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felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:31 PM

CENSORSHIP

I feel insulted by the Editors. Please delete them all at once. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. BTW! I just saw a bumper sticker : My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car. Is nothing sacred?

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:33 PM

If we delete the editors, who will make sure our quizzes and puzzles are "up to snuff"? I sure don't want to do a puzzle without my editor checking it over. Speak for yourelf Felix.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:34 PM

and speak for yourself, too, Felix.

See, I need an editor.


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:35 PM

Quizzes? There are quizzes on here? Kewl.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:39 PM

Yeah, the quizzes, puzzles and kerblunks have gotten kinda lost in the hullaballoo haven't they?

Gee, that's a good word I should have put in the thread of words, words, words. Hullaballoo (or is it hallabaloo?) is a fun word to say. I'll have to look up the spelling so I can use it more often.

flyingluci
Flyingluci  (Level: 47.3 - Posts: 340)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:43 PM

salzypat i really do like that new word and agree about the quizzes. Flyingluci

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:46 PM

Hullabaloo was a variety show in the 60's remember. I was young neverless I remember shindig and hullabaloo and all that groovy stuff. Remember that this is NOT the twilight zone.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:49 PM

The word hullabaloo is an English noun meaning an uproar or fuss.

Just for you with inquiring minds who want to know.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:54 PM

It's MIller Time!

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 10:59 PM

Amen.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:00 PM

I like Dennis Miller.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:01 PM

Me too!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:03 PM

So have they deleted the Editors yet?

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:09 PM

No big brother is still in charge.

flcyclist
Flcyclist  (Level: 124.6 - Posts: 691)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:10 PM

Who's Dennis Miller?

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:14 PM

Bigmama - "editors are not scared"??? Perhaps you meant sacred? Maybe the post needed an editor??

I got to Sploofus in the fall of 2005. Editors had apparently started in the very recent past. I took loads of pre-editor quizzes, cause that was mostly what was around then. By and large, they were dreadful. The five choices frequently read "pick the other choice", "not this one", "it's the other one". "see this is the right answer", and "duh, I told you to pick the other one". Maybe that's cute for one quiz - but when you open quiz after quiz like that...well, you can see why it was felt that editors were needed.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:17 PM

Censorship is just plain wrong, but can we blame the editors ? Wasn't it Justin that started this crusade against freedom of speech ? Just because one or two prudes complained does not mean he had to comply. I would even question if editing quizzes qualifies you to censor other people's thoughts.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:18 PM

I don't recall anyone saying editors were not needed for quizzes. Not sure about the censorship issues. On one hand it is a family site. On the other hand members do pay to post on SD, and it is an open forum. I really don't know what the answer is but the paying members should be involved in decisions, unless Justin can run the site without them. Other sites have gone down this one may too.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:22 PM

Probably as in real life, one's right to swing one's arm ends at another's nose.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:27 PM

Extremely well put, never thought of that. You are a great one! I will have to remember that and tell my kids!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:29 PM

"Speak for yourelf Felix."



lol...

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:30 PM

Another country heard from.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:42 PM

Bigbird

I made a boo boo , editors are are not sacred; scary yes. Neither are they infallible as I've seen EAs and quizzes laden with mistakes as of this present year. What gives the editor the right to refute someone's writing and put their imprimatur on someone else's idea? That's crazy and disrespectful. Sorry I misspelled sacred; but you got my drift. That is my whole point. In regards to the format; who ever authored the quiz gave you a correct choice; right? I'm sure there are more challenging quizzes you can choose from for those you find unsuitable to your taste. I respect everyone's ability to be creative.

diva305
Diva305  (Level: 146.7 - Posts: 1651)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:58 PM

Felix speaks to elves?

I think there's meds for that.



salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 28th Aug '09 11:59 PM

Bigmama, I have taken several quizzes on Facebook - which obviously does not have editors. The quality of those quizzes is horrendous. Some of their ideas are great but when they don't know if the word should be you or your or you're, it really bugs me. And that's just one simple example. Punctuation, spelling and grammar are out the window. It's stupid.

