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sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 26th Jun '09 5:00 PM

WIMBLEDON

I'm not a huge tennis fan, but the Haas vs Cilic match was pretty incredible. And to be continued.. How nice to have something fun to watch, when it's too damn hot to go outside.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 6:15 AM

Yep - glued to the telly for these two weeks!
I have to be a fan - Wimbledon's my home town.
If you see that church in the background of the panoramic shots, that's where I was married.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 6:33 AM

And you finally have a player in the top echelons from the UK (well, up north they say, from Scotland).

Here in the US I think ESPN has finally stopped trying to tell us that this finally would be Andy Roddick's year. It's never going to be Andy Roddick's year. The Cubs will win the World Series before Roddick ever pockets a few Grand Slam titles.

I prefer to watch the ladies because they are so unpredictable, but Justine is gone and the beautiful Shrieky is recovering from injury.

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 7:06 AM

Rafa's injured, Roger is in decline (but still better than nearly everyone else!) and his side of the draw is pretty tough. I had Andy Murray pegged for a Slam next year, but there's no time like the present...

And Murray is (I think) the only player on the mens tour to have a favourable head to head with Federer - 6 wins to 2 losses - apart from Nadal. He's serving near perfectly, is one of the few players who can adjust strategies mid-game, returns nearly every service and I think ol' Roger is a little freaked out by him.
And he doesn't really like grass all that much.

If he manages to win, I'll not care if Scotland never win at anything else ever again! (Surrey: howzat for a one-liner set-up?! )



surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 7:50 AM

Must admit I'm still not confident with Murray, as with dear old Tim.
I'd go for Fed this year.
Not very interested in the other ping-pong matches (duck!).
Where's Scotland?

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 7:56 AM

I think Federer will probably take it as well. I was sorry to see Nadal won't be playing. Last year's final was great to watch.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 27th Jun '09 10:56 AM

I hope our valiant Brit player comes through this afternoon. If he doesn't he's a useless Jock of course !

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 28th Jun '09 1:36 AM

What a performance by the valiant Brit, he was outstanding. In this form a Federer / Murray final would be a tennis smorgasbord.

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.5 - Posts: 911)
Sun, 28th Jun '09 4:08 AM

I'm pretty glued to Wimbledon too although work keeps getting in the way. I think Murray has a great chance. He is making playing tennis look mighty easy lately.
My sister lives in Wimbledon she says that people (maybe as many as 1500) are camping in the park near her house. They are the queue for Wimbledon.
By the way Alan I passed your church last night, I think, on my way through Wimbledon. Next time I will bow as I pass now that I know that such an illustrious Sploofuser was married there Lol.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 28th Jun '09 5:04 AM

St. Mary's?
Saw the other day that they've had to close off St. Mary's grounds 'cos the 'flat gravestone' area became full of parked cars on 'em!
Didn't realise there was another Don amongst us!

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.3 - Posts: 5488)
Sun, 28th Jun '09 10:32 AM

Did you all hear about the 17 year old from Marietta Georgia that pulled an upset at Wimbleton? I was reading it this morning...
Vickie

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 28th Jun '09 12:13 PM

I watched part of that match, impressive.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 10:19 AM

And today we're suffering - and Murray will be playing in - towards 90F and max humidity!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 10:59 AM

It is hot isn't it ? I have a sun trap in my back garden, and it's over ninety there. Murray should be on in around an hour now, i really hope he turns on the style again. I must confess i wasn't fond of his arrogance at first, i wonder why ? But he seems to have mellowed,

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 12:09 PM

The Centre Court roof's closed for the first time!
Crazy - we have a cloudless sky and boiling sun here - Wimbledon's just 30 minutes away and look at it!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 3:40 AM

Well, he's the Brilliant Brit rather than the Scurrillous Scot ... so far!
What a match, eh!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 4:29 AM

What a match, and we've got to go through it all again on Wednesday !!!! The weather thing is freaky. It was so dark here on Saturday, prior to a hell of a storm, that my solar garden lights came on. You guessed it, they were playing just over 20 miles away in Wimbledon.

pierre
Pierre  (Level: 192.5 - Posts: 24)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 4:53 AM

I guess when the roof is closed, not only does it keep the rain out but they have aircon in there. Does that reduce the humidity?

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 6:07 AM

Yeh, with thousands of people in there the humidity would go sky high.
It takes just 10 minutes for the roof to close.
But it then takes 30 minutes for the whole air management system to kick in.
In this weather, it's probably far more comfortable in there when the roof's closed!
And there are therefore lights of course.
Weird feeling last night watching a match through to 10.30 p.m.!
A great innovation.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 6:10 AM

Brit weather Clevercloggs!
We're about the same distance away as you (Surrey/Hants/Berks border) yet we had totally clear blue skies and hot hot sun (and max xxxxxxxxx humidity) throughout. Never even saw a cloud.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 7:42 AM

Clevercloggs, what's a suntrap?

