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bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 3:29 PM

MISS CALIFORNIA

I personally think she answered honestly and should not be punished for that. I applaud her not backing down for her comments. What say you, my fellow sploofusers? Why should a beauty contest be so political. Who in the h--- cares what Perez Hilton says anyway. I know I don't.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 3:33 PM

I don't care about Perez Hilton, the Miss America contest, or Miss California. But I do respect their freedom to say whatever they feel, as long as they respect the rights of others to disagree with them.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 3:48 PM

I think, honestly, the question posed to her was an inappropriate question.

I honor her courage to answer her convictions.

But unless they ALL received questions like this, I don't understand why the furor isn't on Mr. Hilton, rather than on her.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 4:06 PM

This girl is getting more publicity than the winner ever will whether her question or her response were appropriate or not-Linda

barb1111
Barb1111  (Level: 103.9 - Posts: 215)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 7:34 PM

I think she was very courageous not to give a politically correct answer but her honest opinion. Those types of questions do not belong in a beauty pagent. Perez Hilton is a jerk IMHO.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 7:55 PM

It puzzles me but then many things do these days why an openly Gay man is a judge of a female beauty pageant....Linda

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 22nd Apr '09 8:02 PM

Really, why is this guy everywhere these days. Every time I go to watch a reality show he manages a spot. His opinions don't mean anything to me. I just feel as though her not winning is like saying it is politically correct now to encourage alternative lifestyles. However that doesn't mean you can't have a traditional view of marriage and still be politically correct.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 3:38 AM

Right on, Linda.

A gay man judging a beauty contest ???????

Does not compute.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 6:36 AM

She was absolutely right to express her own opinion. She's a little presumptuous now to say it cost her the crown. I didn't watch the show so I don't know how she was doing at the time of this question. It seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't question, someone won't like your answer either way. Perez is furthering his own agenda. He felt the question should have been asked of her because of CA's recent vote on same sex marriage and defeat of it as well.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:33 AM

I think, if she had stumbled less over the question, she would have come across less revolted by it. Surely, she had practiced how to answer questions and especially how to react to difficult ones. The only thing she managed not to do was go "Ewwww" at the begining of her answer.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:36 AM

Why can't a gay man, judge beauty? Its a beauty contest, not a sexual attraction contest. The number of gay people in the fashion industry is legion and usually are considered, if you pardon the pun, FABULOUS!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:41 AM

Martina, they don't have the same hard-wired feelings as heterosexuals.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:42 AM

Yes. They do.

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:43 AM

I could judge a male or female beauty contest. I don't think it matters that he was gay.

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:45 AM

Should have read,,,,,could judge a gay or lesbian contest.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:03 AM

As if no gay people have ever judged beauty contests before.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:22 AM

Yes, to all you. politically correct people, gay people judge dog and horse shows too- GEEZUZ- I don't care about the contest nor anyone sexual preference but take great offense to EVERYTHING having to be PC-the girl was not applying for a job or running for office -give me a fr------ break! Linda

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:28 AM

I don't think she was penalized for the answer she gave. I think it was because she sounded stupid giving it.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:30 AM

Maybe she should have used a teleprompter. Some cannot express a complete coherent thought without it- Napolitano certainly should use one as she has now pi--- of our Canadian neighbors - Linda

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:38 AM

I agree, a teleprompter may be better. That way you don't hear things like "misunderestimate, speaking of a coherent thought.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:46 AM

I believe the contestants are being JUDGED on their poise and spontaneous thinking and speaking ability.

She was. Why is it any more complicated than that?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 8:58 AM

BS bully someone else!!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:00 AM

I beg your pardon?

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:19 AM

I didn't agree with her answer, but that should not have cost her the title. She is entitled to her opinion.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:34 AM

Yep. She's entitled to her opinion - but she is not entitled to be Miss USA unless the judges say so, and there were 12 of them, not just one.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:42 AM

Besides, look at this woman. Maybe she just got beat fair and square and Perez Hilton is cynically using her for his own purposes, but how 'bout that Miss North Carolina? I thought Miss California looked like an animated Barbie doll - - oh, wait - - they all do.

http://missnorthcarolinausa.com/

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:50 AM

Could someone please recap - what the heck was the question and what was the gist of her response?

