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sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 8:06 AM

AHMADINEJAD THE WINNER :(

So sorry for the folks in Iran.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 8:15 AM

Listened to Charles Krauthammer last night and hoping he puts his take up somewhere so I can post it. He said the results were a given and that there would perhaps have been a change in tone if the other guy had won. He also said that no matter who won, there would be no policy change as the religious leader calls the shots. His view was that the opening might come if the young people mainly see that the election was blatantly rigged and a move begins to overthrow those who rule-been done before. His advice to Obama was to encourage that behind the scenes perhaps or at least stay out of it. I did not say what he said well but unless te religious rulers change not much will change in Iran. Respect his thoughts as he is a truly brilliant man- Linda

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 8:27 AM

Even though the "Supreme Leader" calls the shots, it would have given some hope to those who disagree.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 8:50 AM

Touché, Sandy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8098305.stm
Mousavi's campaign HQ,have sealed off preventing his supporters from holding a news conference.
People have beat with truncheons as small groups gather to protest.

I smell a rat… Ahmadinejad winning strongly even in the heartland of Mr Mousavi, the main opposition contender.


caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 9:09 AM

Of course the election is not honest but policy is determined by the religious folks currently in power. The runner-up had a different tone but he does not make Iran's policies so his policies would have been the same. The hope is that the people will get the regime of the religious leaders changed without too much damage to the rest of the world.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 10:40 AM

Well, no surprises. Remember Saddam Hussein used to win with 99% of the vote. Or so he always reported.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 10:45 AM

Caramel1

Of course the election is not honest

That's what they, and millions of US ians, were saying when The Shrub was granted a second term.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 10:49 AM

Could be true but again haven't a clue what that has to do with the current elections in Iran..

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 10:51 AM

Actually, Dave, believe the most controversy election results came in his Bush's election....

didb72
Didb72  (Level: 210.0 - Posts: 243)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 11:18 AM

As a teenager I went to school with two guys who had fled, with their families, Khomeini and Iran, that was 20 years ago. Now, I wonder whether they will ever be back into their fatherland one day or not. Cheers. Didier

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 11:22 AM

You don't see what you accusing the Iranians of fiddling an election has to do with the US fiddling one ? Perhaps we should just get everyone to post "Iranians nasty, US ians nice", would that make you happy ? And no Andy (preempting the tirade), i'm not supporting the Iranians now, no more than i'm supporting the US in all they do and say either.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 11:27 AM

Please make the connection between the Bush elections and the current elections in Iran. Those same religious guys have been in control long before Bush and things have not been pleasant for many in Iran for a very long time..

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 13th Jun '09 3:54 PM

That's OK, Dave.

We know you don't like the USA, or at least Bush.




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