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Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:22 AM


Sigh.....So the kids came back to school this week. The first week is always my favorite but usually filled with redundant paperwork on student info, etc.

But this week has been particularly challenging to me. If you check my FB page, you know that my toy Yorkie, Winston disappeared Monday morning. I've had him 3 years, and he has been the most loyal dog. He stays right with me as constantly as I will allow. (He'd go to school with me and play an instrument if he could!)

There are only about 5 days of the school year that I absolutely couldn't take a day off - and the first day is one of them. After a quick drive of the immediate neighborhood trying to find him, I had no choice to but go on to school (which is 70 miles away).

He would be right here if he could. It's rural here and I fear an animal got him. (Many wild animals can climb fences.) I'm still looking, I've called all authorities, etc.

The other challenge I have this week is that somehow I'm now affected with poison ivy on one arm and hand (maybe starting on the other hand).

I've never been around poison ivy in my life, and I'm sure this came from petting one of the cats.

So - any advice how to treat it or to keep it from spreading? I'm wearing long sleeves to keep it from getting on any equipment or anything that kids touch. I bought a spray on advice of the pharmacy.

But if you've been affected by this stuff, you know what it's like. How do you handle it? How long until it goes away/

Gypsylady  (Level: 148.4 - Posts: 6097)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:29 AM


This is a link for Home Remedies for poison ivy. Seems like I've heard about the one with bleach before!

Good luck in getting rid of it, and hope you're better soon and find your dog.


Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:35 AM

Janice, hope Winston comes home soon!

Caramel1  (Level: 135.1 - Posts: 21590)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:46 AM

So sad-wishing you and your little dog nothing but the best outcome-Linda

Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:57 AM

I have only ever lost dogs to old age, unless you count the second wife, i don't know what i'd do if one of mine had "just gone missing". I have a Staff now, if anyone tried to take him i'd just follow the trail of flesh and bones. What can anyone say to ease your plight ? Just that i hope he comes home safe and sound, and really soon. If that isn't the case, please don't fear the worse. Maybe some family with a couple of kids to dote on him have taken him in. It won't ease your pain, but at least his tail will still be wagging. You have a god, use him, it can't do any harm.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:06 AM

hahaha - I use God daily for everything, so He's heard about it! All my Christian friends are praying also.

I had a cat a few years ago that on Christmas morning my neighbor accidentally ran over. Her husband quickly buried the cat and I spent months not knowing what happened, but hoping she was happy in a loving home somewhere.

I finally found out and mourned her properly. I'm a realist. I've watched Meerkat Manor for years. It's part of the dangers of living in the country. But I still hope for the best.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:10 AM

Thanks Marilyn for the link.

I'm off to try the salt, bleach, and hot water right now!

Ladyvol  (Level: 212.4 - Posts: 5651)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:19 AM

I do hope and pray that your dog finds his way home to you...I know what it's like to lose a dog like that having lost two of my for the poison ivy calamine lotion is good to help stop the itching as is a paste made of cornstarch...Hope you get to feeling better soon

Pennwoman  (Level: 162.2 - Posts: 2476)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:25 AM

Ack! NOT THE BLEACH! It just kills me that it is considered a remedy for poison ivy! Poison ivy is a miserable form of contact dermatitis which means your skin is already damaged and fragile. Bleach is a chemical! Would you put bleach on a second degree burn? NO! Of course not!
Washing the area with mild soap and warm water is great idea. Then topical steroid cream, if you can get your doctor to write for a stronger percentage (over the counter is 0.5% is standard concentration) go for it, but stronger is expensive. Then Benadryl for the itching. Topical lotion like Benadryl or Calamine isnt a bad idea either if it gives you relief, just make sure you put the steriod cream on first.

Lodi  (Level: 106.0 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:26 AM

My mom used to lather us in Calamine lotion when we got into the poison oak.

Sorry about your dog. I would be frantic. Little dogs are also desired by adults so it may have been swiped. Get notices up everywhere. If you have a humane shelter, post notices there immediately - when I have a stray dog show up on our property, that's the first place I call and 95% of the time, there is a frantic owner who has done the same.

Also, in your ads, say that the dog is on medication for ringworm and a special diet for flaming gastritis, and that there is a reward. That might prompt a hasty return if she is stolen.

Sorry. I know how upset you must be and the itching & rash isn't helping. Let us know.

Collioure  (Level: 113.7 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:29 AM

Lodi = very smart lady

Pennwoman  (Level: 162.2 - Posts: 2476)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:36 AM

I was so distressed over the bleach thing, I forgot to say, I hope your dog finds its way home soon!

