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maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.4 - Posts: 2671)
Tue, 12th May '09 7:50 AM

NEW STAR TREK MOVIE

I saw the new Star Trek movie this weekend and loved it! I think even non-Trekkies will enjoy the film.


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 12th May '09 7:56 AM

I was a huge fan of the tv series, but never seemed to enjoy the movies. The trailers have me wanting to see it. Did the actors bring their own nuances to the characters? And did the story line play well regardless of who was wearing the pointed ears? Did it stray much from the original Star Trek essence?

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.4 - Posts: 5492)
Tue, 12th May '09 8:02 AM

My hubby and sons want to see it too...The things I've seen and read make me want to see it too
Vickie

erin0620
Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Tue, 12th May '09 8:05 AM

I saw it this weekend, too. I never saw the series nor any of the previous movies, but was still able to understand (and be tickled by) most the 'inside' humor. I agree, it was really good. I felt they made excellent choices in casting, esp Scotty and Zulu. And I now have a huge crush on Spock. Perhaps I will become a trekky. May the shwartz be with you.....wait...Nanu Nanu?

Felix, my husband was a fan of the original series and he really enjoyed the new film, I think you'll like it

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 12th May '09 8:20 AM

Thanks Erin. I rarely go to the theater. For years it seemed Hollywood was in a rut.This year having seen The Wrestler and Slumdog Millionarie, I do feel that there are interesting flicks out there. Also independent film can be fun. There is an Alternative Theater near my new home. A Georgia Boy dining at a table during a movie seemed so strange. I will take a chance and catch Star Trek this weekend.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Tue, 12th May '09 9:19 AM

My students are all recommending it (which is not ALWAYS a good sign) and Rotten Tomatoes has it rated very high (you can usually trust their "fresh picks")

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Tue, 12th May '09 9:28 AM

I was going to start a new post on this topic this morning and you beat me to it.

I'm not a Star Trek fan and probably won't see it. However, I wanted to recommend this article to you.

http://intergalactic-films.suite101.com/article.cfm/new_star_trek_movie

This was written by a friend and former co-worker. Writers on Suite 101 are paid by the click, so I hope you'll take time to read what this huge Star Trek fan has to say about the new movie. He asks some interesting questions and gives you some things to watch for as you view the movie.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Tue, 12th May '09 9:36 AM

My son took me to see it for Mothers Day, I am a huge Star Trek fan.... he is 20 and cynical about movies -- to quote him "These movies always get so hyped and end up disappointing"
We both LOVED IT. I thoroughly enjoyed it and can't wait to see it again, he figures the DVD should come out around my birthday and is already planning to buy it for me!
So when he dropped me off a home, you know what I told him?
"Live long and prosper"

slicko
Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Tue, 12th May '09 10:03 AM

Saw it yesterday - thought it was great. Fan or not you can really enjoy it - lots of action, good story, and some funny moments too.

crazy4games
Crazy4games  (Level: 123.0 - Posts: 1020)
Tue, 12th May '09 10:12 AM

I saw it on Sunday as well, and I loved it! Can't wait to see it again. Lotsa chuckles.


johnbtv
Johnbtv  (Level: 264.9 - Posts: 202)
Tue, 12th May '09 10:48 AM

Well...I saw it...PART of it. I became so disgusted, I walked out.

I am a Star Trek purist. I was there, live and in person and in my living room, for the broadcast of the first episode on September 8, 1966. A 14-year old embarking on an adventure that, over the years, has seemed never ending and, for the most part, getting better and better. This movie, in my opinion, makes a travesty of what I had come to respect and admire.

Without going into details, the movie made a mockery of all that I know as Star Trek. It ran the gamut from messed up time lines to poor characterizations and non-credible events.

I say to those of you who have not yet seen the movie, please do. I would urge you all to try and view the most well-known episodes of all the Trek series. And then do some research on your own (staying away from the Paramount-sponsored sites that have changed history to conform with the movie) to see just how screwed up the movie was!

One last thing...for Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry...may you rest in peace...please don't let this rotten apple upset the mostly smoothly running apple cart of the last 42 years!

John

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.4 - Posts: 2671)
Tue, 12th May '09 11:18 AM

I was somewhat reluctant to see it because I had read that true Trekkies were not happy with the story line and the look of the "replacement" original characters. I guess I am not the dyed-in-the-wool fan I thought I was, cuz, as I said earlier, I loved it.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Tue, 12th May '09 11:35 AM

I haven't seen. Probably, I won't have to.When my son comes over he'll give me every detail from every scene.

sploofus
Justin  
Tue, 12th May '09 12:52 PM

Hmmmm.

