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caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 7:17 PM

RACE CARD

Was going to post this on the Gitmo thread but it doesn't really belong there. I give Obama credit during the campaign that he seldom used the race card. Lest anyone think the race thing has disappeared by his constituents please note: The Rev. Sharpton and Acorn launching a campaign to get a sheriff I believe in Arizona ousted for racial profiling. That sheriff has been elected by his county several times and he enforces the immigration laws. Obama and family have yet to pick a DC Church. I believe he would be wiser to do like Reagan and simply not attend. During the campaign he said that segregation was no more apparent than on Sunday morning church services. His association with the Rev. Wright almost cost him the election. There are several predominately Black DC churches soliciting him but that might look like he is racist himself. One Baptist Church has black members but is predominately attended by whites so black leaders are saying he should not attend that one. A delegation of Black Congressional folks met in Cuba with Castro and brother who say the US is racist-interesting that the delegates were Black. Obama had just announced a relaxing of relationships with Cuba-personally don't give a hoot about that. Just because it is not polite to talk about it don't think race does not have its card to play in this game of politics-one of the first being Burris filling Obama's Senate seat because we needed a Black Senator.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 7:45 PM

So how's Sasha?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 8:10 PM

Fine-hesitate to post that or someone will certainly say I have an entire thread devoted to her-she deserves it-she's wonderful-Linda

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 9:50 PM

Dogs are more interesting than presidents.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6639)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 9:51 PM

and politics...

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 10:30 PM

Kinda giggle when someone mentions "the race card" as if it doesn't matter until its brought up because someone is other than white. I don't believe it came up 2004 and white people keep uttering this saying as if it's OK to be biased based on someone's ethnicity.

There is no "race card"... we all belong to a race. Like it or not, we are not put on this earth from some other planet. We all have races, whether it be Asian, Irish, German, African or American. Some people are racist and will insinuate that because you and I are the same color, or of the same ethnicity, we must believe the same.

Geesus, get your head out of the sand.

HRH...Me.



knerd
Knerd  (Level: 99.0 - Posts: 1141)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 10:34 PM

I can't find my card!

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 11:01 PM

And I haven't won a race since 6th grade.

mrbojangles
Mrbojangles  (Level: 16.6 - Posts: 231)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 11:17 PM

I tore up my rat race card 3 months ago.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 11:20 PM

Crap...I fed it didn't I?

gerryn
Gerryn  (Level: 18.7 - Posts: 141)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 11:37 PM

I've heard of a dance card....what's a race card?

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 891)
Tue, 7th Apr '09 11:43 PM

Well ... I'm getting my race card for May 2 ... putting my money on Win Willy

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 2:34 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_quota For something that doesn't exist there sure has been a whole slew of things done in the last few decades in the name of it. But you are correc5t it is not "polite" to talk about it unless you feel you have been slighted in some way. And , Don, I like dogs better than almost any person I know-Linda

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 3:40 AM

I'm with Sandy on this one, but the Congressional Black Caucus is per se segregationist and racist.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 6:19 AM

Are you referring to Annie's dog?

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 6:31 AM

Linda's dog.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 7:31 AM

Yes. for a country who is color blind why do we have a Black Caucus, or a Black United Way, or a Black anything else. Would be curious if there was a White Caucus or a White United Way or White anything else- imagine the outrage. White folks are the ones who seem to think people shouldn't notice or mention skin color- Linda

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 7:57 AM

Andy, don't gnow what to say. Linda, I'll bet if 99% of everything in the country was owned by blacks, that we would have white caucuses etc.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 154.7 - Posts: 2478)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 8:00 AM

And here I thought this thread was about NASCAR.

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 8:13 AM

I'm proud to say when RIchard Petty ran for the state commissioner post, he never played the race card once...

4getful1
4getful1  (Level: 176.0 - Posts: 2924)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 9:21 AM

Amen. and Amen. The end.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 9:22 AM

Perhaps, but why is there not an American Indian Caucus or an Asia Caucus, or even a women's caucus etc. Either we are a colorblind country or we are not. It was supposed to be different because a Black man was elected President- but those groups are still lobby groups. The Black United Way has made me angry for a very long time. Worked with black people all my life and not one of them could ever point out to me how that in itself was not racist but every year we had 2 collections-don't believe the United Way has anything to do with white nor black nor owning anything. I never did pose the question what would happen if someone started a WHITE United Fund drive. I liked the people i worked with and believe for the most part they liked me. Just believe that racism in the US exists now slanted more in the other way-Linda

nanpaulhus
Nanpaulhus  (Level: 139.0 - Posts: 340)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 9:39 AM

Okay, here's my thing. Just like when my mom or dad says that "that child is half black" in hushed tones, I reply "yes and half white!" in non-hushed, even LOUD tones!

Why is President Obama our first black president? Is he not only partially black? Why isn't he our first "mixed" president? Or something else than completely "black"? Or, why is he anything exactly? I mean, I'm mixed too. Okay, no African probably, just some native American in there somewhere, like one 32cd, and the rest European/Great Britain. So, he has more melatonin. Big deal. He is taller than some, shorter than others, too. AND he's smarter than some, not so smart as others. I get so tired of this - not so much about Prezzy as the daily basis thing. (sighs).

