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sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.3 - Posts: 337)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 12:46 AM

RESPONSE TO THE SUBMITTED QUIZ

I have submitted a new quiz to the editors, and about 10 days ago the message was "There are 0 quizzes ahead of this one in the review queue".
But there is no further action, So, does it mean that this editor is on vacation?


Sploofus Editor
Sploofishy (Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 12:59 AM

A quiz does stay with an editor once the editor has begun work on it. If the editor encounter a problem with the quiz, or had to stop editing for some reason, then it would indeed remain in the queue until they return to it. Since we are all volunteers, our other lives intrude from time to time.

Occasionally, a quiz needs to be looked at by Sploofus himself to make a ruling on some gray area, so that could be the case as well.

mrsgc
Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 2:32 AM

This does seem to happen pretty often - the reasons given by Sploofishy are the ones most of the Editors have posted at one point of another in reply.

I still puzzle over this though - If the Editors take the quizzes to be editted one at a time I do not see why this happens so frequently.
If they collect them in batches of for example 10 then yes I can understand that life may get in the way by the tiem they get to deal with all of them.

If you take into account that: 1) free members can not post on this board. 2)Many who can do not bother to say if there is a problem. 3) People who have complained before may just not bother to mention it again ( I have had a few delayed quizzes since last mentioning it here) Then I think this could be a larger problem than it would appear from reading this board.


mrsgc
Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 2:36 AM

... and, of course, now all the Editors are 'faceless' you can not even tell if it is the same person who is perhaps just slower and more meticulous or a new Editor being extra careful.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 7:17 AM

It actually happens far less than you think. Consider that when a quiz is stuck in the queue for a long time, a player is apt to mention it, so there is an artificially inflated SENSE of how often it is. Keep in mind how many quizzes are approved every week. Tons! The actual percentage of quizzes that get "stuck" in the queue is very low. I'm sorry it seems otherwise, but keep in mind that to every player, their quiz is most important.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 7:23 AM

Yes mrsgc, we do take the quizzes one at a time. Usually if an editor is sitting on a quiz, for whatever reason, it usually does not take long to get back to it. A quiz turned over to Sploofus often takes much longer.

Unfortunately there is no way to communicate between editors and members outside of the quiz itself. Often we know why a member's quiz was turned over but cannot say anything because this is a public forum. People often question in the forums why a quiz is being held up, but it is impossible to comment on the particular reason for privacy's sake. And would you really want the reason posted for all of Sploofus to see?

Sploofus Maximus

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 9:26 AM

We have recently increased our number of members - so short a time ago we hit the 10,000 mark, but now we are well over 11,000! The sheer numbers of quizzes submitted slows down the queue!

A lot of 1st time authors are submitting quizzes which often need to be sent back two or three times for revisions. We have also had a recent plague of cut&paste quizzes from websites, or copied from books. This is an absolute no-no here at Sploofus and the reason the editorial process was begun.

I know that I am editing much more slowly and carefully because of this. And there are several quizzes that have been sent to Justin for his final determination, which is often slow in coming. [The guy is extremely busy trying to make this site better, and keep it afloat, along with trying to earn a living!]

All of the editors believe that the editing process helps to make Sploofus the BEST trivia website in cyberspace! I would hope that quiz authors would agree! It's not a perfect system,a nd we are only human...we make mistakes, things slip by, but for the most part, the level of quality in Sploofus quizzes has greatly increased since the editing began.

Here are some stats for you...at the time I am writing this I see that there are 4 (out of 18) editors logged in. Our quiz queue shows 95 "unowned" (newly submitted) quizzes and 30 "owned" (my guess would be that well over half of the owned quizzes are waiting for Justin). [FYI, I do not "own" any quizzes at this time! I have sent back several quizzes for revision, but they don't show up in the queue until they are resubmitted - then they open first, automatically, as soon as I log into the editing page. I CANNOT edit a new quiz until I have dealt with the resubmission, either by launching it, returning it, or sending it to Justin.]

I am not editing now, as I am here chatting! But when I do edit I usually spend about an hour and get through about 6 quizzes. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Lately, if I edit 6, I have only launched 2 of them, and had to send the other 4 back for more work.

Please just have patience...more Sploofers means more quizzes and more variety and fun for all of us in the long run!

sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.3 - Posts: 337)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 9:46 AM

Thank you all for your time and your responses.

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 12:39 PM

Plagiarism shouldn't be a problem for quiz queues, insofar as everyone knows before they even read the rules that plagiarism is verboten.
Then it's reinforced when they sign up.
Then if they still haven't figured it out by the time they start writing quizzes, they probably get a reprimand (though in all likelihood it was done in bad faith).
A second instance should mean instant banishment. Meaning the possible plagiarist population in the community at any given time can only be those who have yet to write their second quiz and/or who don't read these threads.
People get kicked out for foul language, which is a constitutional right, so they certainly shouldn't be allowed to remain if they plagiarize, which is actually a proper crime.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 12:58 PM

You are absolutely right Jedley about the plagiarism bit. Most of the time, the first offense is not intentional, or at the very least we give the user the benefit of the doubt. The only problem is that the plagiarized quizzes are turned over to Justin (along with any other problematic quizzes) as he is the only one who can do the "banishing". Sometimes his queue gets backed up and he often takes longer to get to his queue than the editors sometimes do. Plus he has the problem quizzes that often take some looking into so his queue just doesn't move as fast.

Sploofus Maximus

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Thu, 27th Apr '06 1:09 PM

Please also keep in mind that the line between a quiz that is plagiarized and one that is not is often VERY thin. It usually ends up sparking conversation between the editors that may last as long as a few days before we come to some decision about it.
Unfortunately everything is not just black and white. I wish that it were...editing would be so simple.

aimee12
Aimee12  (Level: 58.6 - Posts: 96)
Thu, 27th Apr '06 9:51 PM

I don't actually have a problem with the editing problem, but I do have a question...why are there 11,000+ members and only 18 editors? Is it possible to add more? Again, I don't know the selection process, but it seems like a good idea, right?

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Fri, 28th Apr '06 2:04 AM

We have added 4 new editors over the past 4 months (or so). We are currently discussing possible candidates for additional editors.

But the quiz queue is rarely over 100 and regularly gets down to zero (unowned quizzes, anyway), and this is still considered a reasonable and manageable number for the number of editors we currently have.

aimee12
Aimee12  (Level: 58.6 - Posts: 96)
Fri, 28th Apr '06 8:08 AM

ahhh, okay - just wondering. Thanks!

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 133.9 - Posts: 3777)
Fri, 28th Apr '06 8:29 AM

Are those bottles of coffee in your profile picture??? I never saw coffee in long necks before...hmmmm

aimee12
Aimee12  (Level: 58.6 - Posts: 96)
Fri, 28th Apr '06 1:52 PM

ummmmm coffee, yes - it's a new bottle brewed variety...


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