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Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Wed, 15th Mar '06 10:10 PM


What do you Sploofusers think are the best PC's to buy? I am tired of Dell. I want an AMD processor. I've looked at Hewlett Packard. They have good deals. But when it comes to HP, which is better, the Compaq or the Pavilion?

The internet doesn't give much help when looking up consumer reports on PC's.

Greyghost  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 640)
Wed, 15th Mar '06 11:39 PM

Run,Run Far, Far, Away from H.P.,i had to replace 6 towers in one year.They buy the cheapest stuff they can buy.I finally had one built.Best thing to do,then you can add what you want.Hope this helped,tc.

Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 853)
Thu, 16th Mar '06 7:53 AM

I'm getting a Mac next. Everyone I know raves about theirs and the customer service is supposed to be pretty good.

I'll take 'pretty good' any day, after dealing with Dell for the last three months. What a customer service disaster! And my computer still remains problematic after four service calls and countless hours on the phone! If there is one pet peeve I have, it's lousy customer service. Dell is great at 'lousy'.

Suzer22  (Level: 166.3 - Posts: 1982)
Thu, 16th Mar '06 12:11 PM

I love love love my Mac! And now that they are being built with pentium processors, my brother (who works at Intel) can't tease me anymore!

The Mac is much less susceptible to viruses (as my brother says, "People who write viruses want to hit the most people, so why bother with Macs?"). Also, the ability to deal with graphics and video editing is much better.

However, there are certain internet games and websites that I have trouble with...card playing games go rather slowly and the cards won't overlap, for example. But I have no problems with Sploofus!

Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.4 - Posts: 295)
Thu, 16th Mar '06 8:29 PM

Try a mac. The ease compared to the pc is pretty amazing. I run one at home and one at work and I never have to deal with the support people. All of my pc colleagues are always having problems. My macs just seem to work and work. Plus, the operating system is very nice. Safari is a great browser, too.

Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Thu, 16th Mar '06 9:42 PM

I'm on a budget, and most mac's I see when shopping online are out of my range.

Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Thu, 16th Mar '06 9:48 PM

Plus, I'm into playing computer games (when I have time to get away from sploofus!) and I have noticed that a lot of them require Microsoft Windows OS and not MAC OS.

Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.4 - Posts: 295)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 12:23 AM

I believe you have a point about the games. I try to stay away from most games because I know I'd become addicted--so I don't really know. However, if the price is the problem, you might want to check out the mac mini. They finally put out a low priced computer. It's about 6 inches square and far more powerful than any of mine!

Mskillian  (Level: 65.1 - Posts: 226)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 12:43 AM

Another vote for the mac...just got one - LOVE IT!

There are so many more things you can do on a mac vs what you can't do, it is amazing.

You can get a MacMini for around 400 bucks if you keep your same monitor. Mac keyboards cost around 30 bucks.

Fri, 17th Mar '06 1:31 AM

I guess I'll be the turd in the Apple cider punch bowl here.

I can not verbalize strongly enough against a "Mac". I've dealt with Windows, Linux, Solaris, BSD, Mac OS, and many more. You do not want to assist the Apple endeavor. Are you an AOL user? These companies sponsor absolute segregation of the Internet community and will not stop until the total demise of any web standards can be realized.

Run from the HP and the Mac and get you a Toshiba laptop!

Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 10:39 AM

Well, no offence to the mac users, but I wasn't gonna get one anyway. My school uses PC's, my online classes ask specifically that you use Windows OS, nearly all software I require uses Windows.

Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 10:42 AM

What other Desktop PC's ARE good then?

Suzer22  (Level: 166.3 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 11:05 AM

OK - so no Mac - but why not a laptop? I use a laptop exclusively...I keep it on my desk's keyboard trya dn when not in use I fold it up and hide it away!

Whan I travel I take it with me...I was workign on my taxes the other day and needed to take my son somewhere...decided to get the car washed so I just picked up the computer and took it with me!

When I took a class in Hawaii (yes I was lucky enough to have a college course one summer in Hawaii) I did my homework sitting out on the beach!

Can't say enough good things about having a laptop...and NO desktop computer!

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 6:18 PM

I'm with sploof - Mac's blow. (Isn't that what he said?) I had one for about a year at work and what an unholy bassackwards freak from ACH EEE Double hockey sticks. My friend upstairs in the chem department has a brand new one and she still has trouble viewing all the movies & clips on the internet. She has to come down to my office to see anything because a lot of the things are not compatible with the MAC system.

What's wrong with Dell? That's all I buy now. 4 for my office, 1 for home, and 1 for my daughter at college. I have had several different computers over the years including a ghastly packard bell, and the Dell has been by far the least trouble and the easiest to upgrade.

Have at thee, Mac Lovers. I'm already wearing my garlic necklace and have a squirt gun full of holy water.

Suzer22  (Level: 166.3 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 7:17 PM

eesus - look at my first message here..."brother who works at Intel"...I've been taking guff for being a mac user for can't possibly say anything to hurt my feelings or change my mind

BUT, I graciously accept that we are all different with different needs and different reasons to like different things! So, "to each is own" is fine by me! AKA "if you don't like it that leaves more for me!" (Can you tell I came from a family of FIVE children and not just the one bothersome brother?)

But, I do insist that you spell the letter "H" as AITCH!


Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.4 - Posts: 295)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 8:15 PM

Ah Eesusbejesus, I guess the chemistry just isn't right for you! Just don't slosh any of that water onto my keyboard. I've lost too many to those PC squirters.

