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baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 4:27 AM

THE REAL DEFINITION OF WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT A SPORT.

OK here is the definition of a sport,

A sport can be defined by any game where what a player does can be directly influenced by someone else.
It is NOT a sport where a player can play the game on his own.

eg of sports (football, rugby, hockey, tennis, snooker, bowls, basketball, baseball)
NOT sports (darts, walking, figure skating)

Anyone else know any other definitions of a sport??

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3301)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 5:28 AM

I'm not offering a definition, but I'm taking exception to yours! How's that for nerve? By your definition bowling and ice skating would not be sports - what a bowler or a figure skater does (assuming skating singles) is not affected by anyone else. They do their own thing. I would sure consider them to be sports, however.

But then, by your definition pairs skating would be a sport?

Needs a better definition.

Course, I will add that I don't particularly care about the definition - I think most of us know a sport when we see one.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 6:03 AM

This lengthy reply is from dictionary.com and isn't the only answer either....

sport   /spɔrt, spoʊrt/

–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
6. an object of derision; laughingstock.
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything.
8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc.
9. a sportsman.
10. Informal. a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well.
11. Informal. a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler.
12. Informal. a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant.
13. Biology. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation.
14. Obsolete. amorous dalliance.
–adjective 15. of, pertaining to, or used in sports or a particular sport.
16. suitable for outdoor or informal wear: sport clothes.
–verb (used without object) 17. to amuse oneself with some pleasant pastime or recreation.
18. to play, frolic, or gambol, as a child or an animal.
19. to engage in some open-air or athletic pastime or sport.
20. to trifle or treat lightly: to sport with another's emotions.
21. to mock, scoff, or tease: to sport at suburban life.
22. Botany. to mutate.
–verb (used with object) 23. to pass (time) in amusement or sport.
24. to spend or squander lightly or recklessly (often fol. by away).
25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat.
26. Archaic. to amuse (esp. oneself).







alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.4 - Posts: 7561)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 6:35 AM

A sport involves the spirit of COMPETITION. Going further, record keeping; statistics; equipment; team work and sense of fair play and "sportsmanship" can be components of a sport.

That seems lacking in Baggiob's definition.



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 6:41 AM

I think if we use the broadest possible definition of sport, as the category does, instead of trying to limit and exclude what we don't know or like, the whole controversy instantly resolves itself.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 8:09 AM

I can't wait to get a question in the Sports category about "jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry" or "mockery; ridicule; derision"!

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 9:50 AM

AHA! I knew sarcasm was a sport!

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 10:13 AM

Let's see,,,,,,,,,,Sex with a partner would be a sport?

Sex without a partner would be a hobby?

chyenn
Chyenn  (Level: 202.6 - Posts: 1332)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 10:47 AM

"25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat. "

Per that definition, can we expect sports to include questions regarding the latest fashion statements by Lohan, Hilton, Spears and their ilk????



Personally, i'm a fan of the Wiener Dog Nationals but i haven't seen a question regarding that sport yet... http://www.sctoday.com/dogdays/rules.php

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 11:06 AM

Yeah my original post was not meant to be conclusive (was just waiting for others to chime in)

Bigbird: Re: bowling, that would be a sport because the person who has bowled before you has meant that you now have to chose a differnet shot from what you would have done had the other persons bowl gone somewhere different to where it now is.
Although this would not matter in ten pin bowling.

Alvandy if a sport must have some level of competition then does playing Monopoly mean you are partaking in a sport?? I would have thought it was at best a past-time.

I think most people could debate the real definiton of a sport until the cows come home.

I personally just think that if you can do it on your own then it is not a sport.

Heres a thought, no matter how good you are at tennis, you will never be better than a wall!!
haha

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.0 - Posts: 2301)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 11:08 AM

So solitare is not a sport buy honeymoon bridge is?

So Sploofusing is or is not a sport? I mean you play alone but really are playing with and against a bunch of folks, right?

spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 158.7 - Posts: 667)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 12:01 PM

According to the dictionary meaning above...

3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.

Then Sploofusing IS a sport. The TQOTD could be. First name of the individual who invented the web site, Sploofus .com?

We all know the answer.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 12:11 PM

bbear you may be playing against other people on Sploofus but not DIRECTLY, yuo may be trying to beat their high score, or fastest time or whatever. BUT if someone takes 20 seconds to take a quiz that does not directly influence you to go faster or slower on it.

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 1:10 PM

If billiards is till in question as a sport, and we use the definition above "a sport can be defined by any game where what a player does can be directly influenced by someone else" then I would opine that billiards IS a sport. It's not always what shot you make but what shot you leave.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 5:35 PM

Well said lisap

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 5:41 PM

It don't belong in Sports Soup

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 6:18 PM

Waiter, there's a billiard ball in my soup!

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 6:33 PM

Snicker, snicker, snooker, sucker.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 7:31 PM

Serenity Prayer

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
the courage to change the things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Amen

That be said, snooker and half a dozen or more things are listed in sports, it isn't going to change, stop worrying about it.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 8:42 PM

Don - Sex with a partner is not a sport, because trust me, ONE of you is not hoping to beat the other to the goal line.

BUT, sex with someone ELSE'S spouse/significant other becomes by definition a sport because you are competing with that spouse/SO for the attention of the one you are with....unless said spouse/significant other doesn't CARE if the person you are having sex with is having sex with you. Then it's just a hobby.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

NOW - what's the difference between a "game" and a "sport"?

When your fave football team wins, you say they won the GAME, not that they won the SPORT.

??????

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 8th Dec '08 9:00 PM

Jank, you make it sound so simple. Thank you for clearing this up.

Onward and upward

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 1:44 AM

I vote we do what they did in Trivial Pursuit....
Just call the Category - Sports and Leisure!!!!
Done and Dusted !!!!

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 1:50 AM

Rowlanda would that mean it would incude sunbathing as that is very leisurely . haha

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 8:02 AM

Now see, in Hollywood, tanning would be a sport, because it is VERY competitive. Though no one can catch George Hamilton - they retired his robe number.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 9:03 AM

I wish there was an emoticon for "snort" .... retired his robe, thats good stuff!

maniact44
Maniact44  (Level: 16.6 - Posts: 39)
Tue, 23rd Dec '08 5:52 PM

I AM GOING OUT ON A LIMB AND I AM SAYING SPLOOFUS IS A SPORT

I DARE ANYONE TO DEFY THAT



papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Tue, 23rd Dec '08 6:17 PM

Sports Soup, Physical Science, Geography, World Events and so on. This site better change some of the questions and categories or I'm going to blow this pop stand. I know that the editor who played around with me in German said there wouldn't be any changes, $79.00 is $79.00.

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.4 - Posts: 7561)
Tue, 23rd Dec '08 6:17 PM

Maniac 44 is correct in my opinion.
Examples of "sports "is very broad.

This link from Wikipedia does have a "sport load" of examples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports

Sploofus is a SPORT
The game's afoot!





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