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Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 10:13 PM


JFK'S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible.

Rusk responded "does that include those who are buried here?

DeGaulle did not respond.


When in England , at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.

He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'


There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?'

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?'


A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, 'Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?'

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, 'Maybe it's because the Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'



Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.

"You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically.

Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.

"Then you should know enough to have your passport ready."

The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."

"Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France !"

The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to."

Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 10:33 PM

I am not certain what this directly has to do with July 4th, per se, but it is the thread that disappeared before.

I always pictured you more as a November 5th guy, anyway.

Happy Independence Day to all.

Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Fri, 3rd Jul '09 10:53 PM

I think it has to do with being proud to be an American. God bless the USA.

M48ortal  (Level: 251.3 - Posts: 3742)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:30 AM

In defense of our French friends (assuming we still have some), they were not always as this thread makes them appear. By the end of our American Revolution, there were at least 9 French regiments and one legion fighting alongside the colonial forces, and it was the French navy which bottled up Cornwallis and forced his surrender. What nation has ever given us a gift that is more closely associated with America than the Statue of Liberty. If the French had not helped us then, we would all now be speaking... English. Oh well, at least we dropped the extra u's. And our money system isn't in pounds.

On a side note, we've traveled in England. My son lost thirty pounds on that trip. Must have slipped out of his pocket on the tour bus.

Leaston  (Level: 42.6 - Posts: 839)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:42 AM

Happy 4th. of all

Ladyvol  (Level: 205.3 - Posts: 5487)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:53 AM

Thanks for posting this Smaug...Proud to be an American too...

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:55 AM

Here's to the red, white and blue! >clink<

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 9:59 AM

America had much to be proud of during WWII. Can't rest on your laurels forever though!

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 10:14 AM

The Fourth of July is a celebration of America. I am among those who observe it although more quietly now that I'm old-thanks, Smaug

Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 11:08 AM

Last night, I took my 6 yr old, grandson, Tony, to downtown Chicago Firework's for July4th celebrations. He was so excited and tickled pink; which made me so happy to have this opportunity to celebrate and explain our history to him. I thought of people who can't express any joy, sorrow, anticipation, disappointment or must dress a certain way; then I thought... "What a great time to be and American. To the Tea Party people, I hope you realize your freedom to protest is here in America.

I love the crack of the firecrackers, the sound of little children jumping up and down with joy as the sky turns red, white, and blue, from the fireworks on July 4th. I love the smell of Bar- B -Que permeating the air, visiting family members, and friends and them visiting us. I’m happy to be able to say on July 4th… It feels good to be an American. Since we all have done something in one way or another to keep these freedoms and liberties going Happy Birthday America!

Happy July 4, 2009 to everyone

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 11:23 AM

Yes, believe the "Tea Party People" are saying among other things they don't want to lose that right as well as the rest of them that they currently have. Happy Birthday America

Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:08 PM

Yes, Linda

Although I think they are some mis -guided sheep who didn't complain about the trillions being spent on the Weapons Of Mass Deceptions; that goes even more so to prove the beauty and deliciousness of America.

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:16 PM

Think many of the "Tea Party People" most likely did exactly that as they complain about their sons going to Afghanistan to fight a no-win war

Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:31 PM

And many of them want to spend more tax dollars to nuke Iran and N.Korea because they say, not think, our President is weak. Poor Sarah she too can be thought of as weak. I say apart from Afghanistan they are still the same blind sheep who follow half-truths, lies and non sequiturs. Pathitic

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 12:53 PM

Had tor ead through you post a couple of times, Beverly, to see if theree was any fact to which I could respond. Have decided there is not so will just skip it

Frannie  (Level: 96.2 - Posts: 68)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 2:36 PM

Dearest Smaug,

For many years I called my dear old uncle who served in WW2 whenever the USA celebrated the glory of the sacrifices of its military and the freedom they secured for us. Memorial day was especially meaningful to us. He spent several days lying on a beach/battlefield in the Pacific pretending to be dead before he was rescued by fellow Marines more than 60 years ago. I could never thank all of the young men who fought for our freedom but I could honor him on these special days. When I read your post I thought how much Uncle Homer would have chuckled when I read it to him. Can't call to read it to him though; he died a month ago, age 86. I'm posting to thank you for the goosebumps as I remember this courageous man and his fellow servicemen.

Love this country and those who made it free and safer than most for all of us. Franny

Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 3:02 PM

Only four hours of the rapture left here in Olde England, it seems to be passing me by. Honestly though, i really am terribly grateful that you are independent. I just wish somebody had told Tony Bliar, that is not a typo.

Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 3:07 PM

My dad faked his birth certicate to get in the Navy at 16, and landed in D-day a week before his 18th birthday.

He died in 2001, but he would have loved this post....

Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 3:10 PM


My dad faked his birth certicate to get in the Navy at 16, and landed in D-day a week before his 18th birthday.

He died in 2001, but he would have loved this post....

Don't worry mate, nobody thought you were referring to my post !!!!!!!!!

Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 4:52 PM

The thing that some people don't get about the tea parties is that they are not protests just against the Obama administration, despite what CNN might tell you. The thing is that we have seen obscene expenditures and violations of rights on the increase, not just since January, but over the last several years. There comes a time when a straw can break a camel's back. It's an idea our Founding Fathers were very familiar with. Perhaps you've read what they had to say on the subject:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 5:01 PM

You bring up a valid point ... very valid ... and one that is worthy of discussion.

Today, however, IS the day that we celebrate our country.

You might have waited until July 5 to post your message.

Just my humble opinion that I'm sure is about to get blasted by somebody.

Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 5:11 PM

Quoting from the Declaration of Independence is not to be done on Independence Day? If someone is insulted by what the founding document says, that is their problem, not mine.

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 5:12 PM

I did not have a single problem with your post Katy as you did not violate any Sploofus rules. Neither do I have a single problem with Judy's as she did not either. If you look back think you will see that it was Beverly who first mentioned the "Tea Party People' off topic I grant you. Believe Judy was just trying to say that what Beverely and CNN had assumed about them was not the case

Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 4th Jul '09 5:21 PM

Yes, Judy, you are correct what could have been more appropriate to the 4th than what you pointed out in your post.BRAVO

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