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bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Wed, 20th May '09 12:19 PM

WHAT'S IN A STATEMENT?

Micheal Steele is a hypocrite. Yesterday he admitted the introspection needed for the Republicans was needed. Since they've lost 2 elections; they won't look back anymore. He admitted it was their strategy to go after Nancy Pelosoi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, and Tim Gaithner because our President, Obama was so popular. And that they, the GOPers, wouldn't look back anymore. Right after that statement he called President Obama a celebrity. Those were two hypocritical statements. First of all, he let the cat out bag by letting everyone who listened to him that the Republicans were lying about Pelosi. Secondly, the celebrity name calling occurred during the campaign. that's looking back not forward.


caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Wed, 20th May '09 1:20 PM

Not sure quite what your point is but both Pelosi and Biden give anyone fodder. Liked the Senate today refusing to give him money to close Gitmo until he has a plan-imagine that. Good old Harry stammered his way through and even stronger statement yesterday that No Gitmo guys will EVER be brought even to US prisons-course they will have to walk that one back LOL

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Wed, 20th May '09 1:28 PM

BTW did you happen to notice that it has been confirmed that Iran just launched a missile capable of reaching Israel for just one of the targets should they choose to attach anything nuclear. So much fr his sweet words to that Toad. He had better stick to owning and running auto companies and banks which of course he doesn't want to do LOL

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 20th May '09 1:42 PM

Ease up on the Kool-aid, Beverly.

Nancy's lying through her teeth and may not survive as Speaker because of it. Speakers of the House do not lie about national security.

Barney Frank has a lot to answer for and hasn't yet. Can you spell S-U-B-P-R-I-M-E ?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Wed, 20th May '09 3:06 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22326959/miller-time-5-19.htm believe Dennis has the most enligtened views o n Biden and Pelosi

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 20th May '09 3:58 PM

Well, Linda, Dennis is always good for a few laughs. A bit over the top, esp regarding Biden.

He noted that Guantanamo is the perfect place to keep terrorists. I agree wholeheartedly, and I suspect in the end it will not be closed. Obama ought to be regretting bigtime having opened that can of worms which the American people do not want to revisit. They instead are focused on the future; they always are.

And what is Obama doing about it?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Wed, 20th May '09 4:35 PM

I thought he was "spot on" with Biden like the lampshade thing on the dog-something to consider -

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 20th May '09 5:11 PM

Well, he is a comedian from SNL.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:27 AM

Collioure, a bipartisan 367-61 vote, the House yesterday May 20th 2009 passed the Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009. It passed the Senate yesterday by a 90-5 margin. I guess that acquitted Barney in the public opinion court. Many people will not be ripped off so easily now.
Collioure, I don't drink kool-aid. I consume food that will keep my brain alert.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:42 AM

Too much Kool-aid again, Beverly.

Credit Cardholder's Bill of Rights Act of 2009 has nothing to do with the subprime mortgage fiasco which is at the root of our financial meltdown, author Barney Frank.

BTW nothing to say about the lies of the Speaker of the House. Lots of evidence that she was informed even though it has suddenly become chic to say otherwise.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090516/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_what_did_she_know



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 7:10 AM

With Andy on here, Beverly, that has nothing to do with Barney. The flip side of the outcome of the credit card thing is that the banks will get their money somehow so it once again pretty much screws the people who follow the rules an d pay on time- just will take a bit. They can most likely look forward to some kind of anual fee or increased interest rates given the 'proper" notice to be FAIR to the deadbeats once again- Linda

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 9:30 AM

Slightly off topic but has anyone seen HBO documentary on Jimmy Carter. He wrote a book about Israel keeping the Palestinians land and how he believes in the interest of peace for Israel and Palestiine would be for Israel to give it back. I agree and I am far from an anti-zionist. If we keep making the same mistakes in middle east we will never have peace. That includes hating Muslims. What a great documentary if you can tear yourselves away from arguing on Salty Dog you should watch it. He is a great man, not CHENEY.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:04 PM

No, Bobolicios I haven't. If it's on comcast's "On Demand" I'll watch it. I am not ant-Zionist either. I just get so frustrated sometimes that I am compelled to express my opinion. I like your username.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:15 PM