There is not one episode of ST: TOS that I have not seen, or loved. I own the DVD sets of all 7 seasons of ST: TNG. I've watched every episode of TNG at least 3 or 4 times - yeah - all 181 of them. I think that DS9 and Voyager were an abomination to TOS as well as the elegant plots and magical casting set forth in TNG.

So I am simply scared to death to go see this new film.

I am quite positive it will do nothing other than drive me insane due to my inate inability to suspend my disbelief of the wonders set forth by Gene Rodenberry in his original 2 series.

So I won't be going.

I'm a trekkie dork like that.

Justin


salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Tue, 12th May '09 2:45 PM

Justin, read the link in my post above. The writer, Todd von Kampen, is probably as big a Star Trek fan as anyone. He lists a number of things to watch for and some questions to ask yourself as you watch it. After reading that, maybe you'll change your mind about taking a chance on seeing it.

bigdavy
Bigdavy  (Level: 131.3 - Posts: 529)
Tue, 12th May '09 3:31 PM

Salzypat, I'm usually a purist about not reading stuff before going to see a movie I'm looking forward to. Is it really better to read this article before I see the movie? I hate spoilers.

- bigdavy

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Tue, 12th May '09 4:06 PM

I can see why purists might not like the film - can't say why without being a spoiler. But my husband and I LOVED it! We have been fans for years, except for DS9. The cast was amazing - they were recognizably the characters while still being different enough from what was expected to be refreshing and fun. This is probably the best ST movie ever, J.J. Abrams is brilliant, and I hope they make more movies with this cast.

aquamar
Aquamar  (Level: 179.1 - Posts: 910)
Tue, 12th May '09 4:19 PM

John, my nephew had the same reaction you did about the new Star Trek movie. I have not seen it yet but even though he had negative feelings about the movie I think I'll go see it anyway.


Cathy

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.1 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 12th May '09 6:33 PM

Justin, you loved And the Children Shall Lead? Or Spock's Brain? There were a few I could do without.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Tue, 12th May '09 7:55 PM

Is "Children Shall Lead" the one with the 'grups' - I always liked that one!

Nevermind - I just looked it up. I was thinking of an episode called "Miri". I'm not sure I ever saw "Children Shall Lead".

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.1 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 12th May '09 8:23 PM

Isn't it wonderful that in this world you can google up "grups" and get just what you seek!

Children was the episode where a bunch of kids take over the Entrerprise with the help of their "friendly angel".

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 13th May '09 12:44 AM

Yuck. There were several I didn't love - mostly from the third year. We fought so hard to get that year, and something changed in the writing - enough so we didn't fight for a 4th year.

I get to see it tomorrow. My students LOVE this movie. I've had high schoolers tell me this is their fave movie of all time - so that's really saying something, even though they're too young to be purists.

fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.1 - Posts: 240)
Wed, 13th May '09 12:53 AM

I loved the movie. Canon schmanon, who cares about the purity. If you pay attention (don't wanna give it away), it explains why things are different.

I am a huge Trek fan (just look at all the Trek-related quizzes/kerblunks/squares I've written!). I love every series, including DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.

this movie was so good. I thought the majority of the characters were spot on (Uhura was the most different, then Sulu). I can't wait for the next film, because I'm sure they're gonna make one.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 13th May '09 6:44 PM

Ok, I just got home from seeing this movie. I can't wait till everyone has seen it so we can discuss it.

But I have to tell you - I have loved ST:TOS for 40 years - as much as any other who has lived and loved the phenomenon. I have loved all the Star Wars and Indiana Jones and other movies and TV shows.

This is literally the best movie I have ever seen.

The brilliance of JJ Abrams (who did Alias, Invasion, and Lost) and what he has done with this franchise has surpassed anything I could ever imagine or dream of. I've waited for this movie over 40 years, and nothing I could have expected could touch what I just saw. The life Abrams has breathed into Star Trek is .....nothing short of genius. The man is to TV and movies what Bill Gates has been to computers.

The improvement of CGI even since the last Star Wars is incredible. The casting couldn't have been more perfect.

But what has shifted my world is the story line.

Remember how miserable we all were with the first Star Trek movie after waiting so long? Remember how they left out everything we loved about it - the emotion, the interplay of the characters, the charm, the humor? I was so disappointed.

Everything we've loved about TOS is here. But so much better. (My only complaint is the overdevelopment of one character- I think they pushed him too soon. None of us was that much the same in our 20s as we are now. I think they might have tried a bit TOO hard to make sure we recognized him. But man, he got the voice perfect - the actor must also be a pretty good impressionist.)

