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Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Tue, 19th May '09 9:06 AM


Not sure how many religions view this if they take any stance at all. Twitter was going on yesterday when a father donated a kidney to his son-doctor doing surgery was not the surgeon. The family said their reason for doing this was because the father was in one hospital and the boy in another and wanted to help the mom get through it. They also said it was to raise the need for organ donations. Whether either of these reasons are the actual truth makes to topic no less interesting to me, From the time I was old enough to make a legal decision, have carried a card saying I am an organ donor. I find putting people through funerals a pagan ritual and want them to take what can be used-less the older I get- and burn the rest. People who care about me can mourn in a way that is private and personal to them and won't cost them a dime-Linda

Lodi  (Level: 107.5 - Posts: 2144)
Tue, 19th May '09 9:22 AM

I'm with you, Linda. Donate any organs that are usable, donate body to science (especially the Body Farm if they can), and then, as a last resort, float my ashes down the Clearwater. No expensive, morbid, wormfest for me.

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2476)
Tue, 19th May '09 9:23 AM

Well, Hell just froze over, Linda and I agree on something!
Organ donation is a wonderful, life saving thing. Not only life saving but give terribly ill people a whole new healthy life. The strides made in improving anti-rejection medication and transplantation have been amazing. I didn't see the twitter thing Linda was talking about, but especially when I worked the Pediatric rehabilitation hospital, I saw miracles happen for critically ill children. My sister is a research scientish in Louisville and is majorly involved in hand and face transplant work -- here in Pittsburgh, the first hand transplant patient, is doing really well and has movement -- he is a soldier that lost his hand in a training accident... Not only are organs transplanted but tendons and bone and corneas -- its the gift of not just life but health!

Bigbird  (Level: 250.2 - Posts: 3345)
Tue, 19th May '09 9:43 AM

Wow, Linda.... You twitter?

Totally agree about organ donation & funerals. I will go further and say that I think burial is barbaric and a waste of space that could better be used to house the living. While tombstones are certainly historically interesting, and old cemeteries are fascinating, I certainly never felt the need to visit the grave of a loved one to chat. I can think about folks from wherever I am.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:02 AM

LOL no, Alice, I don't have a clue. Linda

Madamec8  (Level: 85.9 - Posts: 897)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:02 AM

You know ... this makes sense ... esp. donating to science ...

All of me
Why not take all of me

Maurlin  (Level: 221.5 - Posts: 2717)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:07 AM

I totally agree about organ donations. I just don't understand the story.

"a father donated a kidney to his son-doctor doing surgery was not the surgeon. The family said their reason for doing this was because the father was in one hospital and the boy in another and wanted to help the mom get through it." Huh. The surgeon wasn't the surgeon? What was the deal about the mother?

Since I don't Twitter...or cherp or squeak... can someone post a site where I can read the story?

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:30 AM

I make typos, Maurlin, as everyone here knows.. The surgeon was not the one doing the twittering and the family said the twittering served a dual purpose as the boy and the father were not in the same hospital so she could stay up to date minute by minute on the progress of both. The other purpose was that press would underline the need for organ donors-not sure if either were the real motivation. Might be and interesting topic for comment if one did not deliberately miss the point-dunno-Linda

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:33 AM

Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Tue, 19th May '09 10:58 AM

I have given instructions that everything useable can be used, then to put me in an old orange box on a big bonfire. As I do not believe in a supreme being, i might as well go to hell in my box, as I want my ashes thrown in the sea.

Bakerstreeet  (Level: 42.7 - Posts: 187)
Tue, 19th May '09 11:14 AM

Organ donation is the only ethical and moral choice to make, in my view. It is unthinkable that someone with healthy organs would deny the chance of life, or a better quality of life, to another human being who is suffering, or is on the verge of death. To me, this is especially true in our medically progressive age when these type of donation operations have become almost common place. To me, if someone claims they are unable to donate their organs upon death because of religious constraints, perhaps they should consider violating those particular precepts of their faith. Way to go Linda! It's important to raise awareness about this vital topic. Thanks, Emily

Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Tue, 19th May '09 11:50 AM

I've donated my body to science, the only stipulation being that i'm dead before they have it.

Lowiq  (Level: 218.6 - Posts: 1956)
Tue, 19th May '09 5:26 PM

Just checked on and the waiting list is above 100,000 nationwide. It is certainly a personal choice whether or not to donate but, with organ, bone, tendon, and tissue donations, one person can help fifty others. A sad statistic is that about 17 people die every day waiting for the gift of life. I'm a big fan of organ donation because I have been living off my brother's kidney for a little over 6 and a half years now.
Couldn't agree more about the advances in anti-rejection drugs! When transplants first started, it was massive doses of steroids. I'm on three anti-rejection drugs and the only steroid, prednisone is a very low dose per day. For anyone out there who knows someone on the list, who is on kidney dialysis, let me tell you there is life after transplant! It's certainly the coolest thing that has ever happened to me. Thanks to all who intend to donate!

