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btsyshsbnd
Btsyshsbnd  (Level: 73.3 - Posts: 61)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 3:21 PM

CITIZENS OF ILLINOIS REJOICE!

The governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich has been arrested on charges of corruption. There's dancing in the streets. I just wonder why it took so long. With apologies to Harry Belafonte I offer the following. Blago, Bla-a-a-go I'm in jail an' I wanna go home.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 3:48 PM

Would hate to be on any list he was considering for the Senate seat once occupied by Obama. Hearing now that the legislative body is trying to iniate some kind of election for that so he cannot appoint anyone or, indeed, himself as it seems he also considered-Linda

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 3:56 PM

What a moron, here is from the Yahoo article
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209/ap_on_re_us/blagojevich_corruption_probe

but a few highlights....
"We were in the middle of a corruption crime spree, and we wanted to stop it," U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said, calling the charges against Blagojevich "a truly new low." He added: "The conduct would make Lincoln roll over in his grave."

Federal investigators bugged the governor's campaign offices and tapped his home phone, capturing conversations laced with profanity and tough-guy talk from the governor. Chicago FBI chief Robert Grant said even seasoned investigators were stunned by what they heard, particularly since the governor had known for three years was under investigation for alleged hiring fraud.

The FBI said in court papers that the governor was intercepted on wiretaps over the last month conspiring to sell the Senate seat for campaign cash or plum jobs for himself or his wife, Patti. He spoke of landing a job with a nonprofit foundation or a union-affiliated group, and even held out the possibility of a Cabinet appointment or ambassadorship for himself.

"I've got this thing and it's (expletive) golden," he said of his authority to appoint Obama's replacement, "and I'm just not giving it up for (expletive) nothing. I'm not gonna do it."

Blagojevich also considered appointing himself to the Senate seat, telling his deputy governor that if "they're not going to offer me anything of value, I might as well take it,"
prosecutors said

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 4:09 PM

As a voter in Illinois....It seems as though the only elected governers we have had recently are either in jail, going to jail, or hoarding "shoeboxes" full of money.
What is so attractive about Illinois that everybody wants to be governer and be on the take?

Sidebar...Some politicians want our former governer Ryan to get an early release from prison. He's served 1 year out of 6 years. The pardon request has gone to the desk of lame duck Bush. Think they might want to keep him in a little longer?

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.4 - Posts: 7560)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 4:17 PM

The governor's brazenness and corruption mentality is appalling.
I don't live in Illinois, but it's embarrassing for its citizens and will cast negative light on the President-elect [via guilt by association].


Just what we need!
If he's guilty, he [Governor Blagojevich] should be impeached.




caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 5:36 PM

You make a good point, Al. Pundits are already citing ties that the Governor had with some union or the like that were strong Obama backers. Most in fairness say that Obama didn't really seem to like the Governor much. There is evidence of at least one phone call between them discussing the open Senatorial position thoughj. Don't believe that Obama will be actually pulled into this mess but the stigma is there. Politics seems to be an ujgly thing with all the lobbying and people that politicians "owe" once they are elected because of the enormous expense involved. Interesting thavt the chairman of the House Ethics Com. is under investigation for his lack of ethics. These are the same folks who plan to somehow install a "car csar" that can run an auto industry that has been declinig in US markets for years-go figure-Linda

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 5:50 PM

As a devout Illinois Democrat, I am proud to say I voted for Blago and I'll bet he don't do a minute behind bars. The way he's walking around in the Loop even has Wolf Blitzer confused. Isn't it amazing the wrong doing that goes on around Senator Barry,
He can't go to church, buy a house, talk to a teacher or be replaced on his job without somebody getting indicted. Life is sure complicated in the Land of Lincoln.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 6:11 PM

Just when you thought politicians couldn't get any dumber ...

The good news is this should blast Illinois past New Jersey and into the #2 spot on the A.P. Corruption Poll.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 6:33 PM

Once again all I can say is "Gesus", Bill!! Linda

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 8:09 PM

Hey...careful there...I contributed over $1,000,000 to Blogo.

