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goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 12:22 AM

AND UM.......

I just watched Michelle Pfeiffer on David Letterman and counted at least 30 (and I missed a bunch) "and um's". It was one of the worst interviews I have ever seen. I wonder if it is like a nervous tic? I will say that she looks fantastic! but I have no desire to ever see another interview with her.


and um....that's all.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 12:24 AM

She talked? I can never stop looking at her long enough to hear what she says.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 12:36 AM

When I was in high school, I took public speaking as a class. You obviously learned to give speeches but as you talked, the teacher (and the rest of the class) marked down every time you said "um, uhhh, you know," and all those poor speaking habits that people have. We had district and state competitions in speech and in retrospect, it was one of the best classes I have ever taken. To this day, I bristle at poor speaking habits and am conscious of the things I say, just as if I were still being critiqued by the judges.



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 1:01 AM

I took a public speaking class at the community college almost 20 years ago to deal with a paralyzing fear of standing up and talking to a group. Class turns out to be me in my mid-40s then, and a bunch of 19 and 20-year-olds, which was amazing for my confidence. They didn't intimidate me at all the way people my own age would have. For my final I gave Chief Seattle's speech and got a standing O and an A for the semester.

Little did I realize then it would someday stand me in such good stead as the trivia mistress. I'd never have been able to make myself do it without that class.



fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 1:04 AM

I heard once that is an inability to allow for quiet - people who say, um, like, can't let there be a pause in their speech. I don't know if it comes from nervousness or the tendency for others to jump in with their own thoughts at the first sign of a breather.

Just pause and think.....then say what you want without all the ums.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 2:40 AM

I am so tired of hearing people say "actually" every fifth word.



It actually comes out like this:
I am actually so tired of actually hearing people say "actually" every fifth word.......actually!!!


~Bev

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.6 - Posts: 893)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 2:55 AM

Donna .... I'm beyond impressed ... Chief Seattle's speech (assuming you're talking about the one which ends with "There is no death, only a change of worlds.") is long, and I would imagine challenging. I salute you.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 8:04 AM

Oh, gosh, don't be quite that impressed. I meant to say the letter, always got those two mixed up because I made a "speech" of the letter.

Both beautiful and stirring, but biggo diffo to memorize!

Actually, we didn't quite have to memorize, just know it well enough to make it with one 4X6 index card of notes.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 8:11 AM

I'm taking a speech class now. They videotaped us Monday night giving a 3 minute speech. I've been too nervous to look at it yet. Great job, Smoke. I know the fear you speak of.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:25 AM

I forgot about the word "like." I was like, this and then he was like, and we were all like. Every time I hear that, I want to scream. A speech class would nip that right in the bud.

We always had to make up our on speeches, which was the hard part for me. We were graded on the quality of the speech, not just the delivery. We could write and practice our speeches, but not take it to the podium with us. I think its more difficult to refrain from bad habits when you are speaking to a crowd in your own words, rather than reading directly from your notes or from prepared text.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21604)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:29 AM

I was taught that "eye contact" made for a good speaker too... Believe the ummms were a big factor in killing the Caroline Kennedy thing along with the ya know? - could have been a whole bigger issue

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:39 AM

My speech class was an absolute blast. (i, the 40 something with the 20 somethings, also. One was a bartender. She always came straight from work for the class. I'll NEVER forget this one thing about the class. She wore this open midriff top with a big heart cut into the top that - well, bespoke of where she worked, shall we say. She was probably the most popular person in the class. ha)

I'll never forget my last speech to these babies.....

Something on the order that at their age, it was time for someone of my age to share with them the wisdom of my experiences - both good and bad - on that one subject that obsesses them at their age.

They dream of it, fantasize about it, buy magazines and read articles about it to figure out exactly what they wanted everything to look like and feel like and smell like......I told them they needed to prepare ahead of time so they wouldn't get hurt, but so the experience would be every wonderful thing they'd always hoped it would be. But that if they didn't go into the experience prepared, they could make a mistake that could affect their lives for a long time into the future. Prepare, read the right materials, and with what I was going to now share, their first time can be everything they dreamed of. I was going to share the most intimate and secret memories of my "first time."

(I saw their faces. I had them in the palm of my hand. They couldn't believe this "old woman" was going to share such information. You could cut the tension with a knife.)

Then I said,

"Of course, by now, all of you have figured out that I'm going to tell you about the joy of...














BUYING YOUR FIRST NEW CAR!!!!!!!"



lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:47 AM

hahahaha, perfect! You drew them in and captured their attention. I bet you nailed it. No pun intended.

1mks
1mks  (Level: 211.2 - Posts: 5887)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:50 AM

I just about spit coffee all over my monitor. Thanks for my first laugh of the day. Would have loved to have been there!

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21604)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:54 AM

good one, Jan

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 9:59 AM

Janice,
I fell for it too, I was reading your post waiting for the details...LOL!!!

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 10:02 AM

Did you have a hard time getting it back together after all the ROFL, or was that the end of the speech?

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 10:14 AM

There were audible groans, but I came prepared with the best and worst examples of my buying experience. Plus, I had a friend who sold cars and I had learned a LOT of the questionable (if not downright unethical) practices where he worked - till he quit because of it.

For example, it was easy to get them back on topic when I asked them if they had ever heard that when you have someone with you when buying a car, and you're both in the salesman's office making your offer, and the salesman leaves to go talk to his manager, there is actually a microphone in his office so that they can listen to anything you discuss about your offer or what you're thinking or planning. That way they can design the salesman's strategy for when he returns to the office.

Doesn't take long to get their attention when that's your next point.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 10:26 AM

Those sneaky a-holes!

I bet they got an earful when Scott and I bought the Camry. It went down a little something like this:

Car Salesman: I'll be right back.

Lori: I'm not buying a $%$#$$ car from these $%$#$$ #$##$#'s! If they think they are going to sell us the same $%$#$%$ car for more than we can get it somewhere else, well they can take this #$#$#$ Camry and stick it up their ##@#@# #$@#$@. Let's not even wait for that $#$#$#, let's just go right now. I don't care if I pay MORE for it, I'm not buying from these #$#@#$#. Get the diaperbag, let's just ##$##@# go and let that ##$#$#$ find an empty room.

Scott: Ok

Car Salesman: Boy do I have a deal for you guys!

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 10:28 AM

lolol! You got it!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 17th Jun '09 10:37 AM

Lodi, I think I'd have rather written my own speech, it may have been easier to remember my own thoughts and words, rather than trying to recite someone else's. It almost felt like an acting exercise, doing the chief's letter.

We had done some earlier classwork we wrote ourselves (tongue twisters were fun), but the little darlings whined and complained that this was supposed to be a SPEAKING class, not a WRITING class, so maybe she backed off on the lesson plan.

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Thu, 18th Jun '09 11:45 AM

I, um, dont know why, um, people are actually getting, um, excited over this. Who cares, um, how she talks, she, um, still looks good for her, um, age.

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Thu, 18th Jun '09 11:46 AM

I was , um, refering to, um, Lodi here, um, of corse, um actually.


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