I've got one cousin and one second cousin with black spouses, and another cousin just reported to me that her son is engaged to a black girl. A wonderful woman. My daughter has asked "mom what if I date..." and I was ashamed she had to ask because I thought I had made myself clear on that issue. Turns out I had, she was worried about some of the other relatives. Come on peeps!

Hmmmm I think I turned this into my own little soap box. Well, good fer me (Amos n Andy circa 1945).

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 9:50 AM

Had a little problem in my family when my son was marrying a Filipino. I just noted what a terrific girl she was and stood behind my son.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 10:32 AM

I lived integration most of my life. The President said he hopes their could be an open dialogue about race-ignoring differences will not make that happen. I believe their are groups that use their race or ethnicity to wield political clout. Don't believe that makes me a racist but an observant person-Linda Incidentally those Somali Pirates now have a US Navy flagship. The White House says it is monitoring it closely-. Hope it doesn't turn out the same as when he said North Korea should experience CONSEQUENCES from its missle launch. Please tell me he is not going to ask the UN to actually DO something!! Linda

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 10:50 AM

I don't read that it is a US navy ship, but that it is Danish. Where did you get that?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 10:55 AM

ON FOX but know some people have no faith in Fox but it will come out elsewhere

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 11:02 AM

They get the facts right, Linda.

And they have several very balanced and informative programs. Excellent evening news too with analysis by a balanced trio of commentators.

But their daytime programming is slanted. And Hannity is downright obnoxious.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 11:08 AM

A little confused about facts-me not Fox-seems it was a Danish owned cargo ship carrying humanitarian aid- but it was US flagged. - 20 Americans are known to be on board-no word yet if any have been injured-Linda

knerd
Knerd  (Level: 99.0 - Posts: 1141)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 11:21 AM

This thread reminded me of my prank calling days - so I would like to apologise to the Race family in Atlanta, Ga. for calling you at 5 in the morning to ask if people accused you of playing the race card when you punched in at work. I'd like to blame it on my youth but must blame alcohol and a couple of stripper friends from my past who weren't the best influence. (I wasn't a stripper - not there's anything wrong with that) I'd also like to apologise to the Whorecamp and Whorebus families as well. I'd like to say I've learned my lesson and outgrown these tendencies - can't. Still, all are safe from me now because of caller ID!

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 11:52 AM

I'm with pennwoman I thought it was going to be about Nascar. I should have known better. You are too much.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 11:57 AM

Thank you so much- LOL Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Wed, 8th Apr '09 12:50 PM

The crew of the ship were all US seamen. They were unarmed. Somehow they seem to have been able to regain control of the ship. Doubt they did it by "talking nice". Details are sketchy but seems one pirate is in the custody of the crew a 4 pirates reported in the water. Since Somalia has no functioning government word is the pirate in custody will be taken to Kenya for trial. Linda Good for the USA and backbone- Linda

nanpaulhus
Nanpaulhus  (Level: 139.0 - Posts: 340)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 1:46 AM

oh, shoot, I had to read that twice. I thought you said at first they were all US seaman, and unmarried. You did mean unarmed, didn't you? If you meant unmarried, get back to me.

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 2:28 AM

Didn't these seamen have the "Right to bear arms" like the rest of the racists.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 5:32 AM

Linda, let me respond to a number of your posts here in this way and agree with you.

Like you I have lots of experience with integration (schools, where I lived for 35 years) and I prefer the colorblind approach.

In my experience the folks who want to recognize skin color and count heads tend to be the hypocrites on racial matters.


caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 6:53 AM

No, Barnie, merchant ships'; trews do not carry arms-believe it is the law. When in the h--- did it become racist to have a gun a gun? -GEEZUZ- You ought to exchange pms with others of your intelligence here-Linda

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 891)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 7:50 PM

Linda, I agree with you. We ask the wrong people -- AKA our children and schools -- to solve our social problems, trying to integrate schools with busing, for example. There are those, black and white, who use the race issue for political and economic gain, without any benefit to the black people. Nobody saw anything racist in making fun of Hilary's ample derriere; say the same thing about Michelle O. and you are racist. Race can be a red herring to keep our attention away from other things we need to focus on.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 8:22 PM

I sent in a support ticket....Linda said "seamen" which I think is highly improper in this family forum.

HRH...Me.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 8:24 PM

LOL

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Thu, 9th Apr '09 9:05 PM

Reminds me of the old joke about the whale who came upon a shipwreck.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Fri, 10th Apr '09 8:29 AM

Was it a sperm whale?


collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.7 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 10th Apr '09 2:13 PM

Michelle has a large derrière?

Well, she's a very pretty lady, damn smart and very likable.

FYI Hillary was second best to both Obamas.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Fri, 10th Apr '09 2:23 PM

Don't see how that has a thing to do with racism nor anyone's butt, Andy, but if you say so......

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 891)
Fri, 10th Apr '09 9:58 PM

Sheesh! I wasn't comparing Hil to Michelle. BTW, how does one come in second to two other people?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21596)
Fri, 10th Apr '09 11:43 PM

I have to say no other name than Bobby Rush to prove my point the racism exists for racism sake- Linda


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