BigMama I will look it up for you, I haven't read the book but would like to. I am not ashamed to admit I love Carter. He is a very noble guy and a savvy diplomat who also won nobel peace prize. He started Habitat for Humanity and is a true Christian. I don't think Cheney is good enough to carry his piss pot.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:31 PM

WOW that was certainly not inflammatory, Bobo- LoL

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:39 PM

I am sorry if I offended you Linda. Just the analogy was a good one. By the way I loved it when you said you flip people off when you drive, it was funny. We all do it lets face it.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:42 PM

Wasn't a bit offended just found it curious that in another thread you reference inflammatory statements in the forums that might scare new people off

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 12:57 PM

I meant insulting statements to each other, I did not refer to any one on sploofus. He is a politician Linda. Sometimes we should remember the distinction and I think you know that. Hey you are not going to get me involved in mud slinging. I was talking to BigMama about Jimmy Carter nothing inflammatory in that. I am flattered that you read all my posts and analyze them so critically. Come on please find something better to do.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:02 PM

If your conversation is private try a pm.-works for me-

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:07 PM

Thanks for the tip, you being such a discerning member of sploofus and so full of etiquette.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:15 PM

Bobolicios ,
I have great respect and admiration for President Carter. He kept us out of war during the hostage crises. I don't think many people understand the enormity of his deeds and statue. He is a very humble man who wants peace and tranquility. I know there is no such thing as Utopia. Yet the very fact that he works so diligently to bring peace and tranquility wherever he can speaks volumes about him. The old adage that "people always say good things when you're gone" shouldn't apply to President Carter. His Nobel Prize, hopefully, will let him know he is appreciated.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:21 PM

I believe he is very humble and even the nobel peace prize didn't impress him. He truly is a great American. Oh aren't we supposed to talk privately. Oh well this is a free speech forum after all.

crazy4games
Crazy4games  (Level: 123.0 - Posts: 1020)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:22 PM

Bobo, I find you rude.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 1:31 PM

Good

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 21st May '09 2:39 PM

I see you folks are discussing Clueless Jimmy.

I have really nothing to add about him.

On second thought he had a nice smile and a very unsuccessful Presidency.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 2:53 PM

I think it is a positive hat they lt him out of the "home/asylum" on occasion-but that is just caring me

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:03 PM

Don't like Jimmy either huh? Now that is something, how can you say something bad about Jimmy Carter?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:09 PM

I have nothing bad to say so will go with Andy and the nice smile. The economy was awful during his time and it took Reagan being sworn in to get the hostages back-sweet words don't work with Iran. Notice no big changes for the Palestinians except they are poorer than ever. BTW are you watching the value of our dollar in the world? Keep the wheelbarrow handy while you are doing your flower planting-

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.5 - Posts: 893)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:15 PM

Jimmy has great lips -- and he kisses real good

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:18 PM

You have something against flower planting as well? I know where you are getting and I am taking a wait and see approach. The value of the dollar or any currency is in constant fluctuation. I am not ready to jump on gloom and doom bandwagon. Any concerted effort is better than direction it was going. I do see some positive signs even if you don't . You can't take the economy's temperature every 5 minutes.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:22 PM

Please list.. the positives that is...

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:39 PM

I am looking at this from different perspective than you perhaps. What I would consider a positive you would consider negative. It is clear from your postings the way you feel. I will bow out of this gracefully. I will agree to disagree and until you come up with a better plan and run for office I just call it back seat governing no matter who is in office. Neither party really could have gotten us out of this recession without a struggle (actually depression). So its your floor, I just don't want to debate someone who is so clearly diametricly opposed to my position. Respectfully of course.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:50 PM

I get it- you are Bowing out AGAIN-how many times does this make ??? LOL

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:55 PM

I choose not to argue with someone so hell bent on her point. You will go to any measure to prove it. I don't like beating my head against a brick wall - you. So please let it go.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 21st May '09 3:57 PM

Bobo, it's doesn't matter whether I like or dislike Jimmy Carter.

As President he was rather ineffective.

