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Marynuala  (Level: 141.3 - Posts: 996)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:15 PM


Very moons ago (pardon the pun), there was the supposed landing on it, in July 1969. After a lot of conspiracy theories put forward, what are your views? (The one that I agree with, is the extreme radiation the astronauts would have to endure while passing through the Van-Halen belt. According to scientific sources, their space suits would not have protected them, and they would have been killed or returned to Earth mutated with three heads etc).

Papajensai  (Level: 203.4 - Posts: 1025)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:52 PM

I forget...was David Lee Roth in Van Halen at the time of the moon shots?

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:53 PM

I absolutely believe that Apollo flights 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 went to the moon, and astronauts Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Pete Conrad, Alan Bean, Alan Shepard, Edgar Mitchell, David Scott, James Irwin, John Young, Charles Duke, Eugene Cernan, and Harrison Schmitt walked on the moon.

I absolutely believe Apollo 13 successfully passed around the back (to us) of the moon and returned to earth safely, in spite of critical system failures.

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2763)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:54 PM

No way those space machine thangs could have circled the flat earth fast enough to toss them to the moon.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:57 PM

I was into space travel myself back in the mid sixties. Way before Armstrong. I still get a little flashback once in a while.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 5:58 PM

Well, that settles it then.

Next - spitball fights on the Aledo deck!

Pennwoman  (Level: 163.1 - Posts: 2475)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 7:29 PM

I personally believe it all true. I really want Star Trek to be true. I think Worf is hot.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 9:35 PM

Hunh. Had you pegged for the Spock type.

Spacecat  (Level: 165.0 - Posts: 676)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 10:06 PM

Had it only been one moon landing ,Apollo 11 perhaps a conspiracy would be a posiblity to consider but with each flight more and more people and astronauts (and their families) would be involved. The USSR would have known and done everything to discredit the achievements of the USA space program. The radiation theory is over used, there are some small pockets where the radiation is minimal. The van allen belt does not cover the globe equally. Twenty one men went to the moon (some twice) and tweleve walked on its surface and we will see it again in our lifetime.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 10:14 PM

You made the hair stand up on my arms, Space! I hope you're right, man.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 10:43 PM

I think the kind of cynicism we see today didn't exist then. I don't know when it began. Maybe after Kennedy was killed.

I don't think there's any way they could fake the enthusiasm exhibited then and ever since. Their stories have always been in synch.

Watching the special on Fox news tonight, the Apollo 11 astronauts still have such wonder and exuberance telling the story. Watching the old tapes is just as exciting as now as back then for me too, when I was 16. I don't think we should let a few conspiracy theorists destroy our right to celebrate such a major human accomplishment.

Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2291)
Fri, 17th Jul '09 10:44 PM

OK. I fess. I went and didn't tell a soul. It was the trip of a lifetime.

Except maybe for that night in San Francisco in 1971.

Oh never mind

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 18th Jul '09 12:24 PM

I watched Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? on Tru channel last night. It made some compelling points, which make me want to hear further explanation from NASA.

I found this. I'm not judging it one way or another. But I enjoyed reading it.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sat, 18th Jul '09 1:29 PM

BTW, I asked Penn and she said it was the "Lido" deck, not Aledo. I've never been on a cruise (never will because of inner ear/seasickness issues - well, and $$ issues). I had only heard the term on Love Boat. So I wanted to make that correction!

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Sun, 19th Jul '09 11:38 AM

So after watching a full morning of Cronkite tributes, the question occurs: did the hoaxers fool Walter too, or was he in on it that night while he talked the whole nation through the long hours of the descent and landing?

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sun, 19th Jul '09 11:42 AM

Great point, Donna. Same for all the astronauts who were helping explain the procedures for the TV audience.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Mon, 20th Jul '09 10:37 AM

This was in the paper this morning: "Now 79, Buzz Aldrin lives in the LA area but is often on the road with wife Lois [he is currently promoting his book "Magnificent Desolation", a memoir of his experience on the Moon]. He still looks remarkably fit. In 2002, he punched, right in the face, a much bigger and younger man who was hounding him and trying to get him to swear on a Bible, on camera, that he had walked on the moon. That's what he thinks of those who claim the landings were staged..."