If what is on Facebook is any example of what the Sploofus editors have to face hundreds of times a week, I think you should be thanking them, not criticizing.

When I was just married and before I had children, I would say, "My kids aren't going to do that" or "I'll make my kids behave." My mother would just smile, shake her head and say, "You'll find out there were times you were talking when you should have been listening."

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:15 AM

Pat - There are quizzes on Facebook? I'm completely addicted to Spot the Difference. It's after midnight, and I think I need to head over there now....

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:34 AM

Sure - it's all of those "What Biblical Person are you most like?" or "What rock star are you most like?

Most of them are junk. A few are OK. Very few.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:05 AM

Smaug left the country?

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:27 AM

There's no such thing as unlimited freedom of speech as far as I know anywhere in the world. So, out of curiosity, what's the big deal here??

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:32 AM

As a quiz writer who quit writing quizzes because an editor accused me of plagerism of general knowledge, I still think editors and censorship are neccessary. The majority of quizzes are OK, but quite a few are not, and as for censorship, if the likes of some certain players were given full flow, then the whole site would degenerate into a pornographic, insulting match with no holds barred. So there.

didb72
Didb72  (Level: 210.0 - Posts: 243)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:42 AM

Too many people hide themselves behind the so called freedom of speech to justify unacceptable comments. For once I agree with Barnier Rubble, just a shame he left quiz writing, I got the same problem as him once....

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:14 AM

Yestreday believe it was just one editor whoi got consumed with power an got delete happpy-not sure could have been more. I was here before the editors and wrote quizzes and those of you who know how badly I type can imagine the results. I paid for it in the ratings and learned to be more careful. After the editors arrived, they helped me and I appreciate that. Probably would be difficult with the puzzkes if they were gone-not sure never written any.. On the chat boards though do not believe they should be able to post at least on the same thread as ttheir editor and player selves. Many or a least a few don'yt know what impartiality is. It is starting fr me to be more minuse than plusses with their presence-the powere thing.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:00 AM

That's part of of the problem, Linda. There is no consistency and little fairness on what is deleted. I too quit writing quizzes because the of the editors feeling the site is all about them. It's doubtful any o them could handle more than a quiz fairly without hiding behind there editor's status. Deleting a comment and leaving the comment that led to it is unfair. I thought the quizzes on Facebook were as good as any here. They are direct and lack the inane fluff that is rewarded in the ever subjective EA. In trivia (especially if you are being timed) the Kiss method works over wordy every time. Have a great day!

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:04 AM

Yes it is all about power deleted thread already this am

Sploofus Editor
Sploofacadabra (Editor)  
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:22 AM

That is not correct, Caramel1. Every editor available was involved in the decisions made here yesterday. No one is on a power trip, and we do not have leave either from Justin or from each other to pursue personal vendettas by deleting comments without cause.

It is our most unpleasant duty to restore order when people do not practice self-control in what they post. This is a duty we have been too slow in fulfilling in the past, but we are now of the collective opinion that drastic action is called for if we are to stop the destruction of this community by a few posters who can't get along.

We will continue to remove posts which are insulting and demeaning to other members, and we remind you that this includes editors, so if you choose to turn your hostilities into a round of good old-fashioned editor-bashing, we'll be removing those as well.

If everyone will practice simple good manners everyone can move on from this.

Thank you.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:24 AM

If you say so-then please ignore my last post-still think it unfair for editors aand players to post as both but not my site but don

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:33 AM

LOL only one of my prior post was deleted the one I said you could ignore-telling

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:36 AM

Don owns the site? I am confused!
And I want to hear more about Felix and the elf!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:39 AM

So the editors DO collaborate. Explains a lot. The Elf thing was just a phase.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:41 AM

Palma, I speak IN Elf. It's a tongue acquired after being attacked by a reindeer.

pennwoman
Pennwoman  (Level: 155.2 - Posts: 2478)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:03 AM

The Don thing was a joke, Caramel, lighten up.