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 9:20 AM

Suntrap: Catch a Scottish, Welsh or similarly pasty-skinned individual and stake them out in the garden. Their arctic hue automatically attracts the sun from it's hiding place and proceeds to burn them to little crispy Celts. (The process takes around 3-4 minutes.)
If watched using time lapse photography, it resembles melting ice cream.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 9:36 AM

Wrong.
The Welsh just dissolve into their original puddle of rain, then evaporate.
The Scots disappear completely 'cos they've left even their wallets at home.
It's the English who spend fortunes to get skin cancer.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 9:39 AM

ohhhh.

pierre
Pierre  (Level: 192.5 - Posts: 24)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 1:15 PM

Interesting. In Victorian times in England it was fashionable to be pasty-white, largely because the rich could stay indoors, only the poor worked in the fields and got browned by the sun. When most people started working indoors it became fashionable to be brown, because it said you were well-off and could afford to go to warm places where the sun shone. Maybe now with all the skin cancer scares it will become fashionable to be white again.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 7:56 PM

Can anyone stop the Williams' sisters? I really miss the Belgian gals, but Serena and Venus have definite staying power!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 5:26 AM

Sandracam
Clevercloggs, what's a suntrap?
It's an area of a garden, park etc that tends to attract and absorb the heat of the sun. I have a small paved area between my back door and the lawn which is frequently up to 10F warmer than the ambient temperature. It's the only place in my garden where i can lie on a lounger "au naturel", without scaring the neighbours. I bet you're glad you asked !!!!!!!!!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 5:38 AM

Well that proves something ... Wisley, just by us, was the top UK temperature yesterday. And it's already feeling even hotter this morning. Plus that xxxxxx humidity, which kills everything. Few in UK have air conditioning of course.

It's Murray Day again today. I'm still waiting for him to lose ...........!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 5:46 AM

Probably have to wait till Sunday, Alan, and he usually beats Federer.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 10:37 AM

Not in Grand Slams he doesn't, but he just might this time.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 12:09 PM

What a match Murray played !!!! 7-5 6-3 6-2. It looks like Roddick in the semi, but Hewitt never gives up. Whatever, i fancy a Federer / Murray final on Sunday.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 12:36 PM

Found the match a bit mundane this time round actually ..........

I think you're right though. And I'd still go for a Fed win unfortunately.

But am fully happy to become "Ecstatic of Surrey"!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 1st Jul '09 2:51 PM

The Roddick / Hewitt game is still going on, and they are deep into a gruelling 5th set....luvly jubbly !!!!! I think Andy would prefer Hewitt to win, but i doubt he'd admit it.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 4:46 AM

Yep, another excellent match.
Even hotter today apparently, maybe 94F.
But rain should clear the humidity tomorrow - maybe Murray will be under cover.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 5:33 AM

PS: Which he didn't like last time round!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 5:43 AM

Alan, it's just Andy Roddick. Murray is favored at 3 out of 4.

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.5 - Posts: 911)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 9:36 AM

I like Murray's chances against Roddick. I was thinking of putting a bet on Murray but that would probably be disastrous for Murray and my money Lol. Looks like the roof may be required this weekend.
Dementieva took the first set against Williamsova,S.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 1:53 PM

Yup, but Serena battled back to win what must have been a great match.

Venus against Serena on Saturday. Serena usually wins, but Venus seems to be in a good rut these days.

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Thu, 2nd Jul '09 2:05 PM

At Wimbledon Venus usually wins: sixth title if she does, to Serena's possible fourth.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 6:48 AM

Murray Day again!
Far cooler, and cloud rather than rain apparently.
Again, I hope for a Murray win, but he's still too questionable for me.
Expect him in, and to lose, the final.
The English & Scots have had a go. Now it's up to we Welsh to breed a player!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 7:14 AM

You're such a pessimist.

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 9:28 AM

Hurrah! Scottish weather!
Bound to win now!


collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 1:45 PM

The wrong Andy won.

Federer-Roddick Sunday.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 1:52 PM

BUGGER

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 7:10 AM

But, then, I'm just a pessimist ................

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 7:23 AM

The Yank played well, no getting away from it. People are saying Murray played well too, i disagree, his first serve was atrocious. He got it in about as often as a eunuch at a hen party.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 7:29 AM

Nope, not an exciting Murray performance at all.
I still reckon Fed will go right through Roddick.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 8:21 AM

Andy's been a bit of a disappointment, be a nice surprise to see another upset.

