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suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Thu, 6th Apr '06 10:56 PM

REGIONALISMS

Just wondering which is more prevalent...

do you say "butt naked" or "buck naked"? feel free to explain why!

also wondering about this one...when you temporarily fix something with wire and duct tape, do you say it's been "jerrie rigged" or "jury rigged"? Or some other variation?

lulise
Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Thu, 6th Apr '06 11:56 PM

I say "butt naked". I mean if you are naked, then you butt would show. I never knew what "buck" meant in "buck naked".

And I say "redneck rigged". Most ppl I know use a more inappropriate term in this case, but I don't like saying it so I won't post it.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 3:02 AM

Some ponderance from Down Under:~

I have heard of "Jerry-Built" and"Jury-Rigged"...........the former meaning the structure is dodgy, unstable, badly constructed. The latter implies an emergency repair, that may or may not be done properly later.

I have heard of "Buck Naked" in common usage.....I thought "Butt Naked" was a more recent (but possibly more accurate) derivation.

Yup, there are other versions, that kinda cross over into R-Rated!
~Bev

mrsgc
Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 7:56 AM

Of the options given I have only heard of 'Jerry built' and 'Butt naked'.

Personally I would say 'Stark nacked' and 'Bodged job'

One that my friends and I dislike the use of but disagree on the actual expression iss ' I can't be asked' or ' I can't be assed' - Meaning 'I can't be bothered to ...'
The former seems the most logical to me , being a shortened down version of ' I can't be asked to make the effort to do that'

bearpaw
Bearpaw  (Level: 50.7 - Posts: 155)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 10:13 AM

I'm laughing I agree with lulise!@!!!

siriusofazkaban
Siriusofazkaban  (Level: 15.1 - Posts: 196)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 12:12 PM

I say "butt naked" just because it's obvioudly more accurate.

I may be totally off on this, but I always thought that "Buck Naked" meant that you looked like a buck or a male deer cause you were all naked and tan and they are naked and tan.

However, if you dont tan....that, then you would be "Marshmallow naked" and that would be more accurate.

As for "Jerry-rigged" I have heard that once, but the other version of it that I hear more often is the inappropriate one, and I'm sure you guys know it.

~Sirius

bravegator
Bravegator  (Level: 152.0 - Posts: 428)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 1:54 PM

Jerry-rigged was actually meant to be derrogatory. It was short for German and was popular during the world wars...as a way to say it was shoddy, etc. Which is also how the "other" one came about. See mom, my history major was worth something

dougal1970
Dougal1970  (Level: 9.8 - Posts: 15)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 2:30 PM

I would say the same as mrsgc, It would be "Stark Naked" or "In The Noddy",
I have never heard of "jerrie rigged" but I think I would say either "Bodge Job" or "Codge Job"
Deb x

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 4:11 PM

Buck naked, but butt ugly.

And jury-rigged.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 10:44 PM

Doesn't "jury-rigging" seem to imply paying-off the people who make the decisions? It just doesn't seem tlike the same thing as a "bodged job".

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 10:59 PM

Or it sounds like a committee of 12 of dissenting opinions, selected not so much for their intellect, but rather their perceived persuadability, locked up in a room and left to their own devices ...

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 7th Apr '06 11:02 PM

Well well well! I had no idea what the "inappropriate" phrase was, so I did some googling and finally found it. But in my research I learned that "jury-rigging" is nautical in origin and has nothing to do with rigging courtroom juries, as I had always thought!

And Bravegator - you might want to study up a bit before any more history classes - all the reputable sources I can find show "jerry-rigged" to pre-date WWII by some 50+ years!

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.7 - Posts: 2100)
Mon, 10th Apr '06 1:58 PM

Where I grew up in Indiana, it was "Jerry rigged". We were much more likely to say "Naked as a jaybird" but I do remember hearing buck naked. Butt naked, of course, makes more sense.

terrbear424
Terrbear424  (Level: 98.3 - Posts: 35)
Tue, 11th Apr '06 1:26 AM

I have always used the expression buck naked. And I believe Jerry-rigged is derived form gerrymandering-the redistribution of politcal districts for less than honorable intentions.