Now he meddles too much in foreign affairs without the approval of the White House. He and Clinton don't seem to understand that your time in office counts bigtime and after that there is no second chance to rewrite history.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:02 PM

Stop posting and any argument/debate between just you and me STOPS

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:22 PM

How dare you tell me to stop posting. You WILL not win this argument. I will post until the powers that be terminate my membership you can bet on that. As I am sure you will continue to argue with a sign post about everything. Do me a favor don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to yours. If you were in the next car I would flip you off.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:28 PM

Gesus- now I get it if I agree with you although I don't it is a legitimate debate but if I don't I go to extreme measures-talk to yourself or Beverly as she is at least polite enough to talk to you. Politically I disagree with Beverely but she is neither rude nor a lunatic-

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Thu, 21st May '09 4:45 PM


collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 21st May '09 5:44 PM

Thanks for the reference, Judy. I knew Jimmy sided with the Palestinians, but I didn't realize it was that far removed from reality.

The Israelis have treated the Palestinians badly, but the Palestinians have never sought peace.

I'm still waiting for someone to point out to me a Palestinian leader who has sought peace. The Israelis have at times elected men of peace.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 21st May '09 5:54 PM

Beverly, you began this thread by attacking a Republican. You should note that I rarely talk about Republicans and Democrats.

The number of people collecting unemployment is at a record 6.66 million, unemployment claims remain at records highs and there is no end in sight.

Yet our President appears on TV about some technicalities of terrorist trials - in the USA instead of outside the USA.

Does he get it? Does he have his priorities in order?



bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 21st May '09 7:29 PM

I am neither rude nor a lunatic I would just rather converse with people who aren't so abrasive. The player who started the thread was the one I was directing my post to. She responded in kind, I only spoke and gave an opinion to her post. Thats it though someone really needs to write to you on the way you flame on at people. I don't even know you so why do you come off so confrontational. This is it, it makes me too crazy to deal with you. You won't see my posts on your comments again.

kimoira
Kimoira  (Level: 201.7 - Posts: 1190)
Thu, 21st May '09 7:57 PM

Linda rocks

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Thu, 21st May '09 10:14 PM

I bought a house when Jimmy Carter was president - at 16 3/4% interest.

He was a horrible president, though I liked him then as a person.

I don't understand how he developed his stance on Israel. It goes against the Bible and everything Christian, which he always claimed to be. He is an enigma to me.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 8:47 AM

Jan I was talking about Jimmy Carter the man not the president. He is still a great Christian no matter what your beliefs in bible are. You often use it for your own arguments. How can you argue against peace? Using the bible to continue wars that started a couple thousand years ago is crazy. Along with most of your religious right idealogy, you don't sway me nor do your supporters with all the "you are rude" and "Linda rocks" are you really as vindictive as all that. This is a trivia site and I love it so rest assured neither you or all your allies will sway me. I didn't accept your apology way back, you know why. Because of way you treat people that disagree with you. I would like you to just think before your little fingers start the barrage of typing to see if you can get me riled because today I will not respond. That my friends is my silent victory.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 8:51 AM

Very simple just tell Judy, Kim, and Jan or Andy or anyone else who does not agree with you that you were not talking to them

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 9:07 AM

Oops forgot Wendy-she was not talking to you either LOL

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 9:46 AM

JUST LIKE YOUR POSTING ON PELOSI WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES

NO ONE NO ONE There are over 60,000 people on this site I repeat WHO THE H--- CARES!

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 10:07 AM

;d ;d ;d

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 10:09 AM

Obviously YOU do LOL Linda

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 10:21 AM

You know you are right I will own that. I do care it bothers me that someone with your obvious intelligence spends so much time dwelling on politics. Could your talents not be used more purposely elsewhere.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 11:02 AM

LOL

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 11:26 AM

You are the one LOL.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Fri, 22nd May '09 11:41 AM

“To be angry about trifles is mean and childish; to rage and be furious is brutish; and to maintain perpetual wrath is akin to the practice and temper of devils; but to prevent and suppress rising resentment is wise and glorious, is manly and divine.” - Alan Watts

“I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” - Edward Gibbons





lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Fri, 22nd May '09 11:56 AM

"Such wise quotes are lost on those who don't effing get it."
-Lodi

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:13 PM

Jimmy Carter describes himself as a born-again Christian.
Born-again is defined as "synonymous with spiritual rebirth — i.e., salvation. It means having a "personal" faith in Jesus Christ"
Jesus Christ said that He and the Father (God) are one and the same
The Bible (it is a book, so its title should always be capitalized) states that God will "bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee."
Therefore, a born-again Christian who believes in the Bible should be pro-Israel in general.



bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:28 PM

Effing is not a word but point is taken and I can only argue with those who argue back. Carter does not have to be against Israel to want peace with Palestine the two are not mutually exclusive. The Bible is also very specific about raging and ganging up on the meek. What is your point if you have one. Because I don't see where listing J. Carters accomplishments is so erroneous, why did this bring on so much "ranting. What don't you practice what you "effing" preach "get it" no you probably don't or ever will.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:34 PM

THE POINT
Despite what Jimmy Carter may say about wanting peace between Israel and Palestine, he is actively anti-Israel, which a born-again Christian should not be. That does not negate anything positive he has done, nor did I imply that it did.

The only one who seems to be "ranting", my dear, is you.

And "effing" is a great substitute for a less palatable word. Glad you at least got that point.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:37 PM

My Dear, I got the point and it is not palatible to use derogatory language on a chat forum. You are resorting to the lowest common denominator which makes you the ranter. Why don't you take the high road and just say you disagree with Carter's stand on Israel instead of attacking with swear woods in pig latin like 3rd graders.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:41 PM

Judy ROCKS!!

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:44 PM

I think you're confused again. I didn't post any swear word, I simply made a comment on someone else's posting of a substitute word. I have been taking the high road by posting cogent commentary and quotes while you continue to name-call and get upset. Yes, I do not agree with Carter, but I did not call him any names, nor did I call you any names. You need to chill out and read posts with a calmer, clearer head. I've tried to reason with you before to no avail. I thought a 2nd try might do it, since I got sick of your Linda-bashing, but it's obvious that you must be ignored. So I will now return to that previous attitude with you.

La la la la la la (with my fingers in my ears)

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:47 PM

It is hard to believe you are all retired old ladies, you act like you are about 3.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:51 PM

No, you are.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 12:51 PM

Ooops I resorted to lowest common denominator. my bad.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 22nd May '09 1:14 PM

Judy I just read the link from The Camera, an Zionist newspaper. It inaugural statement is for accurate reporting of middle east. Look I went to a predominantly jewish high school in Chicago. My first serious boyfriend was jewish and I have many very good friends from high school on who are jewish. But you can't ignore the paper is a little biased in their criticizm of Carter's book. Carter is nothing if not a peacemaker. I am sure you would have to agree with that. I have not read the book so I can't say but I did see the documentary of his book tour. I have to admire someone at his age to have the fortitude to write a book a stand up for what he believes even if it is not popular. Those are attributes that I strongly believe in. By the way when you search out links you should refrain from clearly what is propaganda for your opinion.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 1:20 PM

Some of my BEST friends were Jewish LOL

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Fri, 22nd May '09 1:23 PM

OR were they Muslims-talk/argue with yourself-I'm out of this ruined thread

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 22nd May '09 2:26 PM

Yea, Bobo, Nancy cared enough to lie to the nation, and for that she deserves to step down.

BTW no one's against peace. It's just that Jimmy doesn't have a clue about how to bring it about. Try Tom Friedma

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 22nd May '09 2:27 PM

Yea, Bobo, Nancy cared enough to lie to the nation, and for that she deserves to step down.

BTW no one's against peace. It's just that Jimmy doesn't have a clue about how to bring it about. Try Tom Friedman in the New York Times for an honest appraisal.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 23rd May '09 9:38 AM

Andy, what is your suggestion for piece? How can you be so critical? If you're not a part of the solution then you are a part of the problem.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 23rd May '09 1:24 PM

Palestines, Iran, and others do not want peace. They want Israel to not exist. That means there can be no peace as long as they exist. That is not Israel's fault. Israel has given, given in, given up land more than they ever should have. Carter, by wanting Israel to give up more, is decidedly anti-Israel, as is anyone else who supports those who would wipe Israel out of existence.

BTW Bobo, you have me mistaken with someone else. I have never apologized to you, because I have never done anything to you, nor have I said anyone rocks to you.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 2:33 PM

Beverly, those folks aren't ready for peace.