A couple of years ago when I used netscape and ie browsers I had lots of trouble with various media, too. I never seemed to have the right plug-in. Safari and the newer quicktime seems to have changed that. I haven't run into a site in quite a while that I can't access. There are some sites like MSN games that won't let me use them with a mac (I wonder why?) but there doesn't seem to be many.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 9:08 PM

Oh Suzer, I wish I had checked with you first. I was struggling with the "aitch" and just couldn't make it come out right. I kept trying to spell ache. Maybe because I still have the flu and I still ache everywhere.


Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 853)
Fri, 17th Mar '06 11:04 PM

Oh Lodi... my pretty little Dell laptop has been a nightmare. I can honestly say that I have nearly pulled my hair out, pulled my husband's hair out, and been *this* close to throwing this machine in the trash... all because of the incessant runaround I've gotten from about twenty of Dell's finest customer service reps.

Never, ever would I recommend Dell because of the customer service. It's not so much the product, because anyone could get a dud computer... but the way I have been treated is just unbelievable. Interstingly enough, I was so frustrated during one two hour phone marathon that I typed "Dell sucks!" into my Google toolbar and a few websites popped up, all devoted to lousy customer service reports by Dell users. I have not added mine yet. Consumer Reports gave Dell a pretty poor rating for service recently.

And back to Lulise-- I agree with Suzer... I have absolutely *loved* having a laptop! It's awesome to take this out back and Sploofus while my kids play in the yard. And I like taking it along on vacation, too.

Machiabelly  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 190)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 9:18 AM

My first computer was a Dell and for almost 5 years it worked perfectly, never had to make a call. Then my RAm went bad, and since it is propriitary RAM, it would have cost me almost as much to replace the RAM as buy a new computer.
I ended up getting a "frankenstein" from a local store that I heard good things from. Got a good deal, and so far so good.
Still, I have reccomended Dells, and still do.

Ehodgson  (Level: 136.8 - Posts: 64)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 11:42 AM

I'd agree with Machiabelly about the proprietory components.
I've had many computers over the years and the only one I hated was a Compaq. Couldn't even put a generic operating system on it. Same thing with Dells.

I would say that the brand name doesn't matter. If you aren't familiar with computers ask someone who is to check out the specs.

I just bought an HP as my newest one and am pleased with it although I did take the modem and sound card from the old computer as well as remove most of the software that came with it.

Again, check what's in the box.


Tmj302  (Level: 53.5 - Posts: 129)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 1:34 PM

Have you checked the consumer reports online for computer ratings? Sometimes that will help given what specifics you want in a PC.

We did have a Gateway, and I hated it. And Gateway customer service was no help.

Thankfully, I have a computer nerd in the family, and now that I've had to deal with PC problems, I can troubleshoot myself.
Now we own a new Dell desktop, and the only gripe I have is that it is nearly impossible for me to use any messaging (Yahoo, ICQ, etc.) because of all the security. I have to spend 20 minutes turning off all the detectors just to use MSN Messenger. But, I have never had popups or even SPAM.
My mom has the Dell laptop, and it has been a pain in the butt - of course, my 4-year-old likes to use it, so there may lie the problem.

My computer nerd aunt and best friend who is also a nerd & programmer don't like Mac. Again, if you need certain programs, the Mac can't do it.
As far as cost, I don't really know what would be a good choice for features/good price.

Consumer Report link:

Tmj302  (Level: 53.5 - Posts: 129)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 1:50 PM

Sorry, I just re-read that you didn't have luck with consumer reports!

Have you looked at & have the consumer opinions of PCs, too, with all features listed. (I love Amazon)

I checked with my nerd buddy, and she uses the HP Media Center m1080n. Her old computer is also a HP, and she just adds components when there is any problem. She said the main thing with HP that is problematic is that you have to download updates and specific drivers from websites instead of it coming with a disk - but that's not too bad.

I don't know if we've been any help at all, but I always check the nerd websites for tech info!

Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 4:12 PM

thanks for everyone's input. I still haven't decided what I want yet, though. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Not really an easy task to pick the right computer.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Sat, 18th Mar '06 5:33 PM

If you live in a big enough area, sometimes buying from a local computer store rather than a big name brand, will give you better costumer service if something breaks down. You tend to pay more for the computer and since they usually buy different parts from different companies, you can sometimes run into problems with certain parts not being 100% compatible with others, but at least you have the option of picking it up and dropping it off on someone's desk.

We all get good computers and we all get bad computers, sometimes regardless of the brand. One bad experience might turn us off forever, like the people who swear by Ford cars and some who because their dad had one break down in the 70's, will never drive a Ford ever. (I'm not a Ford driver folks, just an analogy). I think it all comes down to overall consumer satisfaction and your personal preferences. I have had some horrible experiences with previous computer brands and then great luck with my Dells. No breakdowns and I have been able to purchase and interchange & upgrade parts myself, which is saying a lot because I don't claim to be a computer geek. However, I'm fickle and if I have one bad experience with a Dell, then watch the horizon for a Dell bonfire.

I guess I'm not the best person to ask for advice after all.

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.4 - Posts: 3843)
Sun, 19th Mar '06 10:27 AM

The first thing to do is note what your primary uses will be.

If you are a graphics designer or photo editor. Go with Mac. Macs see everything, even letters and numbers as graphics. Makes them slower for crunching data, better at graphic applications.
If it is anything else, go PC. I like AMD. I am using one now. Most of the computers I have used in the past 25 years have been hand-built PC family computers.

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