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Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 7:05 AM


Sure those of you who still smoke have felt the cigarette tax. Now Oregon has imposed a "BEER" tax increase that will not only keep folks sober but run many small businesses out of the state. They can do this because they are not sympathetic habits-wait until your utility bill goes up though with the carbon tax and then see how attractive these tax increases are- Linda

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 7:38 AM

I think many smokers cut back when the prices went up drastically. They did not quit smoking. The same thing could be true on beer taxes. Many will have to cut back and only get drunk on the weekends. I think the taxes on both are great. There's not a way for the Government to tax chasing women, is there? There is a big difference in smoking and drinking. You can walk around a smoker ( but not the smell) but you can't smell a drunk driver passing you on the highway. Taxing smokers and drunks until it hurts is okay with me. Gambling and porn could be next. And then address taxing NAS(ty)CAR. I did almost go bankrupt when Delaware had a fart tax, but taxing offensive vices makes more sense than many of the existing taxes.

Cindyjo422  (Level: 97.4 - Posts: 43)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 7:57 AM

Linda, Here in Buffalo, the electric company wanted to raise their rates and New York state gov't said no and next thing you know New York is putting a 2 percent tax on our electric bills. Cindy Jo

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2765)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 9:45 AM

I'm torn. "Sin" taxes have an obvious surface attraction and logic, but my libertarian soul rebels at government shaping of our lifestyle too much.

I think cigarettes should be illegal..

And I think a gas tax makes sense, impossible to argue that there isn't a benefit to dissuade consumption. If one had been slipped in when gas went from $4 to $2 it would have been painless..

Cindyjo422  (Level: 97.4 - Posts: 43)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 2:35 PM

Taxing liquor and cigarettes are fine with me I don't do either, but when New York wanted to tax non diet soft drinks, teas, etc by 18% calling it a fat tax got me upset. Luckily the idea some how disappeared. I like my sugar.

Fudypatootie  (Level: 207.0 - Posts: 1302)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 2:39 PM

Yeah, I'm with you, Cindy. I don't care so much about taxes on cigarettes and alcohol, but what vice is next? Chocolate? God Forbid!!

Cindyjo422  (Level: 97.4 - Posts: 43)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 2:45 PM

Don't give them any ideas! Love my chocolate!!! lol

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 3:04 PM

NY is a state that is taxing people out of it. If I dare mention the hated Limbaugh and now seems that The Donald is considering it as well. My beloved Mi. pretty much taxed and union waged industry out of the state- Fiat is saying impossible to reach agreement with the UAW. Tax industry too much and they will move to another state or out of the country. When and if he gets the tax on carbon emissions everyone will feel it-the cigarette and beer tax no longer affect me but sure a tax is on the way that will. He can say he is not going to raise taxes only on rich but that is income tax. Believe NY's "millionaire' tax includes those earning just over $200,000-lots of small business folks. Do the math-with the spending and the entitlements someone has to pay- and there are not enough super rich to foot the bill-Linda

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Fri, 17th Apr '09 7:56 PM this will be the axe to force Congewss to pas cap and trade as the lesser of the evils-watch your prices rise

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