But the star of this movie is the story line. What Abrams has dreamed to do and been gutsy enough to do has opened the universe to this group of people and TOS. I can't imagine walking out before I found out what the heck was going on - it's worth staying for. Few have the guts to take so bold an action with a beloved franchise.

But in doing so, Abrams's genius has opened this up as though it has been born again. My new fantasy would be for Abrams to put it on TV and redo every one of the original shows his way.

Of course, it's such a difference to have $$$$ to recreate a universe. TOS had so little money, and it's folklore how they used cardboard walls and pretty much crap for their stage and props - and we loved it anyway, because that was cutting edge, high tech back then. Nothing like it had ever been seen before.

Justin and others - I understand you're purists. But I'm telling you - this is from the heart of a girl who has loved this show from day 1, September 8, 1966, and lived with this franchise in its many forms longer than you've been alive: I ask you with all my heart. Swallow your pre-conceived thoughts about it all, and go see this movie. It's life-changing. It's breath-taking.

I was doing great till the very ending - after all the action was over. It ends.....well, I can't say, because I don't want to steal that from you. But I sobbed. I had to wait till the theater emptied before I could walk into a lighted lobby. If you loved the other MOVIES with the original cast, you'll know exactly why when you see that last scene.

I will go see it over and over at a theater until it moves to DVD, just for that all-enveloping experience.


bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Wed, 13th May '09 8:48 PM

I loved the movie. I have to say that I saw the original series, but never saw any of the other movies.

I thought the casting was brilliant. You absolutely believed that these characters grew up to be the people you met on TV back in the 60s.

I've gotten pretty cranky about going to the movies lately, cause it usually feels like the films are so long, and you have to sit still for a really long time. I'd rather sit home and see the movie later on TV where I can knit, and stop it if I feel like it. But I seriously didn't notice time passing. I was completely involved, the whole time.

The one thing that really bothered me was at the end when the old and young Spocks were in the same place at the same time & talking with each other. Didn't seem as if that should have been possible.

Great movie - don't miss it.

barb1111
Barb1111  (Level: 104.1 - Posts: 215)
Wed, 13th May '09 11:51 PM

Just got back from seeing the movie and as a non-Trek person I thought that it was very good. My husband who is a long-time Trek fan liked it but was a bit put-off with the time-line changes that occurred in the story line.
I do see a new Star Trek franchise in the making though.



sploofus
Justin  
Fri, 15th May '09 12:27 PM

Last night I went and saw it - and was pleasantly surprised.

THE GOOD:
1 - I didn't have to suspend my disbelief due to a bunch of pathetic Hollywood action sequences and physics-defying BS.
2 - "Dammit man I'm a DOCTOR not a PHYSICIST" (my favorite line from the whole movie)
3 - Excellent casting
4 - Insanely gorgeous special effects

THE BAD:
1 - Time line travesty
2 - I still don't believe it will ever be possible to teleport onto a ship moving at warp speed. The uncertainty principle predicts this.

But seriously:

All in all I am very happy to see that Hollywood did not massacre the ST franchise. They did a great job with this film. Other than bringing in Michael Piller to help with timeline and plot continuity I am not sure there is anything else they could have done to create a better ST film.

Justin



weyoun
Weyoun  (Level: 230.2 - Posts: 36)
Fri, 15th May '09 1:10 PM

It was a very pretty, well directed movie. My biggest problem is that the bad guy was no guy - pretty weak and there for the sake of the plot. That needed fleshing out. But I recommend it.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Fri, 15th May '09 7:42 PM

I agree that it was well-made, but the time line thing, unless rectified in the next film, is annoying. The casting was pretty good, but only Spock and McCoy had enough similarity to look like young versions of the future character. I think they did drop the ball on creating the bad guy. Considering the normal appearance we are used to from people from his race, I think making him look like a German Neo-Nazi Skinhead was off the mark.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Fri, 15th May '09 9:19 PM

I have to agree about the Nazi-type guy. But I hardly noticed him...

You saw why I cried at the last scene. Reminiscent......and I sobbed before at the other one.

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Fri, 15th May '09 9:30 PM

I was gonna wait for the DVD since I hate crowds, sticky floors, gum popping and people talking in the middle of a movie ... but I may suck it up and go to a movie theatre just on your recommendations.

This better be good. You have no idea of the magnitude of this sacrifice.



fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.1 - Posts: 240)
Sat, 16th May '09 11:27 PM

I liked the bad guy. I thought he was good. And they changed several other things about the movie, so changing the appearance of romulans seems like a small thing.


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