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salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 158.1 - Posts: 5352)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 1:38 AM

SEN. KENNEDY HAS DIED

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

Sen. Ted Kennedy Has Died of Brain Cancer At Age 77 [1:15 AM ET]


Just received this. Agree with his politics or not, he made his mark in U.S. politics.

osuzannacollage
Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 1:45 AM


Sincere best wishes to his family! Yes, he and all of the Kennedys have made a huge impact on our country.

Hopefully, this thread will remain one of respect and not spiral into political diatribes.

God bless!

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 222.0 - Posts: 1935)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 2:09 AM

Very sad time for the Kennedy family, the USA & the World

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 2:46 AM

When the lion roars, the earth trembles too. Senator Ted Kennedy, the "liberal lion of the Senate" will be missed as he has made his roar in the paths of humanity and politics. Many people will feel the roar of his courage My condolences go out to the Kennedy family at this time of their grief. Rest in peace Senator your spirit will live forever.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 106.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 3:49 AM

A very fine Senator passes. He will be missed.


alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 232.8 - Posts: 7602)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 4:50 AM

His compassion and advocacy for "liberal" causes to help underprivileged people will be missed.
I remember meeting him while supporting his presidential campaign for the Democratic Party nomination in 1980 during a stop in York.
Above all others, he was the most effective in building bi-partisan efforts to find compromise in the United States Senate.
May he rest in peace.

gypsylady
Gypsylady  (Level: 143.5 - Posts: 6064)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 6:14 AM

May God bless Senator Kennedy and his family...

Marilyn...

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:10 AM

It is sad to think that he is the only one of the Kennedy brothers to live a long life and die of natural causes. He will be greatly missed by millions.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:18 AM

Will always think of him as "Jack's" younger brother. End of an era.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:26 AM

Very sad time for the Kennedy family, also with Eunice Shriver's death being so recent, as well. My condolences to his family and friends.

spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 160.4 - Posts: 668)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:46 AM

Mary Jo is waiting.

spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 160.4 - Posts: 668)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:52 AM

Actually it is a sad day. For all his faults he did champion many worth while causes. Like was said before it is the end of an era. Only one child left of the original family.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:52 AM

Nice. Bet you're a big hit at funerals everywhere.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:00 AM

He believed in many of the things i believe in, i can't say that about many US politicians. He lived a long life, i wish him a fond farewell.

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 207.5 - Posts: 5535)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:14 AM

My thoughts and prayers are with his family...Although I didn't agree totally with all his politics he did make history and will be sorely missed.
Vickie

lynnm
Lynnm  (Level: 228.9 - Posts: 1969)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:53 AM

As many have said, this marks the end of an era.
Many Americans will feel the Senator's passing deeply, regardless of politics. I will also remember his eloquence at the funeral service of his brother Bobby. Still brings me to tears thinking about it.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 100.5 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 12:00 PM

The Kennedys have sure endured a lot of tragedy. I was sad over John, Jr.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 158.1 - Posts: 5352)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 12:30 PM

I watched a wonderful tribute to Sen. Kennedy given by Vice President Joe Biden. It was very moving and gave us a glimpse into the statesman and compassionate man Sen. Kennedy had become.

If we would all live our lives to make such a difference that similar kind words could be said upon our deaths.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 199.7 - Posts: 1302)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 1:10 PM

I feel for the Kennedys. They have endured so much tragedy. May he rest in peace.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 136.9 - Posts: 3789)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 3:08 PM

It is the end of an era in U.S. politics. Love him or hate him, he was instrumental in shaping political debate on many issues. His ability to work across the aisle helped pass many landmark bills, such as the ADA and medicare, for example. He will be missed. Let us hope his spirit lingers on. Our prayers go out to him and his family.

buchanan
Buchanan  (Level: 81.3 - Posts: 339)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:35 PM

God bkess the kennedy family,they have had multiple challenges in their life between being killed,cancer,death etc.He has made his day with God and a lot of people,I've heard many comments on tv from people and not a one of them were negative.He's @ peace now and with his Savior. buchanan

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 119.6 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 12:08 AM

His stood by his ideals and championed causes for the less fortunate. I was a supporter, he will be missed in the Senate. His ideals will live on. May he rest in peace and condolences to the Kennedy family. He was ill for quite some time.

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 79.0 - Posts: 435)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 2:05 AM

I can remember the joy and hope the Kennedy's generated in the 1960's. Although I'm sad, and also a little scared about what happens when someone that passionate and experienced, able to bring divided people together, is gone??....I think we can celebrate, too. He grew and learned and changed, he admitted his mistakes and became a powerful voice for the good of the vulnerable and the average citizen. And...lord he's an example for us of how one can survive tragedy, endure loss, suffer mistakes and still keep going--go on and DO service for others.

He helped press through the Civil Rights Bill; and he actually lived to help bring the first African-American to the US presidency! He must have felt great about that.

They said because he was ill a while, people had time to write, call, and send him things, so he knew how deeply he was admired and loved. Being religious, he also completely believed he would be united with the rest of his family he lost so tragically. (True or not, since we're doing such a fantastic job of staying out of conflict, here) he was comforted by that, he said. I'm comforted by all your words, here. And by the fact this thread is so respectful and kind. A champion of the People is gone. Maybe we all agree on that. Thanks for this thread.

