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bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 11:14 AM

CAN SARAH PALIN BE SERIOUS?

Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin was parodied several times on SNL (saturday Night Live). She is now making herself avialable for the cameras. After a failed attempt at President, excuse I meant Vice President on the Republican ticket with John McCain, one wonders is she exposing herself to the cameras for another run at becoming either a president or vice presdential candidacy? Or could it be she just loves the attention? You betcha ‘ya!




caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 11:31 AM

Now that is what I like to see-dragging Sarah out of the closet for a wholesome demon-purging BASH... GESUS!!!!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 11:35 AM

I imagine she wants to run.

I just wonder what she might sound like if she had time to get up to speed on national issues. She's a smart lady with good political instincts.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 11:44 AM

You have got to be kidding! I think I read or heard somewhere that she may be a candidate. What a waste of money.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 1:33 PM

I don't know, Bobo.

If Obama doesn't turn things around, the Republican nomination will be pursued as vigorously in 2012 as was the Democratic nomination last year.

The Left dissed this lady in 2008 and she wasn't up to speed, but she's no dummie. Moreover, she's well to the right on social issues which plays well in Republican primaries.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 2:19 PM

I think she's great, but I pray she doesn't run because if you thought the media was brutal before, we ain't seen nothing yet. An entire media force against you - nobody could stand up to that. She would have no chance to win whatsoever.

So far my money is on Romney because of his business acumen. But I certainly don't mind if someone better comes along. It's awhile still. I'm still good for J.C Watts if he runs and I'm still good for Duncan Hunter.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 2:21 PM

She's a smart lady with good political instincts......collioure

I didn't have you down as much of a comedian, but that's hilarious, well done.



felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 3:30 PM

I agree, let's bash Palin and give the dumbass we elected a break.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 3:30 PM

Judge Judy says much the same thing and she's a Democrat, Dave.

Sarah wouldn't be my choice, but she's a fine governor and a candidate not to be dismissed lightly.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.3 - Posts: 5315)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 8:13 PM

I guess I've missed seeing Sarah Palin on TV lately. Is she calling press conferences to make announcements - or is the press following her and she responds when questioned?

I think she got a raw deal in the past election. She was thrown onto the world stage without any grooming and not enough experience for what she had to face. I think she is a lot smarter and more savvy than she was able to show under the circumstances.

I hope she does go on to seek higher office, but I hope it isn't in the next presidential election. She still won't be ready. But a few terms as a senator or representative would be a good learning ground for her.

I just don't think she is fair game for your criticism, Bigmama.

mrbojangles
Mrbojangles  (Level: 16.6 - Posts: 231)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 8:20 PM

Happy hour thoughts.

Clevercloggs, I see why you have that name. (sorry Andy)

I think Palin and Coulter should be a team. They would capture the right, far right, extreme far right , and the Martians.

I happened to watch Sean "Insanity" and Lush "Limblablabla....." together last week. For the life of me I cannot understand why they are against same sex marriage.

Mayby their closets doors are stuck.


Bo


bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 8:33 PM

You are too funny Mr. Bo. I won't respond to any Palin bashing I think it was done adequately by press. I mean really she is talented she never said a single intelligent thing. I watched so many of her interviews and she embarrassed herself and the republican party. She needs to stay in Alaska or maybe the far side of the moon. How can anyone think she is representative of American women.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 10:03 PM

Perhaps she should have followed the lead of TOTUS. He reads well if some guy doesn't screw up unless some underling screws up the prompter script then talk about making a fool of yourself.....

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Sun, 7th Jun '09 10:16 PM

This thread is about Sarah Palin and I don't think she could read off a teleprompter with intelligence. I had an open mind to her in the beginning until I started seeing some of her interviews and reading articles where she was interviewed on issues. She was very lame.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 12:58 AM

She appeared very lame because that's exactly what the media wanted you to think - and they made sure everything they used shoved you in that direction.

Except - she is a Conservative and has conservative beliefs. It's one thing to not agree, but if you seriously think ALL conservative beliefs are lame, then I guess your opinion is really based on that as much as anything. Which is fine .... just, that really has nothing to do with Ms. Palin. That has to do with all us conservatives, and you would have the same opinion of us all.

cujgie
Cujgie  (Level: 173.5 - Posts: 754)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:03 AM

So "all" those interviews and campaign appearances/speeches were phony?

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:07 AM

Not phony - just very slanted interview questions and coverage.

And remember the fake "kill him" yell that someone "reported" hearing, which the secret service debunked. But since the media said it, it must be true, and many believe it no matter was the secret service says.

I think she was thrown to the wolves and they were drooling.

cujgie
Cujgie  (Level: 173.5 - Posts: 754)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:28 AM

I saw the news film the very day that the guy yelled "Kill 'im," and the camera even panned over to him waving his arms around above his head as he shouted. In fact, that film was shown several times that day during news reports.

The only thing is, the guy was referring to Ayers, not to Obama.

cujgie
Cujgie  (Level: 173.5 - Posts: 754)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:30 AM

I was glued to my tv set the entire campaign. I saw Palin at lots of rallys and campaign stops. I heard her speeches. Nothing was rigged by the news people or interviews.

