210.8 - Posts: 1120)
Tue, 2nd Dec '08 10:28 PM

I have no problem with you being the catalyst for discussion, whatever the topic, and I would probably offer more if my typing skills weren't for shit. As far as what I get from the discussions, perhaps to learn more about others and how our ideologies compare, to give and get some insight as to the human mind's workings and how we all relate to each other on some levels and differ in others, and as Sun can attest to,I am full of shit,so discussion is a sort of exorcism that is necessary to vent occasionally,else I might explode. To be frank(or francine) I don't have any intentions of swaying anyone's thinking one way or the other, just a participant in profound dialogue.

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Wed, 3rd Dec '08 1:41 AM

I posted this in another thread but after reading this thread, I realized it probably made more sense here so I added it.

I don't offer my beliefs from the Christian's viewpoint to change anyone's beliefs. If it should happen, great, but that is not my goal. I am not here to save souls (need to worry about my own first!) but to share my personal beliefs. I might quote an occasional Bible verse, but I don't intend to load this thread with dozens of scripture quotes.

I am finding the challenges or questions to my beliefs to be beneficial to me. I have to dig deep into my memory for some information I've learned along the way and I have to think about how I want to explain it and I might dig into some of my reference books for refreshers.

So question away!

Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Sat, 13th Dec '08 10:10 AM

I started the group yet I do not speak so much so I am grateful that Jeremy can encourage debate.

Oogie54  (Level: 210.8 - Posts: 1120)
Sat, 20th Dec '08 10:45 PM

I'm finding the Taoism of Pooh to be more comforting on a personal level

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