The Palestinians have never had a leader who sought peace. They teach hate in their schools. Their leaders abscond with aid from abroad and they invest in terrorism. You cannot name one product that is produced in the Palestinian territories.

The Israelis do have a productive economy but do not treat the Palestinians at all well. They continue to build settlements on land that the Palestinians seek in a peace deal.

Moreover, after the Intifada that began at the end of Clinton's term in office, they no longer seek peace. They do not believe they have a partner for peace talks, they have built a defensive wall to separate Israel from the Palestinian West Bank, and they now respond with greater force to all Palestinian aggression. That Intifada had the effect of taking all the wind out of the sails of the Labor Party, the peace party, in Israel. It has never recovered. Now there is a Center, a Right and but only a feeble Left.

Peace is not a meaningless peace of paper that defines terms that neither side observes; it is people living in harmony. We are a long way from that today, perhaps further away than we were 10 years ago, but we were not really close during the Clinton administration. Arafat never wanted peace.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 23rd May '09 4:07 PM

Andy I read your post with interest because you don't get emotional. Although I may not agree with you politically, you do support your debates with accurate facts and a knowledgeable perspective. At this point I just want to say that anyone who is trying to bring about solutions to peace between Israel and surrounding Arabic countries should be applauded. Even if we don't agree with their suppostion and are pro Zionist we should at least try to seek other solutions. A wall between Israel and Palestine will only bring about more violence and terrriosm. I believe in Israel in its right as a sovereign democratic state. I don't believe you achieve that by denying palestians their right as well. I intend to either buy or get Carters book and read it as I have utmost respect for his knowledge in matters of middle east. Afterall he did win the nobel peace prize for that very thing. Notice there was nothing personal in my position. Nor will I ever again let emotion come into play. No matter what people call me or say about me I am going to let it roll of my back.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 4:41 PM

Bobo, go waste your money on Jimmy's book if you wish. These people are not ready for peace, and the Wall has saved lots of lives. Separation is the wisest approach for the time being.

FYI Clueless Jimmy also negotiated the phony deal between the US and North Korea which allowed the US to send North Korea oil while they secretly continued their nuclear program.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 5:10 PM

Beverly, Dick Morris writes that the credit card reform bill is a fraud.

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/

Hardly does anything to help cardholders. Banking lobby is too strong.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sat, 23rd May '09 5:17 PM

Not to pick a fight, and I understand I'm not really anybody of account around here, but I don't find Bobo offensive. I seem to find her posts amusing, or at least look forward to them somewhat from what I've seen. So she doesn't feel teamed up on I'll just give my opinion and say:

Bobo rocks.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 23rd May '09 5:57 PM

Thanks Andy, I don't agree with your position that wall saves lives. It just creates more alienation a derision. I do want to read the book, or find a copy in library I think it is worth reading. Thanks Stout, I never mean to be offensive and I do get picked on and get too emotional over it. I should just consider the source and I do when I note who is friends with who. It is not the fact of disagreeing it is the way people make you feel as if you don't have a right to post. If you all knew me like family and friends do you would know that just doesn't fly with me. Thank you for the compliment and I hope you continue to enjoy my posting as I will continue to post. As unemotional as possible unless someone starts slinging mud, or says something so ridiculous I have to comment because no one else does. Just because no one comments doesn't mean they agree with you.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 6:03 PM

Well, it does save lives. It keeps terrorists out of Israel, and it keeps Israelis away from Palestinians too. Occasionally Israelis engage in murderous attacks on Pals.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 23rd May '09 6:12 PM

At least you admit that the Israelis engage in murderous attacks. They too are capable of terriorism and bloodshed. It is just I would like to get another perspective on situation there are two sides to every story. Especially in the complicated politics and religion of the middle east.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 6:18 PM

You get two views just by reading European and American newspapers

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 23rd May '09 6:25 PM

I suppose so but I would still like to read his book. Also there are plenty of newspapers out there who have slanted viewpoint. There are also publications whose soul mission is for propaganda for either Zionism or Arabic intent. Some of those newspapers have had links on this site for viewing. I am not interested in biased journallism for any religion or ethnic group.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 6:47 PM

You just contradicted yourself, Bobo.

Clueless Jimmy's not an unbiased observer.


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