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Tue, 11th Apr '06 2:48 AM

I was once on a public bus in Berkeley California, where, rather notoriously, 9 out of 10 residents are leftist vegetarians with a Ph.D.
The bus stops at an intersection and a 50-something woman jogs by, happily unencumbered by clothing but for a pair of Adidas, whereupon the bus driver, as if in some time-warped vaudeville skit, opens his eyes wide and exclaims, "Dat b..tch be butt nekkid!".
The vegetarian Ph.D.s, unfazed by the nekkidness, start cracking up. At what? 'Butt naked' as opposed to the correct 'buck'.
So I guess it depends where you are and who you're talking to. Butt naked is more commonly used, but then again, so is nukular.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 133.8 - Posts: 3777)
Tue, 11th Apr '06 6:19 AM

I am thinking 50-something and butt, or any other kind of naked, should not be it the same sentence. I'm with Austin Powers in visualizing the chilling effects of "Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!"

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Tue, 11th Apr '06 6:27 AM

Actually Steve she was pretty hot, I gotta say.

action23
Action23  (Level: 113.6 - Posts: 180)
Tue, 11th Apr '06 6:59 AM

I recall hearing the terms "buck naked" and "jerry-rigged".

Although my friend Buckwheat may possibly argue that the person was butt nekkid.....



surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.5 - Posts: 2770)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 5:24 AM

We simply do not use such language in Surrey.

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 12:44 PM

But I bet they use it in Surrey, British Columbia:
Surrey girl an extremely derisive reference, but widespread in humour in BC's Lower Mainland, with an accompanying body of extremely sexist and classist jokes imputing a certain kind of loose lifestyle and "white trash" culture.
Surrey Tuxedo Male attire consisting of T- shirt, Mac Jacket (usu. red/black plaid), Daytons (brand of locally made motorcycle boots) and jeans. Named after Surrey, British Columbia. Refers to the once common sight of this outfit on the streets of Surrey.
(from Wikipedia, Canadian Slang entry)

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 1:56 PM

Jed, as I read the newest replies from most recent backwards, your posts seemed to say that you found Margaret Thatcher "pretty hot"! I was thinking, "Whoa, Jed has some unique taste in women..." LOL

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 11:01 PM

(jed jots down in his field book: 'Talking blue squirrels showing tendency to read from bottom to top')...

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 133.8 - Posts: 3777)
Fri, 28th Apr '06 7:52 AM

Green guy having discussion with blue squirrel...(momentary swirling feeling)...having an Alice in Wonderland flashback...I'm late! I'm late!

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Fri, 28th Apr '06 9:09 AM

LOL
I think it's a sign of genius. Or madness. Or both.

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 537)
Sat, 29th Apr '06 3:56 AM

Well good Violet, 'cus I thought the same thing =)

Here in CA, I've usually heard 'buck' naked. (And though I'm only a San Franciscan with a BA who often eats in vegetarian restaurants, I also thought 'butt' naked was an understandable mutation of the "correct" expression.=)

I would also use 'jerry rigged'...I've heard the expression 'jerry built' but not 'jury rigged'.

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.2 - Posts: 5484)
Sat, 29th Apr '06 6:58 PM

I've always heard the expression "buck naked" and "jerry rigged"....I've also heard "butt naked"....Now, who can tell me the difference between a hissy fit and a coniption fit?
Vickie

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Sat, 29th Apr '06 7:55 PM

I think a hissy fit is petty - something that whiners have

a conniption fit is a legitimate blow-up!

My students throw hissy fits, but when I get mad at them, I have a conniption!

LOL

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Sun, 30th Apr '06 5:17 AM

haha suze, well put. nice photo as well. if i were a casting agent i could see you doing Hedwig. how's your german accent?

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Sun, 7th May '06 12:22 PM

These are kind of late '70's mid-western. If something was really cool, we would say it's 'Bomb'. As in,'That was a pretty bomb concert last night'. And an old car that was restored and looked good was called 'Cherry'. As in 'Look at that '57 Chevy. That thing is cherry'.

Were those said anywhere else? I had a friend in the Army that said he had been stationed with a guy from Detroit and he said 'bomb' all the time. He got a kick out of it and didn't know it was common back then.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Sun, 7th May '06 9:20 PM

Out of fashion now, but for the past few years my students all called good things "da bomb" as in "Rap muzik is da bomb!"

[looks like I'm writing in my German accent now, huh Jedley ]


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