I was not impressed.

sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:31 AM

It was painfully obvious that Palin was not ready to be VP. That assessment is not the result of attacks by liberal media. She could not answer even basic questions.

She needs to be involved in national politics and gain an understanding of international issues.

Every Republican that I've had conservations with has said that she was not ready to be a heartbeat away. There is no way the election should have been the lopsided victory it was.

Republicans need to find a voice that is rational and presents a strong case for handling the economy in a different way. In the economy hasn't had a strong recovery by the next election then the Republicans will have the presidency and control of the legislature.



clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 2:19 AM

I have not, and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you.
Sarah Palin
Asked if she had never met a foreign head of state, despite the fact that every US vice-president in the last 32 years had met a foreign head of state prior to taking office, ABC News interview, September 11, 2008.

Is that the kind of "devious" media question that er......."confused" her ?

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 8:14 AM

Because obviously Joe Biden is doing such a better job with all his vast experience.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:58 AM

I'm sorry, i thought we were discussing Palin. It's like giving Idi Amin a pass because Pol Pot was "worse".

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 10:06 AM

That is what is done here, Dave, cannot find a concrete positive about the current pres-bash the last

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 10:30 AM

Dave, my point is no one person controls where any thread goes. The individual who started this thread interjected a bash on Cheney in the thread about British politics. Someone else who is thought extremely funny by many brought in Hannity and Limbaugh. A thread goes where it goes. One can respond or skip a comment but not control the thread-Linda

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 11:22 AM

I'm a recovering alcoholic / addict Linda, controlling anyone or anything is an anaethema to me now days. I just used that old debating technique of not letting someone change the subject when i'd just disproved a previous conjecture. Believe me, after The Shrub, the US did not need the embarrasment of Palin. Obama is regarded as an ariculate and sensitive guy, the rest of the world still has hope.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 11:23 AM

Freudian slip...articulate.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.6 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 11:31 AM

Does she yet know where Africa is?
Sorry, she might get away with a bit of very provincial government, but please don't let her loose for your own sakes, USians!

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 11:35 AM

I get you point, Dave. The logical way to avoid too much straying from the original thread would be simply to skip off topic post as there is no chat moderator. People don't though-have the irresistible urge to reply. I often fall into that category. It is the same with folks who don't want anything controversial like politics or religion-skip the threads and they will disappear. That does ot happen either. Some folks come up with very catchy threads like the 'porno name" one and they get responses and many views but a controversy is an attention-getter. That too is a fact of life.

redwingchick
Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 12:01 PM

You know what kills me? Those women's rights takes a jab groups pop up when Bill O'Reilly takes a mild jab at Helen Thomas but where are they when Sarah Palin is being villified by the press and degraded in an Eminem video? Noweher to be seen. Those groups claim to fight for women but they only fight for LIBERAL women whose views are the same as theirs. If she was a Dem they would have been all over it. It's pathetic. McCain through her to the wolves and condescended to her from the start. "I am so proud of her". What is she, his little granddaughter? He would never have said he was "proud" of a male VP candidate. He threw her to the wolves and when he lost the election and the press blamed her he never did anything to defend her.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 12:05 PM

They defend politically correct women- just like the ACLU takes on PC cases- Linda

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 1:46 PM


Caramel1

Let me be perfectly clear, interjecting a bash on Cheney in the thread about British politics,was not meant to deviate from the British politics it was to show a clear parallel.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 2:03 PM

No one in that thread cared .....

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 3:05 PM

Wow, you get to speak for everyone in that thread ? I'm depressed.....i mean impressed.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 3:30 PM

No, but there are an ample amount of posts believe started by Beverly about how evil Cheney is. my bad for thinking that Surreyman and MOST of the people talking about British politics had heard enough of that sh- but guess not,huh?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 3:43 PM

I remember reading a very good book in high school that was called "That Was Then, This is Now"- thought it an excellent book then and think it relevant now

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 3:49 PM


Salzypat

You just don't think she is fair game for my criticism.

That is very kind of you. I certainly think she deserves as much exposure as she can get. As governor of Alaska, Palin's approval rating has ranged from a high of 93% in June 2007 to 54% in May 2009. Wow... she was even dis -invited to speak at the Republican dinner tonight, as of 6-8-09. Now, I hear she can attend; she just can't speak. Perhaps it may have lot to do with the depths of her profound lack of substance like most pigs-in-a-poke are.

She is pig-in-a-poke, primarily because has a lot of beautiful suits, hairstyles, and glasses; however, she is very scarce on domestic and world issues. I think you made an excellent argument. May I suggest in addition to a couple of Congressional terms a GPS; I'd hate to see her get lost on camera.


bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 3:53 PM

She needs a lot more than experience and a GPS. I wouldn't vote for her if she had a sex change. She is a rube.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 4:28 PM

Shall we run a contest on what GPS should stand for ? Gross personality sorted ?