HIP HIP HORRAY!!

Senator Chick!!

Me.

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 9:57 PM

Actually, I'd vote for you...and that's scarey.


jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 9th Dec '08 10:29 PM

Do you hafta be impeached if you're serving from a prison cell?

Well, the one honest statement the guy made was "I'm not gonna do it." Sure enough, he may not. OJ's original lawyers are all gone, right?



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 2:48 AM

To answer your question believe that not onlyt did Mayor Curly of Boston served while in prison but was also reelected-so much for any ethics I hoped politicians might have. This sociopath was just the final straw-Linda 8

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 2:58 AM

Guess the Boston mayor's name was spelled Culey-no matter his whole career in whatever capacity he was serving was corrupt but folks loved him-speaks to the public's intellect-Linda

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 8:18 AM

Curley served four terms as Mayor of Boston (1914-1918, 1922-1926, 1930-1934 and 1946-1950).
Hopefully people have more sense now.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 11:30 AM

WOW The Attornety General of the State of Illinois just admitted that she was "#2 on the list that the Governor had compiled. It seems like now at least he has no intention of resigning. She said that if he does not and the legislature does not begin impeachment procedings, it is within her power to go to the Illinois Supreme Court and declare him unfit for his office. She too denies that she had had any other but passing contact with the Governor. This knowing someone but not "knowing" someone seems to be a huge part of the "political machine" operating in that state. I am dumbfounded... Linda

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 12:12 PM

How many times are we going to hear that we took something out of context, I was misunderstood, misquoted or I miss spoke. I am afraid all of Americans are going to have to listen to for four or eight more years. David Axelrod was quoted on video saying his office was in contact with Blagoyovich about the senatorial appointment, Obama said his office never talked to
Blago. Later Axelrod said he miss spoke ??? Isn't this the same barracuda that set Obama up for the presidency ??? I can see it now, Obama nuking a country and later telling the world that something was taken out of context. Somebody better get this Blagoyovich of the hook quick or January 20, 2009 is going to be a very awkward day.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 12:44 PM

Could not agree with you more this time, Bill. Seems like Obama didn't really "know" anyone in Illinois!! Linda

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 6:08 PM

What causes a person to deny doing something even though there is legal, recorded evidence to the contrary?

Too many believe in the theory that it's only a lie if you get caught and there's undeniable proof that you can't come up with good enough argument to have it thrown out of court...and the appeals, of course.

Same as "I did not have sex..." (as only one example of many on all sides of the aisle) and when there was a blue dress and DNA evidence, all fury attacked the person who proved he lied, while people went out of their way to protect the truly guilty party. How does that happen that people believe an idiology that is untouchable by provable truth (on both sides of the aisle).

As things go, without God, or with God in PC words but not in spirit-filled action, apparently everything is gray and there is no absolute truth any more. No right and wrong.

Now there isn't even provable/unprovable...

There's only "I'm in the mood...I'm not in the mood," "I've got enough money/power to buy my way out of it....I don't have enough money/power, etc."

1. I'm sad that this type of things happens all over the place, in all political parties.
2. I'm sad we're not even shocked by it any more.
3. I'm sad that this kind of thing carries down right into our states, our cities and towns, our workplaces.....our families.

The only silver lining I see is that this type of thing has happened over and over in the past...and our country still stands. It hasn't destroyed us. I've never bought into the "that which doesn't destroy us makes us stronger" line. I have enough people around me who weren't destroyed but who have been deeply weekend by stuff. I don't expect anybody to quit this illegal behavior because of this arrest. Same as drug pushers don't quit when one is arrested. There are several slimy cockroaches to take their place.

Oh - I'll share this with you. Today, one of my little girls who has missed 2 days of school this week, came in all sad. Bless her heart. Her 20 year old cousin was shot and killed last Friday morning early when the owner of the car he was trying to rip the radio out shot him after warning him that he had a gun. The cousin still refused to stop ripping out the radio, and now the family is without this young man. But there was not one ounce of feeling about her cousin doing something wrong in the first place. She only spoke of how horrible the car owner was for shooting him. AND how her cousin's friends were going to take care of the guy who shot him.

