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1mks
1mks  (Level: 210.9 - Posts: 5883)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 10:24 AM

AS THE DAYS OF HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE COME AROUND.

For those that say it never happened.

http://www1.yadvashem.org/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/mutimedia/index.html



davidf
Davidf  (Level: 102.1 - Posts: 746)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 10:52 AM

Oh it happened, my grandfathers fought to help the allies in that war, from the beginning to the end of the war

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 11:11 AM

My mother, is German and remembers the trains going thru her town and being shot at, (she was dark haired with brown eyes, in a family of blondes) -- while riding her bike, when she was 12.
Horrible, horrible chapter in history.

monkeynips13
Monkeynips13  (Level: 21.5 - Posts: 647)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 11:29 AM

My great grandparents (may they rest in peace) both managed to emigrate to America before the Nazi occupation and I am eternally grateful. My life is so much richer for having been able to hear first hand accounts jof their history.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 12:06 PM

The memorial in Berlin is powerful. Let us not forget.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 1:56 PM

What a pity zionists are treating Palestinians no better than their own relatives were treated. Even Nazis didn't fire white phosphorous at babies. Before anyone accuses me of being anti Semitic, Palestinians are Semites, European Jews certainly are not.

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 2:19 PM

least we forget the suffering of the poeple then and still today it goes on

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 6:10 PM

I suppose you've been told the Jews in Europe in the 1930s blew up crowded buses, launched missiles at towns of German civilians, and tried to deive all the Germans into the sea. Your analogy doesn't hold water.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 6:39 PM

For those that say it never happened? Oh, you mean like that rightwing idiot Frenchman Jean Marie le Pen. I just wish he would disappear. He was on the tube last night, and I asked Odile if his daughter would say the very same things after he passes.

I visited a concentration camp in NE France 25-30 years ago. That and a visit to the D-Day beaches in Normandy two years later on the 40th anniversary were the two most morbid experiences of my life - even worse than burying my first wife.

I think you all know about the concentration camps. I'm not sure I want to visit another one.

At the American military cemetery at Omaha Beach in Normandy there is a sea of crosses and Jewish stars . . . and a sign that tells you that two of every three Americans who died in that campaign are buried in the US.



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 7:17 PM

No, Clevercloggs, they just threw babies in ovens without first even mercifully killing them? You should really find that excommunicated Bishop thayt much to the Pope's embarrassment he just allowed back in the Church- most likely you will find much in common to discuss- Linda

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 26th Mar '09 7:34 PM

Oh, Pulleeeeeeeeeeze, Dave.

The feckless Palestinians? How many decades of investing in terrorism and nothing else?

Dave, can you name one product that is made in the Palestinian territories?

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 2:13 AM

Dave, can you name one product that is made in the Palestinian territories? I am asked.
Can you imagine how difficult that would be with a hostile foreign country controlling your ports and borders ? Palestine does in fact export fruit and flowers, no mean feat from within the confines of a glorified concentration camp.




clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 2:22 AM

No, Clevercloggs, they just threw babies in ovens without first even mercifully killing them? You should really find that excommunicated Bishop thayt much to the Pope's embarrassment he just allowed back in the Church- most likely you will find much in common to discuss- Linda

I find your remarks both ignorant and insulting. Nowhere have i justified the holocaust, or terrorism. I actually find being compared to a bishop, of any hue, more insulting than anything else you suggest. Just because i don't swallow the "Israel good / Palestine bad" propaganda hook line and sinker doesn't make me an apologist for terrorism. I grew up with terrorism, much of it funded by Noraid, it didn't start with 9/11 you know.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 2:42 AM

Israel does not get a free break for life because of the holocaust. Atrocities are just that.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 4:32 AM

Dave, I don't swallow "Israel good/Palestine bad" either.

And I don't accept excuses for the Palestinians who long ago should have negotiated a peace deal and begun to develop their country. Instead they invested in terrorism.

Their fellow Arabs don't even help them.

BTW fruits and flowers is not a "product."

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 5:10 AM

For those that say it isn't happening.
http://stopwar.org.uk/content/view/1154/27/

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 5:20 AM

I have heard that the terrorists in the Gaza Strip actually placed civillians so that they might be killed for propoganda purposes. Any comments on that, clevercloggs.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 6:06 AM

This thread was started as a tribute and remembrance to the lives of those who suffered the horrors of Auschwitz. It's a dark stain on the history of humanity. There are many, I agree. I humbly honor the souls that died in such a brutal, wanton fashion. There are still uncivililized atrocities that are perpetrated on mankind today but for me nothing will compare to what HItler did while the world watched.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 6:08 AM

Barnierubble..
I have heard that the terrorists in the Gaza Strip actually placed civillians so that they might be killed for propoganda purposes. Any comments on that, clevercloggs.

Not really. There is enough ignorant speculation about Palestinians without me joining in. I wonder if we are starting to see why the zionists kept foreign press out now?

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 6:21 AM

The group I am with (driving) will be visiting the Holocaust Museum in D.C., today.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 6:32 AM

Of course, you don't have a comment, Dave.

You'd have to admit what the UN eventually admits when caught red-handed trying to cover for the Palestinians - that like most terrorists the Palestinian terrorists use innocent civilians as human shields.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 11:54 AM

Collioure....
Of course, you don't have a comment, Dave.

You'd have to admit what the UN eventually admits when caught red-handed trying to cover for the Palestinians - that like most terrorists the Palestinian terrorists use innocent civilians as human shields.

............That's assuming the UN representatives haven't been killed by the zionists illegal use of white phosphorus of course. While the murderous zionists are bombing family tower blocks Hamas hardly need human shields. As you can read minds, you seem to think you know what is in mine, i'm surprised you aren't at the top of the Word Puzzle leaderboard every week.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 1:34 PM

Fruit and flowers are not a product? Bullsh*t. I assume you mean that credit default swaps are?

1mks
1mks  (Level: 210.9 - Posts: 5883)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 1:47 PM

If you need to quarrel with each other or discuss your views that do NOT contribute to this thread, please start your own and quit the damn bickering.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 1:55 PM

I agree that this thread has been spoiled, by me and others.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 2:41 PM

I'm sorry, Dave.

I gave you credit for knowing that the Palestinians use innocent bystanders as human shields.

Apparently you are more uninformed than I previously imagined.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 2:46 PM

Collioure.......Apparently you are more uninformed than I previously imagined.

That is not a mistake i will make about you my friend.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 7:47 PM

I tried, Marsha, but the broad hint went so far over their heads it must be travelling in outer space.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 7:53 PM

I'm so sorry the Holocaust ever happened, and I pray we never let it happen again. Thank you for starting this thread to honor the memory of those who were so cruelly treated and murdered. We must always be mindful and never forget.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 8:01 PM

My apologies, folks.

I did not see your gentle suggestion.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 28th Mar '09 7:01 AM

Fair enough. It's a subject i feel passionately about, not something i can pass over easily.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 28th Mar '09 7:19 AM

Then feel free to start your own thread about your passionate feelings. What happened here was like someone defacing a cemetary marker.


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