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 84.8 - Posts: 894)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 2:42 AM

Ted, fresh ouf law school, actively campaigned for JFK in 1960, and he spoke at an assembly at my college that year. Even then he was refreshingly eloquent and passionate about the future of our country.

Say what you will about Ted, he served our country all his life, as did JFK and RFK. Regardless of politics, he was respected by his peers, few of whom will ever measure up to his stature.

Some will try to demonize or marginalize him -- it says more about them than it does about him.

RIP, brothers

http://www.acephotos.org/c13724799/ted-kennedy-photo.html

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 79.0 - Posts: 435)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 3:32 AM

Yes...pretty exciting you got to hear him speak back in the day.

I feel inspired because in the programs about his life and service, Ted says over and over that he felt "responsible" to serve his country and the people in it. Isn't that something. He said his father felt strongly about service as a lifestyle and taught it to all the children. I'm reminded that our volunteer rate has gone down and down, of late. (Though it was primarily volunteers who dragged New Orleans up out of the mud.) Day to day, people surveyed say they don't want to volunteer.

Watching the programs about Ted's life is inspiring, that way.

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 84.8 - Posts: 894)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 2:38 AM

I think there are several reasons why people don't volunteer for organizations, number one is that it isn't enjoyable for them. When you're working for a living, you put up with certain things, because you have to. Volunteer-supported groups can be difficult, and when people feel their energies could be put to better use elsewhere, they move on.

Volunteer work can be thankless, it's amazing how the people you serve become more demanding and critical and unappreciative of all you do. I was the editor of a community newsletter for several years, and I constantly upgraded it and improved the content. One woman's self-assigned job was to grab it on the day it came out and go through it with a fine-toothed comb, looking for mistakes, and of course she found something. She ran off the 3 editors before me, but she had 'political clout' and nobody would take her on. I quit. Period. And it was a load off my back.

I volunteered with a theatre group, doing PR and computing support and whatever else needed to be done. The director would create crises and then call me at the 11th hour to fix some problem, as though I had no life. He thrived on chaos, I hated it.

Volunteers usually drift away rather than make waves, and the problems (usually people) never get resolved.

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 79.0 - Posts: 435)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 3:31 AM

Rotten experiences all around? That's unfortunate your talents and hard work were not appreciated.
For people who gleefully comb for errors in published works...they are everywhere. There's some kind of ego boost in it for them, it seems. Too bad no one stepped in and put the nix on her.

In the 60's and 70's and also today in certain locations--a particular town or larger area--volunteers are plentiful. If women didn't volunteer the planet would have fallen to ruin eons ago. It's a more recent thing, that baby boomers, in particular, don't want to volunteer. Maybe there's too much cynical criticism around those places, so, like everywhere else where there's more criticism and bickering than comradeship and reward, it's not fun.

I've done lots of volunteering and I had a blast, and met the most incredible range of delightful people. True, it was stressful. Trying to coordinate every kind of person who is there for every kind of reason, and doesn't have to be there, is hard. People who do volunteer tend to be, I think, capable, outgoing, and confident. But not necessarily good at working with a team. For me, though, my volunteer experiences remain enduring and fun memories, where what I did every day had meaning and purpose. So...it's a sad thing if tons of people have experiences more like yours.

godwit
Godwit  (Level: 79.0 - Posts: 435)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 3:31 AM

Rotton experiences all around? That's unfortunate your talents and hard work were not appreciated.
For people who gleefully comb for errors in published works...they are everywhere. There's some kind of ego boost in it for them, it seems. Too bad no one stepped in and put the nix on her.

In the 60's and 70's and also today in certain locations--a particular town or larger area--volunteers are plentiful. If women didn't volunteer the planet would have fallen to ruin eons ago. It's a more recent thing, that baby boomers, in particular, don't want to volunteer. Maybe there's too much cynical criticism around those places, so, like everywhere else where there's more criticism and bickering than comradeship and reward, it's not fun.

I've done lots of volunteering and I had a blast, and met the most incredible range of delightful people. True, it was stressful. Trying to coordinate every kind of person who is there for every kind of reason, and doesn't have to be there, is hard. People who do volunteer tend to be, I think, capable, outgoing, and confident. But not necessarily good at working with a team. For me, though, my volunteer experiences remain enduring and fun memories, where what I did every day had meaning and purpose. So...it's a sad thing if tons of people have experiences more like yours.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 260.3 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 5:53 AM

Godwit wrote, "In the 60's and 70's and also today in certain locations--a particular town or larger area--volunteers are plentiful. If women didn't volunteer the planet would have fallen to ruin eons ago. It's a more recent thing, ..."

But one of the differences between that time and now is that then a lot more women were stay-at-home moms and the like, while now, both adults in the household are often in the workforce full-time. Less time, energy, and emotional need for volunteering when you're also toting that load. So I'm not sure it's directly a generational attitude, but rather the fact that a lot of available leisure time and unfilled needs for interaction that used to be present are no longer there.

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 84.8 - Posts: 894)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 12:11 PM

Of course there are many people who serve others one to one without being part of an organization, and quite honestly, I think it's more effective -- you see the results of what you do, you make great personal contact, and there is a blossoming in your relationship. Depends on the situation of course.

I work best solo -- give me a project with a beginning and an end, and you'll get my very best when you need it.


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