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Caramel1  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 21652)
Sat, 7th Mar '09 8:00 PM


Seems that the Tamarisk tree which is abundant in states like Texas is a really water guzzler. It is drinking up more water from the Colorado River per year that the combined cities of Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and a third one I can't remember. This is serious because draught conditions exist. Now the Environmental folks are weighing at the cost of billions whether they should unleash some kind of bug or beetle that will eat those trees.. Their dilemma is twofold: can they replace the Tamirisk with a like environmental type tree and can they relocate some kind of bird that makes the Tamarisk its home? Gesus give me a BREAK.... Linda

Tuzilla  (Level: 137.5 - Posts: 3792)
Sat, 7th Mar '09 8:28 PM


Oogie54  (Level: 203.8 - Posts: 1120)
Sat, 7th Mar '09 8:34 PM

They can come get all the Kudzu down south that was brilliantly proposed as soil erosion control, til it grew over everything in sight.

Lucimoore  (Level: 185.6 - Posts: 1701)
Sat, 7th Mar '09 8:39 PM

Please not before the Kudzo blooms and we trek out in our overalls and bare feet to pick the little red Kudzo flowers and make some of that thar tasty jelly.

Caramel1  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 21652)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 3:04 AM

Steve, not sure if your "NO' meant it did not make sense to you either or that you were not going to give me a break-just clarifying as we have not always been on the same page- Linda

Collioure  (Level: 107.5 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 4:53 AM

Linda, where is the cost-benefit analysis of this proposal ??????

Surreyman  (Level: 264.6 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 5:07 AM

We have a current similar problem in the UK.
A Mediterranean bee migration has reached Scotland.
These are a ferocious type and are killing off the indigenous honey bees.
Thus, numerous native Scottish crops, plants & trees are not pollinating and have died off.
This has seriously hit some ingredients for Scotch whisky.
You will thus maybe already be noticing that Scotch prices are steadily increasing.
This has cut Scotch consumption, and already the alcohol-related crime rate in Glasgow has halved.
Nature works in wondrous ways!

Collioure  (Level: 107.5 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 5:57 AM

Birds, bees . . .

It's always about sex, isn't it?

Surreyman  (Level: 264.6 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 6:37 AM

We just had a club meeting last week where some eyebrows were raised when the Treasurer talked of "Sex expenses".

He was referring to "Sec's" (Secretary's) expenses!!

Collioure  (Level: 107.5 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 6:43 AM

Well, that's very expensive.

Bigbird  (Level: 243.2 - Posts: 3318)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 7:30 AM

Seems to me that science should have learned by now that introducing non-native species is always a problem. We've got the zebra mussels in the Great Lakes, the Gypsy moths munching on our trees, and purple loosestrife all over the place.

But if you really want to be concerned about our water supply - take a look at the ridiculously electrified city of Las Vegas, or all the folks who grow grass on their properties in the California desert (Palm Springs, etc). That pulls a huge amount of water out of the Colorado river system. Huge. What is the cultural conceit that makes us grow a grass lawn where there should be cactuses and yucca and dust? If you want a grass lawn, you don't belong in Palm Springs. We need to learn to live with the native species, and not waste immense resources.

Caramel1  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 21652)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 7:32 AM

Scotch prices is a SERIOUS issue. Water getting to cities is also serious and don't believe unleashing the beetle that would eat the Tamarisk would be. What I can find no justification in my mind at least is spending huge sums of money on how one can replace that tree with a like species-my assumption would be that the replacement would consume so much water-or worrying about where and how to relocate some damn bird- Linda

Caramel1  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 21652)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 8:45 AM This article expands and approaches it from a slightly different view but all of this takes me back to a very successful commercial from years gone by where we are warned "it's not nice to mess with Mother Nature'-someone brought the Tamarisk here as it was not native to the US in the 30s to help with the Dust Bowl thing-guess they helped correct that but now have become a whole other problem themselves. Linda

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:54 AM

I (regretfully) agree with Steve on this one. Linda, you'll always ROCK!

Eileeny  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 240)
Sun, 8th Mar '09 11:09 AM

As per usual when you get to the base of it all humanity is to blame... we are all to blame in one form or another of sucking this planet dry !!! very sad..

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