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 20th Jul '09 10:52 AM

Buzz Aldrin celebrated Communion (the Lord's Supper) on the moon.

If he were not really there, I just cannot see him adding Communion to his agenda. For a Christian, that would be sacrilege where none was needed.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Mon, 20th Jul '09 10:56 AM

And he didn't even talk about it at the time, only came out long after.

Spacecat  (Level: 165.0 - Posts: 676)
Mon, 20th Jul '09 7:03 PM

In his early book co written with Wayne Warga in 1973 called "Return to Earth" Buzz mentioned the communion. He had intended to read a passage from the book of John. He was warned not to do it by Deke Slayton due to a lawsuit filed after the Christmas reading of a passage from the book of Genesis by the crew of Apollo 8.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 20th Jul '09 8:05 PM

Mythbusters Moon Landing show is on at 9pm EDT on Discover channel. I don't think it's new, but I've never seen it, so I'll be interested what they show.

Bobolicios  (Level: 119.6 - Posts: 1745)
Tue, 21st Jul '09 10:32 PM

I am a very cynical person, but pleaseeeeee! I was young and watched them land and if it was fake it would have come out. People basically can't keep their mouths shut especially if money is involved. Can you imagine a what a sensation it would have caused if it was a hoax and the media got hold of it? Come on I thought you were a more intelligent group. To even suggest it is preposterous.

Marynuala  (Level: 141.3 - Posts: 996)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 1:21 AM

Sorry Bobolicious, as I opened this topic, I hope it has not caused any offence to you or others who read my message. I therefore want to make it clear that I did not intend to initiate any adverse debate. So I hope then that we can draw a line under it all; celebrate the memory of the moon landing, and look forward to seeing equally history making NASA space projects in the future.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 1:31 AM

I think it's an interesting thread and I've enjoyed taking part.

Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 2:33 AM

Only last week, I was talking to Buzz about when we went to MARS together. We had Roast Beef, Roast Potatos, with various Veggies, followed by Blueberry Pie. Sorry, I spelt MA's wrong.

Bobolicios  (Level: 119.6 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 1:34 PM

It is an interesting thread I have heard the allusion to it before. I just don't happen to believe it but it is fascinating how some would concoct an equally crazy hypothesis to say that NASA never sent astronauts to the moon.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 2:15 PM

We were talking about the possibility of future space travel at the pub last night, Marynuala. The DJ was downloading music tracks from the internet and people had their laptops and cellphones, and the point was made that while the NASA budgets have been gutted and running on shoestrings, every bit of the modern technology we take for granted came out of the race to the moon.

Think how they could do it with today's miniaturized technology - no dim grainy black and white. It would be like your TV was a window on the moon. How cool would that be?

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 2:37 PM

I watched so many shows they're all kind of blending together in my head, but I think it was Buzz Aldrin who said his iphone had more computer power than what they had onboard the lander.

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2498)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 3:22 PM

Since everything seems to be running well on this planet, it seems only natural to spend tax dollars on space exploration. Go Figure.

Bigbird  (Level: 250.3 - Posts: 3349)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 4:51 PM

Besides the amazing computer technology that has come out of research to aid the space program, just a few of the spinoffs from our space program include:

Corningware type kitchenware
Scratch resistant eyeglass lenses
improved sports shoes, golf balls, swim suits, football helmets
all types of environmental monitors
improved solar power abilities
stereotactic needle biopsies
automated blood and urine analyzers, now used in every lab
Doppler radar
radial tires
smoke detectors
ear thermometers
programmable pacemakers
invisible braces for your teeth
GPS navigation systems
MRI scanners
Patch medicine delivery systems
Bar coding
Satellite TV

The list is just about endless.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 4:53 PM

So THAT'S how they keep finding me!

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12008)
Wed, 22nd Jul '09 4:55 PM

And you told me I didn't NEED my tinfoil helmet!


Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Thu, 23rd Jul '09 1:40 PM

The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien (from 7-21)

‚óŹ Yesterday, to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the moon landing, the three astronauts from Apollo 11 visited the White House. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were allowed to set foot inside the White House, while Michael Collins was forced to drive around in circles outside.

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Fri, 24th Jul '09 7:37 AM

Good one Jank!

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