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Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5235)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 1:41 PM



Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2297)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 1:54 PM

Good. Should have happen 10 years ago.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:01 PM

if it had happened 1 years ago, he would have got Life.
Those murders wre BRUTAL

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:04 PM

Believe it is actually 16-life with a possibility of parole after 6. Thought the judge tried very carefully to covver al,l her bass so the case would not be viable on appeal-like stating she was sentencing on this case on not any other aspect of his life. She was also careful to give the other defendant the same sentence avoiding the charge that OJ had been singled out. Of course, I am sure the race card will be played-3 African-Americans were excused by the prsecution from the jury. The hopeful thing for me is that the Parole board are elected officials and in Nevada don't believe they will be influenced to parole OJ. Echo many in saying ABOUT TIME!! TSK,really expect you to disagree wit me and the judge and jury on this-getting used to that LOL Linda

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2476)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:10 PM

Its about time. That man should be in jail.
And race card? Thats what you got out of this? Really?

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:18 PM

It was the Racecard that got him off the first time!!!!
Reverse Racism....

AND what do people in Los Angeles know about the
difficulty of putting on leather gloves, even without
latex gloves underneath???

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:23 PM

Penn, I said that because the pundits are talking about ANYTHING OJ might use to launch an appeal. This is something factual but won't be viable either if it can be shown that the jurors were excused for cause other than race. Another theory is that his attorney was incompetent because he didn't accept a plea rather than go to trial when everything was on video and tape. That won't work though if it was OJ who insisted on going to trial thus making it no fault of his attorney. With OJ's ego and past events that seems more plausible. You had better believe that Everything in the book will be considered in trying to launch an appeal and that includes race. Believe it or not saw on TV outside the courthouse people carrying placars saying, "FREE OJ" go figure-Linda

Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:30 PM

Ron Goldman's father was standing in line before dawn to be in the courtroom and watch Simpson shackled and led into the courtroom. Fifteen years is nothing. He'll be out in 6 and writing another book. Based upon his passed performances, he'll be back in court again on more charges. He's just a user and a loser. Hope he has a great Christmas with his tin cup and 5x8 cell. Justice prevails.

Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 2:34 PM

About the gloves....I live in Chicago...My leather gloves get wet....they dry....they don't fit...Simple enough. Shrinkage does happen in more than one instance. I can't believe everyone fell for that stupid excuse. I gotta go...I have to shovel snow and my gloves don't fit; so I need to go shopping..

Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 3:58 PM


1. No doubt in my mind that OJ should have been convicted earlier for the murders. I suspect he probably would have been too, but for the acquittal of the white cops who gang-stomped Rodney King shortly before the OJ trial.

2. Haven't really followed the OJ robbery case closely, and even if he has a meritorious appellate issue, I think his chances of getting his conviction reversed -- because of the murders -- is extremely remote. That said, there is a U.S. Supreme Court decision that held it to be unconstitutional to exercise peremptory challenges in criminal trials solely based to remove African-Americans from the jury. Typically, at some point outside the presence of the jury, the prosecutor now gives some on the record reason for exercising a peremptory challenge to excuse the African-American if that may be an issue. There may be a case out there going the other way, but I'm personally unaware of any cases in which a reversal occurred on this issue where the prosecutor did not admit to exercising peremptory challenges solely based on race.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 4:06 PM

LOL so good to hear from you, TSK . It would have been such a disappointment for me if you hadn't checked in. You give the facts and since most of my life has been governed by my emotions, that is refreshing for me-thanks-Linda

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2765)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 4:19 PM

Just another case of The Man bringing my people down.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 4:41 PM

In 1995, O.J. Simpson was found "not guilty" by a jury in Los Angeles CA.. Whether he did or not had nothing to do with the verdict today. I followed his entire trial back then and would've agreed with the verdict then and I still go along with it. According to CNN, he will be eligible for parole in nine years, I say he'll get out sooner (maybe 3-4 years).

O.J. Simpson led a dream life up until 1994. He wrote his own ticket on everything in life because the American public has this idolization thing with anyone who can hit home runs , score touchdowns or any other game they can fantasize themselves playing. People in Chicago worshipped the ground Michael Jordan walked on, I wouldn't turn my head to look at him (and I had my chances). If O.J. would've used some type of manager that he could trust, he wouldn't be where he is now.
Like others have said, he'll write a book with a lot of pictures and be out in time to collect Social Security and be eligible for Medicare. To quote Alonzo Anello in "The Bronx Tale", Talent is a terrible thing to waste.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 5:25 PM

I can only say GESUS, BIll!! Linda thought we all lived on the same planet at least........

