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sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 8:36 PM

DIPROVAN

Ok, here I am on the MJ bandwagon. The ONLY time I've known this drug to be used on a patient, is to sedate them while they're on a ventilator. Must be monitored closely, like continuous oxygen, respiratory rate, blood pressure readings. Just weird.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 8:44 PM

I thought it was scary stuff also. Quite sad that he felt he needed this drastic drug, if that's what is found. I've heard it said on some broadcast or another (so many) that it's possible to bring the doctor up on manslaughter charges because this should not be used outside of a hospital or place where vitals can be monitored.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 9:06 PM

In my experience, it is only used, in intensive care units, to majorly sedate patients, and I have NEVER seen it used on a patient who wasn't on a ventilator, why??? Because it can stop the breathing......

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.3 - Posts: 5487)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:15 PM

According to several news reports they also found Vicadon and Oxycodone in his home...Demerol too I heard...what was he and his doctor thinking?
Vickie

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:24 PM

Perhaps he didn't get them from a doctor??? Many prescription drugs are a hot commodity on the street.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:42 PM

Not diprovan! Strictly used in hospitals. Only as an IV drip..

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.1 - Posts: 1025)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:54 PM

I used to use it for painful procedures in the ER, like reducing fractured bones or dislocated joints. It's very useful because it causes rapid deep anesthesia and it goes away within minutes, with minimal hangover symptoms. It can make people stop breathing, like most general anesthetics, and I was always ready to intubate if necessary, but never had to. I haven't been able to use it for several months now; most hospitals have pretty well banned it for use by non-anesthesiologists because there have been accidents and deaths related to its use. If someone gave it to MJ at home, they should go to jail.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:56 PM

well, what would you know?

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.1 - Posts: 1025)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 11:59 PM


Watch it, I can order enemas till clear on the next patient I admit to your unit, nurse!


sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:00 AM

touche

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.1 - Posts: 1025)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:03 AM

Wait a minute, I take it back. It's never a good idea to tick off a nurse. Too many ways they can get back at you.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:07 AM

Lucky for you, I have to call the attending to stop the senseless torture of the nurse. I mean the patient.


papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.1 - Posts: 1025)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:17 AM




lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 1:10 AM

Are any of these drugs he was getting available in Mexico?

erin0620
Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 4:03 AM

I don't know, but I hope I'm not rjensons next patient

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 4:09 AM

Seems that some of our editors forgot to take their Diprovan this week.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 5:37 AM

Not usualy my thing to defend editors but believe Justin original memo included " the poliical threads,etc. STOP here " think many of them read that as I and others did exactly what he said not what he carified later-glad for the "clarification " though

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 6:52 AM

OH? I thought this was a thread about Lodi getting a new ride. Never mind.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:05 AM

With all his wealth and influence he probably paid a doctor to illegally obtain the drug. I think criminal charges are definitely in order if that was determined as a cause of death. There is no excuse for the doctor to use that drug outside a hospital. There are many other medications for insomnia.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:08 AM

Lo Ldo you tin that is possible??

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:19 AM

I had a good friend who is an ER doc, and many years ago, when I worked with him, I noticed he go along with all the nurses really well. He told me this
"Nurses can hurt Doctors, more than Doctors can hurt Nurses, AND there are more of them!"


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