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 5:02 PM

For anyone in the realm of reality bashing Palin does not make the president of this Country look any smarter. My dog loves to kick grass over his poop, too, but then again, he did vote for Obama.

fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.0 - Posts: 240)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 7:09 PM

Bigmama is trying to get us off topic because her homeboy is doing such a great job ruining our country.

BTW, Obama had ZERO experience before he took office.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 7:22 PM

I don't think that's her intent. She's quite the partisan and wants to celebrate whatever he does. Before the results - either positive or negative - are in.

I think he deserves a chance to pursue his new approaches to various problems. At the same time his stimulus plan is coming under more scrutiny. Inasmuch as little of the spending is off and running, one wonders why the bill had to rushed. And, of course, he hasn't been focused on the economy, the principal reason he was chosen over McCain.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 7:35 PM

Andy
You think he deserves a chance to pursue his new approaches to various problems?Then STFU, ex-expatriate. President Obama hasn't been focused on the economy? What the hell are you? One minute you're this way; the next minute you're not . You sound like a nut case. No wonder you left this nation, you say even tell which way is up.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 7:48 PM

Beverly, I've been saying it for over a month.

He hasn't been focused on the economy, and the economy is the reason he won decisively. Unfortunately, he has to an extent ignored the hand he was dealt to try to implement the ideological program he prefers.

He got all tied up in Guantanamo which the country does not want him to touch. Then he went abroad.

Once again, "It's the economy, stupid." Fix that and everything else becomes more possible.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 8:21 PM

Andy

Stupid? Obama's rating have fallen because of shrills like you or should I low-information voters repeating Right Wing Dings Pessimism. It's contagious for you since see one thing one minute and something else the next. A few threads ago you said "wait and see". What kind of weed do you smoke to make you so uncertain? What do you think the economy would look like if the Alzheimer's candidate were in office now? He voted with Bush.


jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 8:26 PM

Who is the Alzheimer's Candidate?

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 8:34 PM


Fainodraino
Obama had ZERO experience before he took office is another falsehood repeated quite often by low-information voters. If, you can go to the President's congressional records as a Illinois Senator and his time in The U.S.Congress all that you say about experience will be refuted. Or, you can fact check it. Even if my homeboy had ZERO experience, he has done more in 5 months than Palin, Bush and Regan.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 8:57 PM

Janice
That would be McCain.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:10 PM

That's kind of mean, then. Because even his 95-year-old mom is still sharp and active, as we may expect Senator McCain to be.

Except when he talks about the economy. Sigh............But at least he was honest when he said he didn't know much about it. And that signed the end of his presidential run. Wish it had happened sooner, though.

fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.0 - Posts: 240)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:11 PM

Thank you for insulting me, as most liberals do.

Only a fanboy would say that Obama had experience before he became president. There was evidence before he became president, and plenty since he became president.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:11 PM

Should add, McCain is still sharp in spite of 5 years as a POW, being tortured, though he could have been released sooner but he chose to stay with his men.

fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.0 - Posts: 240)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:17 PM

She'll never understand things like that, Jank.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:26 PM

In all honesty, Faino, I don't understand it either. There's just no way I can understand that kind of personal strength and character and love for America and Americans and fellow military to lay down your own freedom to continue being tortured and possibly be killed. What a role model for all Americans.

I am ashamed to admit I don't know that I have that kind of character and love for others. I know I'm supposed to as a Christian. And I'm grateful that so far I haven't been tested. Sen. McCain (and many, many like him in all wars) have my utmost, greatest respect.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 117.7 - Posts: 1745)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 9:36 PM

Yes he is to be admired for his strength of fortitude but some 40 years later that doesn't equate to a good president. So what is your point. The guy was and is in poor health and by your own admittance didn't have clue one what to do about economy. Why do you harp on about what a great man he was. So are many unsung heroes of wars that don't seek political office on their wartime valor. Whats your point?

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 10:07 PM

My point is that he doesn't have Alzheimer's, as Beverly called him the Alzheimer's candidate, which I thought was in poor taste considering all he's been through. My mom died of Alzheimer's, and I think it's a particularly inappropriate thing to call someone who doesn't have the disease, as he doesn't, even though I did not want him to be president and did not vote for him.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 8th Jun '09 10:31 PM

Done more in 5 months...........? I'll have what she's drinking. LMAO!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Tue, 9th Jun '09 4:32 AM

Beverly, yesterday even Obama and his advisors recognized difficulties with his economic recovery efforts. I'm not clamoring for results today. I understand these things take time. The point is he has not been focused on Problem #1 for most Americans.

At the same time all this happy talk about these mythical "jobs saved" while unemployment is skyrocketing is laughable – and you lacked the whiles to see thru this ruse.


jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 9th Jun '09 7:57 PM

Couldn't pretty much everyone who had a job on January 20, 2009 who still has the same job fall under the category of saved jobs under this strange way of spinning? Hmmmm....wonder how many jobs all the Republican and Democrat presidents have saved since 1776?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Tue, 9th Jun '09 8:32 PM

Note to Faino: believe "liberal' is out now PC to be some kind of "progressive" nicer ring


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