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oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 3:09 PM

ARE YOU TAKING CHOLESTEROL LOWERING DRUGS (STATINS)?

Interesting article on a recent Canadian study

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/08/21/HeartDrugHarms/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=210809

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 3:45 PM

That's depressing news, as I look at my zocor bottle. Thanks, I think.

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.4 - Posts: 7561)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 3:52 PM

I've been taking Simvastatin [plus niacin supplements to raise my HDL level] for quite awhile.
My blood lipid panels [every 6 months] appear to be normal, but I make sure my doctor keeps me apprised of any changes.


leaston
Leaston  (Level: 42.6 - Posts: 839)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 4:40 PM

I've been using zocor since 1998!

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 4:58 PM

Great to see you post, Al!

It's Lipitor for me, heart disease runs in the family and high cholesterol as well. I'm asking about it.


achad
Achad  (Level: 204.2 - Posts: 661)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 5:39 PM

Pravastatin and Bezafibrate doing the job for me

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 5:54 PM

I probably should be taking something, but ignorance is sometimes bliss. I have not had a blood work up recently to know what my cholestrol or triglycerides (spelling) is. I know I do have borderline hypertension. I wonder if it is the cure is worse than the disease.

m48ortal
M48ortal  (Level: 251.3 - Posts: 3742)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 6:28 PM

Thanks for posting this. Since using Crestor, I've had severe leg cramps several times, (the kind that make you sit up in bed and cry), and my legs are weak, even though I work out and walk.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 6:31 PM

Sorry Alice, didn't mean to upset you

Thought it was of interest, as so many are on these drugs. I believe we should all check out any prescriptions we get & find out more about side effects & possible interactions with other drugs. Our doctors are far too busy treating patients to keep up with all the studies & new medical information they are inundated with on a daily basis. That isn't a criticism of doctors, but until we can magically give doctors at least an additional 24 hours a day, it's up to each of us to help ourselves & keep informed.
Sorry that sounds so preachy

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 6:36 PM

Thanks Randy. I've just been put on a statin of some kind, and will get more medication next week since I'm now apparently diabetic. (That's what I get for going in for a physical). I inherited all that from my father, and the blood disorder from my mother, which causes me to have to take warfarin.

I would have preferred inheriting money.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 6:40 PM

I had a blood test done for diabetes last year, at least I don't have that. However, my mom had heart problems and I have borderline hypertension all inherited. I'm sure I should probably be on lipitor or crestor but if all the side effects are that bad, it scares me a little. I don't want all the aches and pains.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 6:58 PM

Sounds like we should start a thread with all the meds we take. A who can top this thing. I just started on coumadin after an episode last week of atrial fibrilation (read all about my fun in tonight's word puzzle). When I read the line in the stress test directions (coming next week) about bringing in all your meds, I felt like hiring a U Haul.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 7:57 PM

My mother was on Coumodin after she had her heart surgery. You really have to get that dosage right with that drug. Hope it goes well for you.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 8:07 PM

I'm finding that using the treadmill and/or Power Rider, plus adding more veggies to my diet and watching the bread and potatoes, is bringing down the cholesterol and triglycerides and keeping my A1C low enough I am so far staying off diabetic medication. I have what my doctor refers to as an "allergic system" and so I have to be very careful what medications I take because of side effects.

If I can handle a condition by taking vitamins and other supplements (and yes, I know some of them are about the same as RX meds), I'll take that route rather than prescription drugs. I take a few prescriptions but probably not much considering my age. One good thing I must have inherited from my father was good blood pressure - since I quit work a year ago, it's about 117/70 every time they take it.

My other problem with meds is that I'm not very good at taking them regularly. I try to get them in at least once a day, but I very often forget the second dose in a day. I get to involved with Sploofus, yeah, that's it. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 9:58 PM

Thanks
I know now why I occasionally feel weak and dizzy. I use liptor. I attributed it to my diabetes. I try the execerise and diet thing but will fall off the wagon more than often. I will try harder though.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 10:59 PM

At the end of the day, once you start taking these "big guns" so to speak, it really is up to us to pay loads of attention to ourselves. It's the best favor you can pay yourself and it sure helps the doctor when he's trying to make sure he's giving you the best care.

