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Dougal1970  (Level: 9.8 - Posts: 15)
Tue, 21st Mar '06 8:14 AM


I am in a bit of a pickle,After submitting a number of quizzes containing lyrics from various years. I am recieving conflicting advice from different editors about citing my sources in the description etc.
I am NOT complaining, ALL the authors have been brilliant. But I am still confused to wether I should be doing this or not?

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Sploofloops (Editor)  
Tue, 21st Mar '06 8:40 AM

Good morning!

I apologize for the conflicting advice you've received.

My reason for asking you to cite the source for the lyrics quizzes is simple. The groups of songs and their lyrics have been compiled by someone, and work they have done in presenting the lyrics to you as part of a group should be credited.

Listing song lyrics as part of a quiz (or movie quotes, for that matter) is considered "fair use" and does not always require citation of the source. No one owns the lyrics/quotations; anyone can recite them without effort from memory. If you had compiled your own original list of songs for a quiz, I would not ask for a source to be cited. However, when groups of the lyrics (or movie quotes) are used and are taken from a list compiled by someone else, the source must be credited. It's always better to err on the side of caution when it comes to copyright matters, I think.

I hope this explains why I have asked you to cite the source as part of the description on these lyrics quizzes. If not, please feel free to ask.

Dougal1970  (Level: 9.8 - Posts: 15)
Tue, 21st Mar '06 8:48 AM

Thanks for that, It's just that I have had messages off other editors asking for me to remove the source (or doing it for me) rather than return the quiz to me.
I hope you can understand why i'm a little confused
Thanks again

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 21st Mar '06 9:17 AM

Consistency amongst the editors would be nice. I haven't submitted that many quizzes but I've had a couple come back with some bizarre requests that were inconsistent with the way I had written past quizzes and inconsistent with most of the past and future quizzes I had taken.

Sometimes it can leave you wondering "why me?"

Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Tue, 21st Mar '06 10:16 AM

I have talked to a couple of other quiz authers on this matter and we hae all noticed a difference in the editors. One will not a single punctuation error past while another will just correct it but would return it for a different reason. I think this is understandable as some will have strengths in one area more than another.

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Sploofloops (Editor)  
Tue, 21st Mar '06 11:22 AM

We all strive to be consistent. It's quite difficult to get everything right all the time-- there are more than a dozen of us with different backgrounds and that sometimes makes it a challenge.

We have tried to come up with uniformly accepted rules for grammar, punctuation, and capitalization for quizzes. If you have not already done so, please read the SQAG here:

Some issues are just going to be more difficult, as they depend on the individual editor's point of view. For example, one of the quiz rules is "The question must pose a trivia challenge". We will all consider some topics more challenging than others, so it's hard to be as consistent about that than about beginning quiz questions with a capital letter.

As for some editors sending minor errors back for corrections and others correcting them for you, this boils down to how many quizzes are in the queue and how much time we have to edit the quiz. I have corrected typos and launched the quiz without mention to the author and I have also sent quizzes back asking for spellcheck or for the writer to review the SQAG. If I have 88 quizzes after yours in the queue, chances are I will send it back to you so I can go on to the others faster. And if someone repeatedly submits quizzes in all lowercase letters without any punctuation whatsoever, that person is getting their quiz back!

Copyright violation is the number one reason for the editors-- because each day, someone inevitably tries to copy a quiz from another website and turns it in as their own. This is NEVER acceptable, and all editors agree on this one, you can be sure. We may not find 100% of these plagiarised quizzes but we do get 99.9%. Copying text from online sources, simply removing a noun and replacing it with "Which" or "What" constitutes plagiarism as well.

Again, I apologize for the confusion and "inconsistency". We do discuss matters like this as they come up so that we can improve. Thanks for bringing this up.

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