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Tuzilla  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 3839)
Sat, 13th Dec '08 11:12 PM


When you take a quiz, do you read the quiz description? I usually take time and write detailed descriptions, but it seems for naught. A couple of my recent quizzes, Musical Journeys and Musical Journeys -- More, absolutely need people to read the description in order to have a chance of making sense of it. All the info you need to do the quiz is right there in the description. However, I am getting comment on the quiz and as PMs clearly indicating that a fair percentage of people are not reading them. Along with the "I don't get it" comments, the ratings are obviously suffering. Maybe I should do like a lot of other folks and just type in Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sargon  (Level: 112.9 - Posts: 1256)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 12:17 AM

In some of my descriptions I would note that the questions were lengthly to warn speed demons before they took the quiz. There would still be folks who would complain about my wordiness.

I guess it gave me some satisfaction to write a polite "I told you so" reply to their comments.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 7:00 AM

Steve, I used to get complaints on my quizzes and Ker-blunks every once in awhile and they are a pain, same thing with my word puzzles. Lately, I tell them, if you have a complaint to write it here, so everyone can see their problem. Getting a PM from a player who thinks they can be a part time editor isn't what I want to read at 4 a.m. anyway. Your quizzes are top

Mplaw51  (Level: 184.4 - Posts: 1581)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 7:03 AM

I always read the descriptions. The sense of the quiz is contained there. I'm with you both on this.

Scifidwarf  (Level: 147.5 - Posts: 249)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 9:13 AM

I always read the descriptions. Sometimes the quiz doesn't work the way you think so it is important. I have also advised about lengthy questions for those who are all about speed. Trust me, the descriptions aren't for nothing. Those who don't read them are just going to have to deal with a low score.

Bbear  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 2297)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 9:41 AM

I also write details, especially with the squares, because people seem to think I am trying to trick them when the case is I am just trying to get as many words in a square as possible.

As far as squares, I never do them without pictures, never take them if they don't have pictures (which means I don't take hardly any) and never input less than twenty possible answers. Just me.

I totally understand what you are saying about trying to warn people if your quizzes are wordy. I really, really like the wordy ones; they are the ones that teach me something.

Speed demons be damned; it's the long ones that are helping to stave off my ALzheimers!

Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 11:52 AM

Steve, I have had the same experience. I will keep writing detailed descriptions, which I am confident that some people never read. I have gotten many comments from people complaining about a quiz, and you wonder why they even took the quiz if they read the description. I actually prefer fewer takers to people like this and in preference to people who rate quizzes based on how well they do on the quiz.

Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 12:03 PM

I just took your "oo" quiz and found the description much too detailed and confusing

OK seriously - I like detailed descriptions - there's nothing more frustrating than starting in on a quiz to find out it is completely different than what I thought the title meant. A good description helps in that regard - and it is also sometimes makes me decide to take a quiz I might have otherwise stayed away from.

Lancaster  (Level: 228.1 - Posts: 176)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 12:51 PM

I prefer detailed descriptions.If some are too lazy, or too much in a hurry they should take responsibility for their actions.

Tuzilla  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 3839)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 4:46 PM

Miriam, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments, the only problem is the complainers are usually also low raters.

Bigbird  (Level: 249.1 - Posts: 3337)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 5:41 PM

I always read descriptions, and I wish that the Word Puzzles could have descriptions. Both as a Platinum author and as a solver it frequently would be nice to be able to write a description/see a description other than the clue phrase.

My biggest problems with my students in school came from their not bothering to read instructions. They soon learned!

Kaufman  (Level: 267.9 - Posts: 3941)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 9:00 PM

Then again, sometimes half the fun of the WP is figuring out what it's about and how the title relates to it.

Tresgatos  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 4413)
Sun, 14th Dec '08 10:27 PM

I always read descriptions, and the quizzes I tend to enjoy best are the ones with accurate, precise descriptions. And it doesn't bother me at all if descriptions are long -- they generally add to the fun, as long as the writer doesn't ramble on and on talking about stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the quiz, like hey ... did you know that cats have free-floating clavicles? This is partly what allows them to be so sneaky and stealthful. So ... now, where was I?

I like Alice's idea of descriptions for word puzzles. They could be optional, of course. I do agree that a lot of times part of the fun is figuring out if and how titles help you decipher a WP. But descriptions could add another dimension -- allow for more flexibility and for more complicated and cryptic puzzles that authors might not try otherwise.

-- Geri

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 15th Dec '08 10:02 AM

I have to give myself a BIG kick in the ass
when I don't read the preamble, and later
find the author was looking for the negative
answer, rather than the obvious one....
It's like reading the recipe for chocolate cake
AFTER you accidenly made a meatloaf....

Btsyshsbnd  (Level: 73.3 - Posts: 61)
Mon, 15th Dec '08 1:25 PM

hmm, I think from now on I'll put the answer to one of my questions in the description. is that allowed?

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 15th Dec '08 6:38 PM

Only as an example....should not
be one of the actual questions.
Thank you....

Scifidwarf  (Level: 147.5 - Posts: 249)
Tue, 16th Dec '08 9:01 AM

Tsk. People have also complained to me about the length of my questions, even after I advise them in the description. This leads me to believe they don't read the descriptions which they. I have written several history quizzes which are filled with information and if speed is a big deal then they shouldn't take my quizzes. It is important to read. I like the lengthy quizzes because I learn a lot and I love to learn so don't quit writing them just because one or two people complain. There will always be a complainer in the bunch.

Scifidwarf  (Level: 147.5 - Posts: 249)
Tue, 16th Dec '08 9:04 AM

Bigbird, I have to comment on your last post. I am glad you mentioned your students not reading instruction. I work with 3rd and 4th graders and they never read read the instructions. It is inevitable that one will tell me "I don't understand how to do this." When I ask them if they read the instructions they look at me like it is a new concept. Suddenly things seem much clearer after reading.

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