I don't mean to sound preachy either, apologies if it comes across that way. I try my best to practice what I preach, who knows what I'm feeling better than me?

Wow, life sure changes when you hit a "certain age" doesn't it? For me it was 45, I passed it long ago.
Maureen

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 11:26 PM

Boy, isn't that the truth? I thought I was invincible. Turns out I'm vincible.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 11:45 PM

It's only been this week that I've started feeling old. Gotta whip myself back into mental shape.

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 78.9 - Posts: 435)
Sat, 22nd Aug '09 11:52 PM

Statins are still shown to be effective against Alzheimer's though, right? I think I just read that.

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 12:32 AM

If you are intolerant of statin drugs of any kind, ask your physician about vitamin B-3 (niacin) therapy. It's cheap and effective and since it is a water soluble vitamin, it will not accumulate in your tissues and cause damage like a fat soluble vitamin might.

It is my understanding that vitamin therapy was used for years to lower LDL (bad) cholesterol (and raise good HDL cholesterol) before statins were invented ... although if someone from the medical community wants improve upon this post, I don't mind at all.

Check out the following website.

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v01n10.shtml

Be aware that large doses of Vitamin B-3 will cause "flushing" .... sorta like getting a hot flash ... so DO check this out thoroughly and even ask your doctor before you try it.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 1:02 AM

I think my doctor told me I wasn't a good candidate for niacin because it alters blood sugar levels and can have poor reactions with my blood thinner. But I was getting a lot of information at once, and frankly, he lost me at hello.

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 78.9 - Posts: 435)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 1:57 AM

And you can't take Viagra if you also take niacin. (just fyi

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 78.9 - Posts: 435)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 1:59 AM

But my understanding is niacin is tremendously effective.

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 6:43 AM

thats very worrying my daughter on statins because of a blood clot in her lung im very glad i dont have take anything yet x

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 7:22 AM

I'm a Lipitor kinda guy myself. Stiff joints is slightly better than being ..........well, a "stiff".

cjar855
Cjar855  (Level: 133.4 - Posts: 838)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 10:22 AM

Lovastatin for me. And I do feel achy and stiff getting up. Kept saying it was all to getting old.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 10:37 AM

My thought is this.

The death rate is still 100%, no matter what you eat, what you do, what meds you take.

My mom died with Alzheimers. My dad died of prostate cancer. Both were in their 80s. Both worked hard and ate healthily out of their huge garden every year of their lives. They took vitamins. They did not smoke, they did not drink alcohol at all. They walked miles all their lives. My dad took care of my mom, as did the neighbors. She had a route she walked of 2 miles every day around the neighborhood, and the neighbors watched out for her always - they walked with her, made sure she didn't lose her way and always got home safely when my dad's knees gave out on him to walk with her every day.

My point is, no one could have lived more actively and healthily than they, but they still died of diseases that may/are genetic.

Give me a good old heart attack any day of the week, rather than what I saw them suffer through toward the end.

Pass the gravy and cheesecake, please. And do not resuscitate.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.7 - Posts: 2144)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 10:49 AM

My parents were always unhealthy. My mother had open heart surgery twice, and died in her early 50's from another massive heart attack, as did her parents and all her siblings. My dad was diabetic and was always struggling with those complications. Out of 7 of us kids, 6 of us have inherited my mother's Factor V Leiden (a blood clotting disorder), 4 have had heart surgeries, 4 have diabetes. One of my sisters had a stroke as she turned 50, and is now confined to a wheel chair. My family genetics SUCK.

I was 16 when my mother died, the summer before my senior year of high school. My son just turned 14. As he approaches the age I was when my mom died, all of these medical problems now have my full attention. It was never real to me trying to put myself in my parents' shoes because they were always "old" to me. But thinking of my children losing their mom to something that was treatable and could have been prevented absolutely turns me inside out.

I'm going to take what they tell me to take, and eat what they tell me to eat. If not for me, for them.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 23rd Aug '09 11:13 AM

Bless your heart, Lodi. And yet with all that history, you're amazingly upbeat and witty.

I certainly agree with your plan, having younger children.


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