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Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 11:07 PM


I heard this speech on energy today on cable news and couldn't believe my ears. I waited all day for the video and/or transcription to be online to doublecheck to make sure President Obama actually said what I thought he did. Yes, he did. And I didn't hear one news agency, commentator, ANYBODY comment on it.

I got this directly from the White House site:
Paragraph 8 is shown just to preface the part I couldn't believe in paragraph 9. The part that boggles my mind I have put in Caps only for emphasis since I don't know how to make it a different color or underline:


Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release June 29, 2009


Grand Foyer

"So we've gotten a lot done on the energy front over the last six months. But even as we're changing the ways we're producing energy, we're also changing the ways we use energy. In fact, one of the fastest, easiest, and cheapest ways to make our economy stronger and cleaner is to make our economy more energy efficient. And that's something that Secretary Chu is working every single day to work through.

We know the benefits. In the late 1970s, the state of California enacted tougher energy-efficiency policies. Over the next three decades, those policies helped create almost 1.5 million jobs. And today, Californians consume 40 percent less energy per person than the national average -- which, over time, has prevented the need to build at least 24 new power plants. THINK ABOUT THAT. CALIFORNIA - PRODUCING JOBS, THEIR ECONOMY KEEPING PACE WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, and yet they have been able to maintain their energy usage at a much lower level than the rest of the country."

I'm sorry, but where is the media when the president of the U.S. makes a statement like that? And TODAY IS THE VERY DAY that California started passing out IOUs. California is essentially BANKRUPT.

By Matthew Garrahan in Los Angeles

Last updated: June 29 2009 19:26

California is preparing to issue IOUs to its creditors this week as it grapples with an unprecedented cash crunch and prepares to begin its new fiscal year deep in the red.

Once the US’s richest state, California now has the dubious distinction of having the worst credit rating in the country.

Koota  (Level: 189.1 - Posts: 2120)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 11:12 PM

There must be a political website somewhere that would just love this post.

Kaufman  (Level: 269.9 - Posts: 3941)
Mon, 29th Jun '09 11:19 PM

Isn't that a bit of a non-sequitur saying that if California's overall productivity is good, its cash flow must be, and vice versa? Correlation, sure, but there are a lot of factors that go into each of them.

Collioure  (Level: 115.2 - Posts: 9952)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 7:24 AM

This is bunk. This dab of green energy won't fill the gap and it's very expensive to produce.

We need to develop ALL our energy sources - green, nuclear, oil and gas . . .

Oil is going to be expensive again very soon and nothing has been done to change that.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 8:16 AM there is a whole new "wrinkle".Not to worry though, Gore is a billionaire.

Allena  (Level: 268.6 - Posts: 1416)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 12:15 PM

Energy consumption includes climate and driving distances. The Californians have the highest gasoline prices in the USA. Adam Smith is still right. Look at D.C. Why didn’t Obama use them as the example?
Billions of BTU’s per captia

# 46 California: 2.174 per 10 people
# 47 New York: 2.147 per 10 people
# 48 Rhode Island: 2.112 per 10 people
# 49 District of Columbia: 0.306 per 10 people
# 50 Nevada: 0.261 per 10 people
# 51 Connecticut: 0.243 per 10 people
Weighted average: 3.5 per 10 people

The house bill contains a provision that the United States building codes will we changed to those in California. In other words, earthquake proof buildings for Kansas

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 12:52 PM

Wish even if not one press person seems to get up the nerve to call him on the outright lie about California, they would at least ash him for his definition of "untenable" He said today he wanted to assure the American people that his energy policies would not impose an "untenable burden" on them

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Tue, 30th Jun '09 1:00 PM

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 11:59 AM

Finally. The financial talk shows are debating this comment from the president.

At least it is finally getting the attention it deserves.

So far on either side of the aisle, no one is thinking this was a wise or true comment.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:06 PM

Also been hearing guess still in the rumor stage that people who are trying to sell their homes will have to bring it up to certain 'Green Codes' if true that should do wonders for the housing market

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:22 PM

I heard that too Linda. I believe it's a bill before the Senate now.

those of us living in older homes would be better off if lightning struck our homes or tornado took it so we could at least get the insurance out of it. There is absolutely no way, without spending more than my house is worth, that I could bring my home up to the code they are talking about.

Sure I would like my house to be well insulated and have all energy efficient windows. I'm just hoping I can come up with the money yet this year to have 2 basement windows replaced as the wood around them is rotting, let alone replacing all my windows.

Unfortunately that part of the bill will hurt the poorer people, not the rich. I hope someone realizes that.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:29 PM

That's just ridiculous, would never pass. Scare tactics IMO.

Caramel1  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 21613)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:47 PM

Scare tactics that thed sky would surely fall if some action was not taken immediately with no thought at the end of the last administration and has worked extremely well in record time in this one. Seems like the sky pretty much fell anyway unless yiou get into the "unprovable' numbers like jobs saved. The press needs to aggressively do its job and hold people accountable Never thought these words would come out of my mouth but. "Thank the Lord for Helen Thomas"

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