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 9:55 AM

As in many remedies they have various results on different people. Yesterday I decided to reclaim our backyard. I pulled down vines from our majestic trees all afternoon. Although I wore gloves I could feel the irritation on my bare arms and legs. Upon completion I dove in the pool and swam a bit. No problems this morning. I have experienced severe poison ivy or oak in the past. Trust me you never want to get it into an open cut. The bleach (or chlorine) has always worked for me. From the past my grandmother always said to wear white clothing and have white linens when suffering from Poison Oak, Ivy or Sumac.

Monkeynips13  (Level: 21.5 - Posts: 647)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 10:11 AM

So sorry to hear about Winston. I know I would be devestated if I lost any of my dogs. I hope he returns home safe and sound. Please keep us updated.

Lodi  (Level: 106.0 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 11:18 AM

Felix - send pictures.

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 12:43 PM

Janice - a friend of mine had a horrendous case of poison ivy last summer .. it was all over her face and arms. She was confined to the house for a couple weeks because of the way she looked.

A friend of hers, who is a nurse practitioner, told her to put on Desitin - that's the white stuff you put on a baby's behind when they have a bad diaper rash. It doesn't wash off readily, so the fact you are wearing long sleeves would cover it up.

I've never had poison ivy but I've heard enough to know that I don't want it either.

I hope you have a current photo of you dog that you can print out and post on bulletin boards wherever you find one - laundromats, grocery stores, animal shelters, etc. If you have the same neighbors as when your cat came up missing, you might want to ask them - nicely of course - if they have seen your dog.

Pet owners - if you don't have a current photo of your pets, please take one and keep it in a safe place in case you need it.

Oldcougar  (Level: 228.6 - Posts: 1935)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 12:55 PM

Sorry about little Winston, Janice. Sure hope he gets home soon.

I've never had poison ivy but I certainly understand horrendous rashes, you have my utmost sympathy. Here's an electronic hug

Fudypatootie  (Level: 205.9 - Posts: 1302)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 12:58 PM

Jan, I'll be praying for the safe return of your sweet baby.

As for the poison ivy, go find some Tecnu. This is a wash that was designed by some nuclear scientist to wash off radioactive dust but his wife discovered that it washes away plant oils. I always use it in the shower with COLD water, (hot spreads the oils around) and it really keeps me from breaking out in itchy blisters (I've got some plant in the yard I'm allergic to -not poison ivy). When I do miss a spot and end up with the bumps, I take Benadryl and I put lots of Calagel on. It's a clear gel so you can put it on any visible areas without looking like a plague victim like when using calamine.

Once you've got the rash, the Tecnu won't do much, but you could use it to wash off the offending pet so you don't re-expose yourself.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

Lodi  (Level: 106.0 - Posts: 2144)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 1:23 PM

We DID look like plague victims with the Calamine lotion, now that you mention it.

Not that I ever cared as a kid.

Jeannette  (Level: 114.7 - Posts: 1735)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 2:01 PM

praying for the safe return of winston xcalamine lotion was mums stock intrade for most rashes very pretty we looked all white blotches lol xj

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 5:46 PM

So what you're saying is I can't take a week off work, huh?

Lodi - I actually think I could gain the sympathy vote with calamine lotion blotches all over! ha

Wow - thank you for your kindnesses and prayers. This busy school week is keeping me so focused on student and orch details that at least I'm not at home alone, dwelling on my sadness, missing Winston constantly.....and scratching.

I made the dumbest mistake at school today. I wanted to demonstrate a technique on violin, but I didn't have my own instrument with me. A student offered to let me use hers, which I did.

Then I went to hand it back to her - and THEN she said - "I don't want it! Will I get poison ivy from it?"

Good grief - I didn't even think of that!!! It didn't touch anywhere on my arm where I have a rash, and I did wear a long sleeve blouse, but still.... I asked her next time to say that BEFORE I touch someone's violin!

PS. Winston weighed about 10 lbs. But he was the only dog who would have attacked anybody he thought was even looking at me with anything but the sweetest thoughts! The golden retriever, Zipp, would just keep smiling, and Shaggy, the mixed terrier, would just keep turning in circles. Winston was my baby from the first time I laid eyes on him. He was owned by the babysitter of one of my students. The babysitter once brought him with her to pick up the student. I looked in his eyes, and he looked into mine, and it was love both ways! Not long after that, the babysitter called begging me to come get him, his bowls, his clothes, his grooming equipment - everything. He had pooped on her carpet and she was livid and never wanted to see him again.

And so he came to be mine.

I have tile.

