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Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3845)
Thu, 19th Mar '09 12:29 PM


J.D. Powers released their survey of vehicle quality for the first 3 years of ownership. It is formed from a huge database of information. Buick is tied at the top of the list with Jaguar as the most reliable vehicles on the road. The Buick Lacrosse was named the best vehicle overall.

This is a much better measure of vehicles than those initial quality survey that hide a myriad of problem that can pop up after that new car smell starts to wane. While initial quality surveys are good at catching a loose screw here and a maladjusted fit there, the 3-year survey catches the records of bigger, more costly problems like faulty brakes, transmissions or engines..things that become recalls.

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2475)
Thu, 19th Mar '09 2:27 PM

Thats good to hear!

Alvandy  (Level: 242.0 - Posts: 7720)
Thu, 19th Mar '09 11:06 PM

Congrats to Buick Division

Buy American- Canadian /Union Built Vehicles

Not a bad stimulus concept.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 4:55 AM

yes - but Steve....have you checked the info with SNOPES????

Kaufman  (Level: 269.9 - Posts: 3941)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 6:41 AM

A bit tangential, perhaps, and maybe I have some Missouri blood in me, but maybe 15 years ago out of nowhere, I first heard a car ad saying "According to JD Power ..."

I still have no idea Who The Heck Are They, what credentials they have, and why should I care any more what they think is a good car than, say, any one of you. Just because a name is said authoritatively isn't good enough for me. Can someone clue me in?

Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 7:17 AM

The only thing more fun than car shopping is having someone tie me up in a sack and beat me with a sharp stick, so when I needed to replace my Ford Crown Vic and gas prices were starting to become an issue, my friend and I researched on line, while talking on the phone. The LaCrosse was highly rated in safety trials and I want something that will take me from here to there. I made a list of what I was looking for (it was short), put it out on a dealer network around here and my phone rang within 5 minutes. We drove to the dealership, spoke with the saleswoman, drove it around and I drove it home 3 days later. I love my La Crosse and it's been a honey to drive. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 689)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 7:35 AM

I think the only thing better could be having a car salesman tied up in a bag on the front seat and a sharp stick! Or an investment banker...

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 10:37 AM

Until last year I was a member of the Power Poll and had to fill out a questionnaire on the cars that I own. It was a very long process involving all aspects of comfort, convenience, reliability, repairs, etc. It also covered age, driving habits and maintenance. Overall, it covered everything pertaining to satisfaction and reliability of the brands, I consider it the most accurate of all the polls and that includes Consumer Reports, whose annual poll I also participate in. J.D. Power must not have the same high opinion of me because they did not include me in their survey last year.

Dona  (Level: 215.6 - Posts: 14)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 11:16 AM

Good stuff, Steve. JD Power rates many things (cell phones included) in addition to cars. 46,000 automobile owners were sampled. "Buick and Jaguar (122 Problems per 100 each) tie for the highest-ranking nameplates in vehicle dependability. Jaguar moves up nine rank positions from No. 10 in the 2008 study. Buick, which ranked No. 6 in 2008 and tied for the highest ranking with premium make Lexus in 2007, has ranked among the top 10 since 2003." Lexus had won 14 times in a row so Detroit progress is notable.

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3845)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 11:36 AM

Powers gets their information from a lot of sources, other than just consumers. This particular J.D. Powers poll obviously relies heavily on consumer data, but it can also include stats from repair shops, warranty info, etc.

I don't see snopes having a lot to say about this. They specialize in urban legends.

Consumers Report does a great job of rating household appliances and items like toothpaste and cleaning products, but I do not find their vehicle rating issue of much value. They test a scant few cars each year, then poll their readers for data. It is a totally non-scientific polling method.

They try to boost their credibility by claiming they are non-profit and do not accept ads. That has nothing to do with being biased, which they are to a huge degree. If their assertion were true, then we would have to believe the NRA is unbiased on gun issues...anti-abortion and pro-choice groups treat abortion questions with even hands and environmental and business group provide balanced information on environmental issues...after all, they are all non-profit, too.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Fri, 20th Mar '09 8:30 PM

I agree. Example; For years the Ford Crown Vic, Chevy Caprice/Impala were rated "reliable" while the Mustang, Camaro/Firebird were rated "unreliable", not taking into consideration that the Crown Vic and Caprice were driven by older people who were more apt to drive easier and stick to a maintenance/repair schedule whereas the others were driven by people (like me) who were more inclined to drive harder and maybe skip a few items in maintenance.

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