Bleepy  (Level: 148.6 - Posts: 625)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 5:25 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..............................................................................................

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 5:28 PM

Do agree with you on the idolatry thing though-totally how the other fool who got convicted with him goit sucked intoi it. Linda

Ehodgson  (Level: 136.8 - Posts: 64)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 9:33 PM

I hope when OJ gets to the big house his cell mate wants to "play house" and OJ gets to be the Momma ....

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 10:21 PM

He will probably switch from "Running Back" to "Tight End" in the slammer. Either way he'll get a few more yards before he gets out.

Alvandy  (Level: 241.6 - Posts: 7717)
Fri, 5th Dec '08 11:01 PM

a local doughnut shop chain based in York, PA got a lot of mileage back in 1995 during the trial with this gimmick slogan.

FREE OJ! [if you bought a dozen doughnuts].
I wonder if the billboards will show up again.

OJ's idyllic life has fallen so far!

Crazy4games  (Level: 124.7 - Posts: 1019)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 2:01 AM

This is the BEST news!! It was a long time coming.

Lettermanfan1  (Level: 88.3 - Posts: 486)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 10:06 AM

Now they need to throw him out of the Football Hall of Fame. Seriously. Or did they already? This guy still makes my blood pressure zoom off the charts.

Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2297)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 10:18 AM

Gerry - You have a new slogan??

If the gloves don't fit.....
you must go shopping!

Smaug - you da man

Mplaw51  (Level: 184.8 - Posts: 1581)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 10:25 AM

I agree with Bill. We all knew/know he was guilty but money buys anything and his lawyers dazzled the jury with their brilliance. Something the defense sadly lacked. They introduced doubt and that was all that was necessary. He was guilty immediately in the civil suit because he was GUILTY! The travesty was OJ continuing to go on and on about his innocence. He's got a date with the devil.

Diva305  (Level: 153.4 - Posts: 1656)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 10:49 AM

Don't have to see his FUGLY FACE in Miami!
My son, an attorney, had an "encounter" with him; my daughter, a prosecutor, had his daughter's, Sydny's case. Know stoopid-ass Gallanter-"Sit down Mr. Gallanter"


drop the soap

Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 11:05 AM

He self induced his own karma, silly man

Kaufman  (Level: 269.7 - Posts: 3943)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 11:37 AM

All the world's problems, and we're paying inordinate attention to this case?

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 12:06 PM

Diva, any thoughts on Goldman's father ?? His daughter and him look like a set of vultures. He's been making money on his son's death since it happened, even quitting his career. Not a bad deal, collecting on a son that you kicked out of your house.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 12:34 PM

Think TSK said it best. Everyone knew he was guilty including the jury but the Rodney King thing angered Black folks thus the verdict. Of course money plays a huge part in everything including the "dream team" he had. Just cannot believe though, Bill, that the rather "chicken shit" charges would have been brought against him this time if everyone in law enforcement and elsewhere wasn't just waiting for this great moment. Also totally disagree with you-believe he will die in prison like he deserves Haven't done any research on Goldman but really doubt he was ever poor in the first place. More power to him and his family for any financial gains he and his family have made. Linda.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 12:53 PM

Kaufman, would really be interested in what world problems we should discuss. I have already expressed my concern over the "bailouts" and where anyone reasonably expects the money to spring forth from. Other than the current puzzles which I never comment on in the forum-believe quiz writers not given like priviledges- (know puzzles are a one day shot thing but the quizzes move so rapidly and the search feature by author is still broken so they suffer the same fate) just what other earth-moving matter should be put here?? P.S-at times send puzzle authors a pm as I do the folks whose quizzes I take-Linda

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 1:11 PM

Out of curiosity-what happened to the separate forum that was once much talked about for the puzzles? Taking them which I most often do is usually fun but the endless comments about them on "Salty Dog" is a complete BORE. In truth, my temptation is to say soimething like "Hated it-totally SUCKED" whether that be the truth or not. My guess is that the separate forum thing went the same way of all the other promised but never deliverecd things here-NOWHERE-know this is off topic of this thread but the comment about OJ being trivial compared to other things discussed here lead me there-my bad-Linda

Stellamirus  (Level: 192.4 - Posts: 56)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 2:07 PM

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Better late than never.