Mplaw51  (Level: 184.8 - Posts: 1581)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 7:11 PM

Poison ivy isn't spread from the rash on your body. It's spread by the oil from the plant itself. Generally it gets on your clothes and body. You can get the rash several days later because the oils are on the clothing you wore and you may be doing the laundry then or touching these clothes or shoes. That's where Tecnu comes in. Even the weepy stuff isn't any more contagious to you, it's just where you were contaminated originally by the oil. The pediatrician told me this when my son got a bad case of poison oak many years ago.

Buchanan  (Level: 81.3 - Posts: 339)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:30 PM

I have a toy yorkie so I know what your feeling,I don't think I could function if Eddie was gone,hes 9yrs old and the boss,he sleeps with us,loves cheese curds,ice cream and sugar wafers just to name a few.I hope you find your dog.the poison ivy,i'm not sure,I've heard different things,my mom had it once and poured straight clorox on it but I wouln't recommend that.good luck.buchanan

Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6644)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:46 PM

When I was a little girl my mom gave me calamine lotion. I walked around looking like a zombie with it on...LOL I don't remember too much but I think it took a couple of days before it dried the rash up. As for your dog I hope he comes back.

Virtus  (Level: 169.8 - Posts: 2489)
Wed, 26th Aug '09 8:53 PM

I hope and pray Winston will be found safe and sound. Once I had poison ivy and went to the doctor and was put on prednisone which did the trick. The only real way to prepare for the stressful first days of school is SLEEP. Take care of yourself, Anne

Bobolicios  (Level: 119.6 - Posts: 1745)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 12:19 AM

Jan I used to get it so bad at college, (campus was loaded with it) that I got a shot every spring. My face was once affected and the inside of my mouth so I had to go to hospital and get a shot. My advice is if over counter doesnt work go to doctor for stronger meds. I hope you find your little doggy. Love Bobo

Uturntama  (Level: 51.0 - Posts: 179)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 12:49 AM

Dear Lord......please let Winston come back home safely. Afterall, he is man's best friend. Please allow this miracle to take place if it is your will and give Jan the strength to endure.......I am an animal lover.....especially dogs so my heart is with you and aching a bit also. I pray for the very best.......Tama

Godwit  (Level: 81.2 - Posts: 435)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 2:47 AM

Part of my volunteer job for two years was teaching the community about poison ivy. So, correct about the COLD water. Never put hot water on poison ivy because that does help it spread. Right--it does not spread to others. However it can become systemic...that means it will stop spreading topically and spread throughout your system. At that point it can make you quite sick. So watch for it appearing all over, and puffiness and swelling of your hands or limbs, especially of your eyes....get to the MD for a shot. They will give you a shot and it will be gone in no time.

Many people don't get to that point, so don't panic. I'm just saying be aware it CAN get that serious, so keep an eye on yourself. If you feel like you "have to" scratch, apply cold water or vinegar for a break from the itch.

Apple Cider VINEGAR is a good solution for halting the itch. As well as the Calamine others have mentioned. Even wet baking soda can be soothing. Also, don't let yourself get too hot. Stay in air conditioning and don't go jogging. Heat spreads ivy.

For the cats, get some SODA WATER, lightly wet a cloth and rub them down just a bit, with it. That is good for taking off the allergens that irritate people, too--if you have a visitor allergic to cats, soda water them before the visitors arrive. It will help for a while. It may have come from the cats (they go outside?) or it may have been any number of places. Some people can get it just by standing nearby. Or some fool burned some ivy and got it into the wind.

Then when you feel better, go see if you have ivy growing near your house.(Shiny, three leaves, if it's Fall it may have red leaves). If so, I'll tell you--or some other of the fabulous gardeners here can too-- how to correctly get rid of it.

Good luck!!

Godwit  (Level: 81.2 - Posts: 435)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 3:08 AM

Not to be a smarty pants--it's just two of the few issues I do know a little about.

My mom was in animal rescue for several years. She often says the important thing to do is search as much as you can, quickly. She would say you did great by contacting authorities....but you also need to hurry and make a whole bunch of signs with a good photo and description, pleading that people look for the dog. Because lots of people will pick up a dog, or he'll follow them home, and they figure he's lost or stray and so they never call the animal rescue or pound. Also the rescue people are dedicated and tough, and work so hard--but some of them don't know a beagle from a Newfoundland. Another words, they won't recognize your dog when it comes in or when you call to ask about it. You have to go down there.

Why the hurry? Because a dog can get far away, fast. Because they get hungry, lost and wet and overheated or cold and so forth. Once they are lost or hungry they are much harder to find. Sorry to pain you with that...but it's true. So...gather your friends to help you with this. You need a dog-hunt, photo in hand.

And then...if you don't find him....know he knows how much you love him, he is used to love and affection, for a while he will look like a loved and well cared for dog to whoever finds him, and he will seek human contact, and possibly keep looking for you, and home. He could show up on his own, anytime.