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:51 AM


bakerstreeet
Bakerstreeet  (Level: 42.7 - Posts: 187)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 10:33 AM

I agree with most of the respondents. I believe anyone has a right to speak their honest response to any question, and should not be penalized for doing so, if that is indeed what happened. It could also have been that Miss California was trying to rationalize her loss after the contest, while garnering as much press as possible. The issue of gay marriage is based on tolerance, so it is incredibly ironic that Hilton’s reaction was so remarkably intolerant. But to me, the most ironic aspect of all of this is that a beauty pageant moment brought the issue of gay marriage more forcefully to the public’s attention than the passage of any state’s law allowing or disallowing it!


pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 11:18 AM

I agree with smoke, it wasnt her answer, it was the way she bumbled through it, she blew it, it's is as simple as that. It was not about being politically correct, it was about being able to answer a question concisely and with poise. She didn't.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 11:31 AM

Funny, Perez said something different after calling her all kinds of names-again she was entitled to a teleprompter.....

aquamar
Aquamar  (Level: 178.7 - Posts: 909)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 11:38 AM

I agree with Janice it was an inappropriate question. What person wouldn't hesitate when asked that question in front of millions of people. She is smart enough to realize that she would be damed if she did and damed if she didn't. I have to respect her for answering truthfully about the way she felt about the subject. She used the truth and it might have cost her the crown and I stress the word might because no one will ever know for sure.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 11:38 AM

I like the movie "Erin Brochovich" her reply to her big question for Miss something was she would work for world peace but never got around to it after the parades and K-Mart openings- it is a BEAUTY CONTEST not a diplomacy test. She came out far ahead of the girl who has the title. Like Bakerstreeet said this issue got more attention here than all of the elections or protests. Few people would have remember this contest took place the next day if not for this-good for her- bumbling answer or not- Linda

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 11:56 AM

FYI president Obama said he does not favor gay marriage-then again he didn't stumble saying it as he had his ever faithful TELEPROMPTER!!

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 12:04 PM

LMAO!! Too funny.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 12:36 PM

And this just in...
Miss California is dating Michael Phelps, according to her grandmother.
http://tinyurl.com/c64whs


collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 1:09 PM

So her next beauty contest question will be about marijuana.

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 537)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 1:17 PM

It's not really fair to give one contestant such a provocative question and lob softballs at another. It'd be more interesting to see how they all answered the same question. That said, Miss America is a PR job and a more skilled speaker would've been able to answer the question without answering it.

As to gay men being judges, I'd guess there are more gay men than straight men watching the Miss America pageant. And if being physically attracted to the contestants would make you a better judge, shouldn't they choose female judges who are lesbians?




larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 1:20 PM

If she answered the same question after sharing young Mr Phelps' recreational activities, she may answer very differently...

(But probably sound just as stilted.)

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 1:27 PM

This was Miss USA kinda as important as Miss World or Miss Universe or some such thing. Too much answering without answering these days-she wins looks like to me-Linda

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 1:27 PM

"...shouldn't they choose female judges who are lesbians?"

Guaranteed to make more straight men watch.


Is Perez Hilton that malodourous evil little gremlin who used to out closet homosexual celebrities? Pond life, if it is.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 2:07 PM

Yep, he is the pond scum.....

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 5:34 PM

Linda, I do have to give you credit for managing to work teleprompter into this thread, twice.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 6:13 PM

And an egregious slam on the president. She's good.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:24 PM

LOL wait until I get to Hillary and her about face about the Pakistani government overnight.-perhaps she should use a TELEPROMPTER (3 Penn) Doesn't anyone in this administration take a hold an opinion? I was wrong in thinking Afghanistan would be his Vietnam-looks like it might be Pakistan-cannot win either place and Pakistan has the bomb-Geezuz - If you want to make this a political thread specifically foreig "policy" have at it- Linda -

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 7:37 PM

And if a 9/11 commission is held on the Bush "torture" policies like he and Holder keep hinting at as a bone to the Left moveon.org have at it and put Pelosi in the dock first. Still want to turn the innocuous Miss USA response to a loaded political question by a complete jerk into a political thread? I make no secret of my opinion of the President but have been attempting to keep my political posts to a minimum- Linda

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 9:44 PM

This was good bait to see if some people could post enough to make themselves look ridiculous. Not only answereing her own posts but managing to slam the President and Hillary on a thread that has NOTHING to do with them. All I said was the contestant had the right to answer the question honestly and should not have been penalized for it. Then on the same thread we get a debate (not really she argues with herself) about Pakistan and teleprompters and the left, oh please come on! Tell us how you REALLY feel about this administration after only what 3 months. Geez Louise, you take the cake!

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 537)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 10:23 PM

Ooooh - "malodourous evil little gremlin" is the best description ever of Perez Hilton. Very nicely done, Martin.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 23rd Apr '09 10:32 PM

Scoring a lot of points, Linda.

Pond scum was too gentle for that creep. I just read all about him.

As for the proposed commission on torture Barack really stepped into it. Fraid he doesn't understand that after the election wise Presidents all but abandon their extremist supporters. His supporters are loving it, but I am seeing mistake after mistake from this young administration. Smart, yet exceptionally naive.




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