I'm sure drugs had nothing to do with that mess. And I'm sure if drugs were legalized, the young man would have come up with the money to buy drugs legally so as not to rip off someone else's property. (Hopefully you know me enough to recognize my heavily dripping sarcasm in this statement.)

No, for the record, I have no idea what will happen legally to the car owner who shot the cousin.

I hope and pray that somehow a good education (and even musical training, as this student is way above average in musical gifting - she's already playing as well as my 3rd year students after she has only played for 3 months) for my student might start a tradition of reaching higher in her family. I have other bone-chilling stories from just the past 3 months about this child and her family. So it will be an uphill battle for this child to climb out of this type of situation.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 9:11 PM

Just figured it out. Chicago politics is run by the Mafia only they aren't Sicilian or Italian. It is amazing all these controversial folks that seem to appear on a weekly basis that Obama used on his way up but now doesn't seem to really know. The governor's wife along with some guy now doing time helped Obama in getting his Chicago home. One pundit said that if you are not from Chicago you have no hope of ever understanding how these people/families/politics are linked. The taped conversations by the governor do as much as anything to clear Obama of any wrong doing in this particular scam. Do believe he is making a huge mistake by not saying that at least Rob Emanuel had some contact about the now open senate seat-of course he had imput. If that governor "rolls" as he most likely will to save himself believe all kind oof past unpleasant things will be revealed. It will certainly overwhelm anything else he attempts to do at least in the near future. The Lord better save him if he tries to fire that prosecutor as is his choice when he assumes office. Linda

loveland
Loveland  (Level: 55.2 - Posts: 521)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 10:26 PM

It's amazing that 3 govenors from Illinois have served prison terms since the 1970s.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 10th Dec '08 10:30 PM

Linda, Obama and Blogo were on complete opposite sides of the party. Now Ritchie Daley ...whole nuther story. Sumpin tells me there is sumpin fishy with the fact that Ritchie didn't call for Blogo to step down....very interesting.

Me.

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Thu, 11th Dec '08 4:36 AM

Chickie, I think Blago has them both by the short ones. He's way to cocky and this Fitzgerald is a big JO, too.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 11th Dec '08 4:56 AM

Interesting that youy say they are on opposite sides of the party when Obama was Blago's campaign manager for at least one election for something. Now Emanuel comes from Blago's former House seat-wehole lot of incest going on in Chicago. Know the higher ups have been trying to "distance themselves" from Blago for quite some time after his corruption got so "wingnut" The pundit was correct though, Chick, don't understand the "Chicago Way" and how it has been tolerated for so long. Even folks who knew nothing about him offering the senate seat for the highest bidder certainly were aware of other wrongdoings. With Obama's promise to clean up politics believe it was incumbent on him and still is for him to report the guilty ones -bit sticky if that includes himself though, I suppose. The bubble of the "Great One" has certainly been burst or is about to be. Don't believe he will get the long honeymoon he once might have anticipated - Linda

btsyshsbnd
Btsyshsbnd  (Level: 73.3 - Posts: 61)
Sat, 13th Dec '08 10:36 AM

The only way Illinois will ever clean up it's politics will be to get rid of Chicago. Spin Cook County and everything North of it into a new state, maybe called The Soviet Socialist Republic of Daley.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 13th Dec '08 10:53 AM

I saw the list of O'bama replacements. Which Jesse Jackson Jr. were they referring to?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Sat, 13th Dec '08 2:02 PM

Whichever one it is, the young one, I believe, you can bet he is not guilty of anything-that family never is even when they are caught on tape, camera, or with the proverbial hand in the cookie jar. The Reverend has angered me for years with his appearances at almost anything controversial where he might get his picture on TV. What he says, in my opinion, basically equates with ranting rather than anything on topic-Linda D o I indeed rant?? LOl


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