Kaufman  (Level: 269.7 - Posts: 3943)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 4:13 PM

I'm not going to recant what I said. If it were anyone else who'd gotten convicted and sentenced for such a "minor" crime other than perhaps Britney, nobody would care whatsoever. And yet everyone is dancing around like this is the wonderful event of the century. Someone was convicted of a crime and was given an appropriate-seeming sentence. Shouldn't be news. No more than a footnote.

I may be a cynical, cranky, jaded, self-loathing old bastard, but I don't get my jollies from this happening to anyone, no matter how much they may have earned it. Besides, OJ just isn't worth that much of my attention.

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.4 - Posts: 3843)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 4:41 PM

I am with Ken on this. Anything to do with OJ, Britney and the rest of pop culture that is fodder for supermarket tabloids does not affect my world. I hope references to bailouts is aimed at banks and financial institutions. The car companies are not asking for, seeking or being considered for bailouts. They are being considered for loans.

As for world problems worthy of discussion, here is a started list.

War -- pick one of several
Religious fundamentalists who want to force their beliefs on others -- pick from several types
Global climate change
enough for starts.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 4:49 PM

And yet, here you are complaining about us.

Pathetically, I remember where I was when the not-guilty verdict came down.

These are a lot of years of drama. It's not like the man just disappeared. He kept himself in the news. There was the situation with his kids. He still owes from the civil judgment. There are still specials about him and his arrogance.

He thought it was ok to take a gun into someone else's room and hold them against their will. He believed himself above the law (as many rich and famous do). Humanity likes to see justice, especially when it was NOT served so many years ago. Allow us a brief time to express relief that a murderer is no longer free to murder or hurt anyone else out here. As long as he was out here, that was not true. If there's nothing to see, stop looking.

That being said, we love you Kauffee.

Kaufman  (Level: 269.7 - Posts: 3943)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 5:22 PM

"Humanity likes to see justice."

And I hope to see the day when humanity EXPECTS to see justice.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 5:31 PM


(This message was not intended to force my fundamentalist religious beliefs off on anyone.)

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 5:37 PM

Here Here, Jank. The auto companies can call them loans all they want to but with no possible way in the forseeable future, they are "BAILOUTS. Don't believe the financial community should have gotten them either. I am more than sure I would make a horrible politician. That being said lets offend a whole bunch of folks and argue/discuss something less controversial than OJ like the attributes of one religion over another or no religion at all-you start. Tuzilla or Ken! The reference to "dancing in the streets" takes me back to the comments made with the "comings and goings" in the recent political threads-be VERY sure you want to go there as there are still open wounds-Linda

Bigbird  (Level: 250.2 - Posts: 3345)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 5:50 PM

Guess it might be time for me to write the third in my OJ crimes quiz series....

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 6:23 PM

I did write one on the first trial as "Heidi" Even though that person quit the quiz still exists and you can get it by typing in the "Advanced Search" box America Divided - OJ Simpson and the Trial. I can currently get no points from people taking it nor can it hurt me if folks take it and "BOMB' me nor will I see any comments you might make unlesss you direct them to caramel1- rather liked my efforts on this one-Linda

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2765)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 6:29 PM

""And yet everyone is dancing around like this is the wonderful event of the century.""

Seems a tad of an exaggeration. Only a cynical, cranky, jaded, self-loathing old bastard would say that.

""Someone was convicted of a crime and was given an appropriate-seeming sentence. Shouldn't be news. No more than a footnote.""

Don't moral people take some solace in a rebound of karma? Only a cynical, cranky, jaded, self-loathing old bastard would argue with that.

"I may be a cynical, cranky, jaded, self-loathing old bastard,...""

Well, okay then......

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 6:36 PM

LOL you and your remarks are priceless, Smaug-even though your barbs have occasionally been directed my way Linda

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 7:43 PM

BTW, Ken, you are NOT old!

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Sat, 6th Dec '08 8:45 PM

No, 47 is not old by my standartd. One can be old thinking without beinng old chronologically though-make comment on the rest of his tatement. Safe to say we travrl on different planes or wave lenghths-Linda

Maniact44  (Level: 16.6 - Posts: 39)
Tue, 23rd Dec '08 6:12 PM

got to love the justice system

muder people ran away get off

steal your own stuff and your going to fry

major lesson to robert blake

just cause you got away with murder dont think you can go into the grocery store and eat a grape

you will fry

stealing objects is unthinkable

stealing a life (oh well it sorta happens)

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 24th Dec '08 5:32 AM

Here's hoping OJ fumbles his soap! Happy Holidays!

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