What mom did was to spend as much time as she could outside. Walk around calling, it on the porch, do stuff in the yard--as much as she could. So he may pick up your scent or hear his name or your voice, and get oriented back home. They can't smell or hear us in a car.

OR...if the stinker chased a rabbit and then found a nice neighbor who gave him a big bone...he'll suddenly realize he's missing you and head back when he hears you.

I hope any of that helps. The gist is he needs you to actively search, search search as soon as you can. Don't tell yourself he's gone or dead, not until you have done this intense search and put his face up and asked your neighbors and combed the pound and your property a few times. Dogs even hide under bushes if they were injured. So ask for help checking everywhere. It sounds like he would do all that for you in a heartbeat.

It's also possible he's safe in someone's house. I know we all get to a place where we decide in our minds what we believe happened and we have to move on with life. But that's not this week, for you, I hope.

and then, consider Chipping a dog. It's a godsend for rescuers. Mom once rescued a dog in Iowa, which has jumped from the car at a gas station, and then gotten disoriented by all the strangers and strange smells, and ran away. The owner couldn't stop and didn't know where to look and had to keep going after a couple of days...but mom found the dog, he was chipped, she contacted the man, who lived in OREGON...and he turned right around and drove back for the dog. A happy ending.

Wishing you help from all sources possible...

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 4:05 AM

I am soooo sorry to hear about your dog Winston, and agree with
you - it's good to have distractions at a time like this....

I do hope you find him soon, is there anywhere he could have
fallen down a hole or got into an area he can' get out of????
I've had cats in the past who have done that and haven't cried
out for my help for several days. Then we have been so happy to
be reunited.

Also, Good Luck with your Poisin Ivy. When I was a girl we used
to rub dandelion leaves on the rash to take it away.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 6:58 AM

Wow. What great posts, you guys!

Row - I never heard of the dandelion leaves treatment - thanks for sharing that!

Godwit - your advice sounds very professional and helpful too. Thanks for all that. I'm printing it out (and others here) so I can keep them with me the next few days (I don't want to forget all the good advice).

Tama - thank you for praying on the spot. I really appreciate that! I don't know where Winston is, but God knows exactly what happened and where he is.

If this had just happened any time during the past 10 weeks, I could look for him every day. As it is, I'm gone from sun up to sun down now with school. I don't know this had to happen the first day of school. It's very limiting.

M48ortal  (Level: 262.0 - Posts: 3830)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 5:12 PM

What is it with Yorkies and carpet?? Our daughter-in-law was just visiting and brought our Yorkie grand-dog, "Samson," with her. She left yesterday but had to go straight to work, so my wife said we would baby-sit Samson and bring him with us this weekend. Samson moped around most of yesterday, and pouted when we went to bed. (If Don Knots came back as a dog, he would be Samson).

When I got up this morning, Samson had left a message on our bedroom carpet. It said, " I... don't... like... it... here... very... much..." It took me a while to match the message sizes up to human words, but I'm pretty sure I have the gist of it.

I would have gladly given Samson to you at that point if he had been mine.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 5:14 PM


Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 6:29 PM

Sorry about your dog! I don't have the answer for anything on this thread!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 6:30 PM

That's ok. Sometimes women just need you to listen even if you can't fix it.

Collioure  (Level: 113.7 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 27th Aug '09 6:34 PM

Yup, Jank. Took me quite a few years to learn that one.

Now just log on and tell us that Winston came home, please.

M48ortal  (Level: 262.0 - Posts: 3830)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 12:14 AM

As I said in an earlier post, one of our grand-dogs, a very insecure Yorkie named Samson, is staying with us through the end of the week. His whiny nature is beginning to wear on the resident grand-dog, a Scottie named MacGregor.

We learned from last night's episode that Samson requires a late-night outing, probably due to his gerbil-sized bladder, so at 11:30, we let both dogs out for a quick relief mission.

Samson did not even bother to leave the deck. He pranced over to a deck chair, hiked, and whizzed on the chair leg. While he was doing this, MacGregor followed him, hiked, and whizzed all over Samson.

I promise, Jan, if I owned Samson, he would be yours!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 5:21 AM

I'm laughing through my tears!

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 6:03 AM

We had a Yorkie when I was a kid - Robbie.
Went out for a walk one day and came across an evil looking canine, part Doberman part dinosaur, which took a real slobbering interest in snacking on a Robbie McNugget.
Until Rob dived between his legs and bit him the only place he could reach - directly on his, um, meat and two veg!
Big scary dog turned tail and ran, dragging his (idiot) owner behind him.

I hope your wee doggie turns up safe and well Jank.

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