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caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 8:00 AM

HERE IS ATTOPIC FOR CONSIDERATION

I smoked almost my entire life. Now no longe4r do, but do not find others' smoking offensive unless in a very small enclosed area. That even bothered me when I was a smoker-the main reason now i chose not to be around smokers is that the smell of smoke for very long still makes me want a cigarette.I smoked long enough to remember getting 3 pennies taped to a pack of cigarettes after inserting a quarter in a vending machine. I also remember smoking in the Doc's waiting room when I was pregnant with my children as well as the hospital room after they were born.. When I was still teaching, there was a lounge where teachers could smoke-but talk was beginning even then that might go. I was also a smoker when I could no longer smoke on airplanes nor reraurants nor in certain hotel rooms and remember resenting that. Didn't l;like in Ca. so didn't pay much attention when smoking was banned on the streets. Had quit smoking before someone decided that folks couldn't smoke in apartment buildings because smoke drifted into other apartments. Alsop was no longer a smoker when places like hospitals quit setting up an area for smoking personnel and visitors and insisted they leave the property. Now it seems there is dispute in Kentucky that renters cannot smoke in homes they rent as they are not the owners. Studies pretty much have shown that it is most likely better fr you if you don't smoke and probably most smokers realized that before they were ever told. There is some huge amount of money set aside to help folks quit smoking. The new child health care thing is funded by an increase in Federal tax on a pack of cigarettes. Logically it would seem that if folks stopped smoking-kid's health care would have no funding. Am finding that many things that n politicians do when confronted by logic make absolutely no sense - Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 8:20 AM

Could have been wrong about it being Kentucky whoi wants to make it unlawful for folks to smoke in the home that they rent-some state does though. It is Kentucky that has a representative proposing a bill that would fine parents who dd not attend parent teacher conferences-might that solve the problem of public schools-guessing it will more likely lead to more unpaid fines like parking tickets or if a real issue is made of either of theses much work for attorneys and the ACLU folks will have a couple of new causes LOL- Linda

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 10:33 AM

Guess I can understand a landlord not wanting a renter to smoke in the house. About the only way to get rid of that smoke smell is to paint over it. Anyone with severe smoke allergies might find it hard to rent a place where heavy smokers had lived.

I can at least understand people your age who smoked, because the cigarette companies weren't forthcoming with the dangers of smoking in the years when you were young. If it hadn't been for my mother, I would have been one of you, most likely.

What I cannot understand is why young people today begin smoking when they have had the dangers of smoking hammered into their heads from the day they entered school.

One day I took my grandchildren to the nursing home to visit someone. When we came out an elderly woman was sitting outside the door smoking a cigarette. When we got in the car, my grandson - then probably 8 - asked me why that lady had yellow spots on two of her fingers. I explained to him that was because she was smoking and when she held the cigarette in her fingers, the tobacco in the cigarette colored her fingers yellow. He asked if they washed off and I said no, they were permanent stains, like a tattoo.

When we got to their house, he went right to the telephone and called his mother, who lives in another town. I'm sure she was puzzled when he immediately asked her "Mom will you promise me you'll try to quit smoking so you won't get yellow fingers?"

So far she hasn't quit.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 10:55 AM

As a partial answer , Pat. Because cigarette smoking is legal and huge profits are made from the tobacco industry- dare I say lobbyists-, probably lead to slowness of reports have become that it might not be conducive to good health. The labels on cigarette packages did not make a whit of difference to me nor did the warnings of my dad who had been a chain smoker all his life and was dying from emphasezma (sp). I could never understand how some people could be occasional smokers like one of my sons as with me once I had one was off to the store to buy a carton or two regardless of the cost. Studies are coming out now trying to figure that out. I know that stopping smoking was among the hardest things I have ever done and without the use of Chantix would have failed in my 100000 attempt. Believe athletic folks realize long before-even back in my day-that cigarette smokers were shorter winded because of that were poorer performers in many sports, long before the health folks had a clue or were perhaps willing to say so - another thing don't believe there is a simplistic answer to and will most likely die by being hit by a gas guzzling diesel fuel polluting Mack Truck before anyone figures it out and has the courage to say so or the podium from which they might be heard- Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 11:59 AM

Just realized my first post didn't show. I concerned some law trying to be gotten through about banning smoking in homes by renters as they were not the homeowners. Also made reference to a guy in Ketucky introducing some kind of bill to fine parents who did not attend Parent-teacher conference. Solution to the problem in public schools-probably more likely lots of fines like parking violations that will go unpaid and perhaps couple of new causes fr the ACLU if they can figure out which is the popular side to back-Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 12:04 PM

Also noted that the huge sum, of money justedc passed whatever one chooses to call it contains a very large amount devoted to helping people quit smoking. The Child health Care things depends on the increase on federal taxes on cigarettes so if the plan to help people quit makes sense and works, then Children will have no funding for their health care-so much for logic in politics-Linda

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 1:30 PM

Well, there's your problem, Linda. When you use logic and politics in the same sentence, they cancel each other out!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 7:55 PM

This is why I stick to hash.

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 8:56 PM

Rum & Coke

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.4 - Posts: 1684)
Sat, 14th Feb '09 9:14 PM

I'd just rather spend a few hours visiting with my friend Mary Jane.

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sun, 15th Feb '09 11:31 AM

I used to visit with her regularly.

diva305
Diva305  (Level: 146.7 - Posts: 1651)
Sun, 15th Feb '09 5:57 PM

Mary Juana


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