Then again, Federer can break a Sampras record.

Ladies match is sure to be a good one.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 6:45 AM

Alan, a guest of Bolton's this AM observed that Murray, now that he lost, was no longer England's best hope, but just a [miserable] Scot. In other words now he's just like Tim.

Too funny

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 9:55 AM

Well, Britain's best .........

Er - Rod currently 1-0 up. Whoops!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 10:43 AM

Now 1-1 - just!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 11:28 AM

Now 2-1 to Fed. More like. But he's lucky - not over-impressive as yet & Rod is playing his heart out.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 11:30 AM

Roddick at his best can occasionally come out on top. Usually he racks up another frustrating loss.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 11:42 AM

Don't go out on a limb or anything, Andy.

I'm proud of the boy for hanging in.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 11:52 AM

I can't even watch it here, Donna - without paying.

Roodick seems to have the better of it today. If Federer doesn't reach back and find that little something he always uses to knock off Andy, I'll pay Roddick more respect hereafter.



surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 11:56 AM

Oh my Gawd - 2-2 now. What a match, eh? Rod deserves this one for effort.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 12:52 PM

Into double digits in the 5th! WOW!

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 1:12 PM

Longest championship match in Wimbledon history...can't take my eyes off it.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 1:35 PM

Guess I don't have to eat any crow about Andy Roddick today, but if he keeps playing like that I may have to.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 1:41 PM

Oh WOW! Sorry USA!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 5th Jul '09 3:22 PM

A great and humble winner, The other guy came second with good grace, he certainly isn't a loser. A demonstration of why these are the greatest tennis championships on the planet. Usual superb coverage by the BBC. 10/10 all round.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 6:07 AM

And the day after the Finals the rain poured! ...........
Must be the best weather for Wimbledon in a long time.

slicko
Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 6:17 AM

It was a great match until the last game - how could Roddick play brilliantly for 4 1/2 hours and then fall apart in one game? Still he has raised the level of his game and maybe finally is starting to realize his full potential. Both guys were the model of class throughout the tournament - so rare in sports these days.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 6:49 AM

Slicko
It was a great match until the last game - how could Roddick play brilliantly for 4 1/2 hours and then fall apart in one game?

The clue might be in the 4 1/2 hours.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 7:27 AM

It was one for the ages and they were both terrific. Andy can hold his head high, he took the best player the game has ever seen farther than anyone's ever been before at Wimbledon, and he was never broken till the very end. If his game had a weakness, it was when he was briefly overwhelmed by the moment in the second set tiebreak at 5-1.

How about honorable mention for "Most Improved" at least? He displayed more guts speaking to the media so graciously with those ravaged eyes than he did in the game.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 9:17 AM

If it had been a judging affair, I'd have given it to Rod on points.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 9:46 AM

He might have had problems picking Federer's serve, but he sure knows how to pick a wife..........

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 1:24 PM

Dave, in a match like that one saves his energy for holding serve and occasional break opportunities.

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.5 - Posts: 911)
Mon, 6th Jul '09 4:14 PM

I thought Federer would take it in straight sets. A lot of credit goes to Roddick. He played stunning tennis but Federer was his awesome, effortless, best.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Tue, 7th Jul '09 1:05 AM

Collioure
Dave, in a match like that one saves his energy for holding serve and occasional break opportunities.

My mistake; i had no idea that either, let alone both players, were psychic. It does explain why Federer looked a little under par in the first set, he was saving it all for the long final set.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 7th Jul '09 4:33 AM

I don't think it was the breaks that mattered in this game?
Outside of the final game & tie-breaks, Rod broke twice and Fed didn't, I believe?
It was the tie-breaks that did it. As bad as penalty shoot-outs in soccer!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Tue, 7th Jul '09 4:47 AM

No, and necessary to maintain interest especially in televised matches

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.9 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 7th Jul '09 6:01 AM

I guess I prefer tennis tie-breakers to the penalty kicks just because they're not a "skills competition" -- you're actually still playing the game, even if the serving and scoring rules are somewhat changed.

For that matter futbol penalties don't bother me that much, given the choice of alternative ways to resolve a game when a winner is needed (keep playing, complete replay, play with fewer people on the pitch, ...)

I like baseball and basketball's tiebreaking systems, but of course there it is less difficulty in breaking the tie. US college football's is the worst. Might as well be penalty kicks. I'd say there, just keep the tie, and I wish those idiot voters in the polls would vote accordingly anyway.

And of course for a fan, playoff hockey's system is the best.


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