Maurlin  (Level: 221.5 - Posts: 2717)
Tue, 19th May '09 6:35 PM

Thanks for the site. It wasn't a DELIBERATE misread nor did I see any typos. I just wasn't clear about the story.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Tue, 19th May '09 7:11 PM

Sorry, Maurlin get angry at myself because my mind works better than my fingers-often think one thing type something else. The fault was mine for my post being unclear-Linda

Sherilynn1962  (Level: 116.2 - Posts: 372)
Tue, 19th May '09 8:53 PM

I believe in organ donation, and have a notation on my driver's license.

Personally, I'd like to be cremated. On the issue of funerals, I think a service is important only because those left behind need closure, and a service of some sort seems to fulfill that purpose. I remember when a friend from my old church died and she was adamant there was to be no service. We were left feeling sad about the death, and empty because there was no service.

Yesterday there was a funeral service for a 12 or 13 year-old boy who killed himself here in Carson City. One of my employees went and said the place was packed with school kids. A lot of them got up and talked during the service. Imagine them just having to ponder his suicide without benefit of comforting words and getting together to remember and comfort each other.

So I say have a memorial service so I can be remembered for who I was, then eat, drink (non-alcoholic beverages only, please) and have fun afterwards!

Just my opinion, of course.



Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 19th May '09 11:45 PM

I'm all for organ donation, too. One of the most wonderful developments in medicine is that you don't have to die to donate. Even a part of a liver can be donated.

I'm guessing you do grow too old for any of your body to be useful for donation, right?

I don't care what my son does with me after death. I'll be gone. Whatever comforts him and the family is good for me - after all, any service is for them.

I have to admit though, I enjoyed seeing all the family get together at past funeral events in my past. It used to be called "paying your respects" which is always a good thing - to have people stop and focus on their loved one together and share fun stories.

I also have to admit, one of my favorite movie lines is from Sabrina (the remake with Harrison Ford)..."They say you're the world's only living heart donor."

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 19th May '09 11:46 PM

Oh, and the absolutely most bittersweet donor movie - Will Smith's Seven Pounds.

Lowiq  (Level: 218.6 - Posts: 1956)
Wed, 20th May '09 12:05 AM

Driver's license stickers and donor cards are great but the best way to make sure your organs are donated is to discuss the issue with your family. Also, don't make the decision about age yourself. Leave that one to transplant professionals. It's remarkable what can be used.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Wed, 20th May '09 2:52 AM

Still dunno about the funeral even memorial thing-guess a personal choice. Just never heard of one that anyone looked forward to attending one. It was always a "have to although don't want to" thing that I heard-includes myself here. Believe if I didn't tell my kids "no" specifically they would fall into the category of have to but don't want to. One memorial I attended was rather nice-nothing really religious but a group gathered and someone said a few words and a bunch of balloons were released and floated away-certainly less depressing than a coffin sitting above a hole in the ground and cheaper too. Am REALLY big on the Irish wakes though body or no body. Good to know Ludwig that one might not ever be too old to have some usable pieces left-makes me feel better about having all the donor stuff in place Linda

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 20th May '09 3:33 AM

Linda, not to start a debate, just for purposes of clarifying:

My understanding of the religious element, at least as far as being buried in the ground goes from a Christian perspective, is that being in favor of burial as opposed to cremation (for example) has to do with belief in the physical resurrection of the body. It was (and still is in some circles) believed that burning the body expressed a dis-belief in the resurrection. The objection wasn't to the burning of the body as far as I understand it as a hard and fast rule, but just to the disbelief itself that was implied I guess in the act.

The Judeo-Christian perspective from what "little" I've read is in favor of making it easy for people, including the religious, to donate if willing.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 20th May '09 3:44 AM

Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong religious does seem from what I've read as well that the practice of cremation is becoming more accepted by Christians over time.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21612)
Wed, 20th May '09 7:11 AM

Thanks, Jeremy, I figured there was a religious stance on this but wasn't quite sure what it was although kinda knew it had something to do with being buried in the ground. It is a personal choice and I too certainly want to offend no one or enter a religious debate. The clip that I gave is hopeful though as one does not have to be dead to donate a kidney or the like although believe it it were not a family member few would opt for that choice. Thanks to all who posted especially Lowig who noted my parts might not yet be too old-Linda

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