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Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4583)
Fri, 22nd May '09 8:33 PM


Beautiful narrative and touching reminder of those who gave their lives...they WERE just kids - quickly becoming men and women.

Lodi  (Level: 108.0 - Posts: 2143)
Sat, 23rd May '09 12:27 AM

Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 636)
Sat, 23rd May '09 1:27 AM

A beautiful narrative, but, unfortunately, not, I think, what the men behind the wall would want. As it says, they were mainly young kids, who would have liked to live their lives, rather than be sent to the slaughter by the politicians and Military Chiefs. As Pete Seeger wrote " Where have all the young men gone, gone to graveyards everyone, when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn." I am quite sure that not one of the dead young men would wish their own sons to suffer the same fate as they did. Yes, lets remember them, but let us not forget that most of them died pointlessly.

Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 23rd May '09 2:54 AM

We don't have Memorial Day here, we are having a Spring Bank Holiday instead. If i may make so bold as to offer a suggestion for some words on this weekend, it would be simply this. Get the troops out of the Middle East and back home to the US.

Collioure  (Level: 115.6 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 23rd May '09 7:27 AM

Thank you, Jank. Memorial Day is not observed over here. We should all remember that the price of freedom is always great.

Bill, as I review the list of American casualties war by war, only the Vietnam War seems pointless. WWII, the Civil War and WWI took the highest tolls. Are you going to argue that those wars were pointless?

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Sat, 23rd May '09 7:56 AM

They seem pointless in retrospect, because we always end up
on friendly terms, and trading with, the countries where the
young men and women fought and died.
And in all countries, the families of those who died, live on with
the pain and loss.
If the young people did not die, they live forever with the knowledge
of what they did and the horrors they witnessed.
The Bible says "Thou shalt not kill"

Mplaw51  (Level: 185.5 - Posts: 1580)
Sat, 23rd May '09 8:04 AM

Thank you, Jank, that was touching and timely.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4583)
Sat, 23rd May '09 8:10 AM

That IS the point. Get rid of the evil, then help rebuild and become friends. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.

War is little, war is big. My son had his first fight with a young man on his first day of school in 1st grade. (I never even found out what it was about). What I do know is that by the end of that week, they had become best friends and are friends to this day, 29 years later. That is a microcosm of war.

"Deliver us from evil." There are evils in the world, and though some are killed in battle, many more are saved because of it. The Civil War is a perfect example of that.

600,000 people were killed, and 4 million slaves were freed.

The Commandment is correctly translated "Thou shalt not murder." That is not the same as war to protect and free innocents.

John 15:13: Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (Whether they be old or new friends)

Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 636)
Sat, 23rd May '09 9:25 AM

I suggest that the loss of life in WWI was pointless, when young men were sent into battle against machine guns because some old Fart of a general thought it was a good idea to take a position which had been given up the day before. All war is pointless, let the selfish polititians fight amongst themselves if they cant get round a table and negotiate. What was so special about Vietnam, that it was the only pointless war.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.5 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 23rd May '09 11:29 AM

Thank you Jan for reminding all of us what this day is supposed to be about-Linda

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