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Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Fri, 27th Mar '09 11:14 PM


This is late notice, but if ABC's Nightline airs the topic it has scheduled it will be on puppy mills, for any of you dog fans out there. It starts at 11:35 EDT, 10:35 CDT.

A 'Nightline' Investigation of Alleged Puppy Factories, Plus, The Lottery Lady Turning State Lotteries Into Gold

Cujgie  (Level: 183.0 - Posts: 754)
Sat, 28th Mar '09 12:50 AM

Thanks, Pat.

A puppy mill was just shut down recently near Chicago (near me) -- cages full of unfed, unwatered, unexercised "fashionable" lap dogs were stacked on top of each other at least four high so urine and feces trickled down through to the bottom cages. Moms and babies were crowded into too-small cages also in the stacks. The film shown on our news stations was heartbreaking. The owner of the mill was selling the dogs for $375 and up.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Sat, 28th Mar '09 1:17 AM

Glad I saw your notice too late Pat....
These puppy mills should all be
closed down and I don't understand
why they aren't.
Very depressing....

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Sat, 28th Mar '09 5:26 AM

Rowlanda, part of the problem is just as was stated on the TV show last night - the dogs are considered farm animals like cows or pigs, not loving pets and family members as most of us consider them.

Surprisingly these were Amish people in Pennsylvania. The statement ws made that they "debark" the dogs (I won't tell you how - it's too gruesome) so they can have as many as 500-600 dogs in a barn and no one knows about them except the other Amish people.

It's just all too, too sad.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Sun, 29th Mar '09 6:40 PM

I just came back from a Pet store that's notorious for
selling Puppy Mill pups....they had two Boston terrier
pups that looked OK - they were in a cage with a PUG
that was thin, tired-looking and not at all playful.
They were charging $1400 for each of them!!!! At that
price why would anyone buy at those immoral stores????

Caramel1  (Level: 136.3 - Posts: 21615)
Sun, 29th Mar '09 6:59 PM

This has nothing to do with puppy mills, but many of you were so very kind to me when the neighbor kid poisoned my Sally Dog (sheltie). It broke my heart and has taken me a bit but should soon have another middle-aged sheltie girl from the sheltie rescue folks They are rather the opposite extreme.. You have to submit a lengthy application and they check your references including your vet. They make 2 home visits before they ever let you have the dog for a nominal fee and another home visit after the dog has settled in-her name is Sasha. You can see her by going to the mid fl sheltie rescue site. I'm ready and can hardly wait- Linda

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Sun, 29th Mar '09 7:05 PM

You're so right Linda. Going through MOST rescue organizations will ensure the right dog being placed with the right owner. They work hard to make a match that will last and give the animal a forever home. Some people complain because the rescues are so picky about certain things, but I'm glad they are.

I'm so glad you're getting another dog. Studies have shown that your blood pressure drops when you are petting your dog or cat, and that pets give your overall well-being a boost. Let us know when you get her.
I hope the people who were a problem with your other dog are no longer around you.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.3 - Posts: 21615)
Sun, 29th Mar '09 7:15 PM

Thanks, Pat. Yes, the kid and family moved out shortly after Sally died. Told my kids it would be easier for me to adopt another one of their kind than this dog. These people though make sure all of the dogs are current on shots and vet visits and are spayed or neutered. Sasha it seems takes thyroid meds-never heard of that in a dog-but will see that she gets it along with the diet they recommend. Perhaps we all can hope with the dog will come less controversy in my posts, think?? LOl Linda

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 4:36 AM

Oh gosh, Linda, would we know you then???

I do hope the new dog will bring you some joy. We all need the unconditional love a dog especially gives us. Cats are too independent, although I do have one that is very affectionate (and needy!).

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 6:19 AM

I'm so happy for you and Sasha! Can't wait to hear more about her.

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2475)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 11:12 AM

Our little white dog, who is a terrier mix, was a puppy mill dog that we got from the rescue shelter. They told us, when we got him, not to take him outside off the lease because when they are new, if they get the chance they will run, as fast as they can and they will keep running .... its just so sad! It took him about 2 months to settle, which was good because we were told it would be at lease 3 and probably 6 months, he has turned out to be the sweetest little dog and is just so happy, he just learned that when he comes to me, and makes this little noise, I will let him outside -- he just goes CRAZY everytime it works! And its about time -- he has not been house trained up to this point -- I am religous about them going outside, but before, he was perfectly happy to pee, whereever! At first, he was terrified of all males and jumped for every strange noise -- the coffee perculator was terrible for him -- its been a joy to see him to turn into a happy little dog -- it breaks my heart to think of what terrible things happened to him before he got here!

Caramel1  (Level: 136.3 - Posts: 21615)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 11:25 AM

Seems Sasha has been among the more fortunate-no evidence that she was ever abused. Shelties are shy by nature but so very lovable. She was turned into the shelter by a working couple whose kids were off at college and they were just to busy to give her the time she needs. Just got a call fro the rescue lady and looks like I mightm get her soon-keep your fingers crossed all-Linda

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 1:58 PM

If that link works right, that should be your Sasha. She is gorgeous!

Caramel1  (Level: 136.3 - Posts: 21615)
Mon, 30th Mar '09 2:18 PM

Yes, Pat, that is Sasha. She is in foster care in Orlando and her foster mother works. Am waiting for her to call me to see when it is convenient for her to come. I have passed the vet screening and reference thing with the head rescue lady in Winter Springs. Like you said and I know it would be almost as easy to adopt a child as my Sasha but ca hardly wait-thanks for posting the link- Linda

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