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:09 AM

Yes also please delete any threads making mention of:

The Chicago Cubs
NASCAR
Country Music
Word Puzzle Back Slaps
Obama


As I have deemed all these offensive unto myself and that is a point that cannot be argued. Thanks in advance for your sense of fair play and unbiased cooperation.



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:53 AM

now you got it

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:55 AM

It appears as if THEDON is our editor on duty today.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:56 AM

Wow. That was fast. Nothing could have proven my point more obviously.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 9:57 AM

Janks last post and mine were deleted cannot call the editors on selkective delletion it seems

Sploofus Editor
Sploofacadabra (Editor)  
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:04 AM

Jank0614, yesterday you were resigned to having your account deleted as the price to say something extremely offensive to another member. Today you are concerned about selectivity in deletions of individual posts. There is no selectivity. Any post deliberately demeaning and insulting to other members of this community will be removed.

The end.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:10 AM

Then can you explain why all offensive remarks are not deleted? Calling someone ignorant that disagrees with you is offensive, but I guess if an editor does that under their player ID then it is okay.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:22 AM

Deletions are selective whether editors asdmit it or not-now delete this as the only ones I could have possibly offended was you!!

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:23 AM

What I said was in response to someone who was extremely offensive to me. Yet you didn't delete that comment as it stood.

Had you deleted the original post, I wouldn't have said what I did.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:25 AM

They have the power, Jank, protest is futile

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:25 AM

I'm not protesting. I'm standing up for what is right.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:53 AM

As long as editors can post as dual identities and have the power to delete-do not expect fair

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:56 AM

I just noticed that one of the JABS posted by an editor under his player ID has been deleted. Yet another advantage, Hit and Run.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:04 AM

I'm just curious -- don't any of you have lawns to mow, dirty dishes in the sink, elderly neighbors to check on, errands to run??????


Probably not. Otherwise you wouldn't have time to be here griping about something so inconsequential.

I'm off to work an hour or two helping reorganize the church library and then work the afternoon at the tourist information center and finally attend a fund-raiser tonight for our local United Way. I hope that somewhere in there I'll have time for a nap!

You kids all play nice while I am gone, OK?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:06 AM

Like you, Pat, but what is inconsequential to you is not to many

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:08 AM

Saw that immediately, Felix

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:09 AM

Wasn't there an ice cream treat Al was trying to get named Sploofusgoofus?

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.4 - Posts: 1684)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:10 AM

"one of the JABS posted by an editor under his player ID has been deleted."

Editor under his ID? Once again a reference that implies that there must be a list of player/editor names. If some members are privy to this list why can't all members see the list. Who has the list and where did it come from? Just asking....

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:12 AM

Nope, no list-he outed himself yesterday-expect this post to disappear too

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:14 AM

Yes, lets all have ALL the names and many of the problems might disappear

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:21 AM

Writing styles and arrogance transcend which way they logon.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:30 AM

Felix, I didn't call YOU ignorant, I quoted one sentence from a post and said that particular statement was either ignorant or dishonest, and I specified that by ignorant I meant ill-informed, as in unaware or ignorant of facts that might lead to a different understanding of that statement. I included dishonest (which apparently didn't bother you, but I'd far rather be ignorant than dishonest if I had to be either) because it is sometimes difficult to believe that people truly understand what they're saying and still say it anyway. If someone says to me, for instance, "everything is the fault of [scapegoat of choice]" then I can only conclude that they are fact-challenged in some way on that point. Other than that they may be lovely people.

You are not an ignorant person, Felix, in spite of your lack of comprehension of the subtleties of ... NASCAR.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:33 AM

And here I was thinking that I was the Master of Left-handed compliments. I bow in your presence.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:37 AM

Conservative folks are just "misinformed' thus their posts that the liberal progressives find offensive can be deleted SWEET. Now back to players having dual identities and the power to delete-SUCKS

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:40 AM

I don't have a dual identity, and I wasn't talking about any "folks", I was talking about one sentence in one post only.



caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:42 AM

Okay if you say so

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:43 AM

Bless your heart.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:46 AM

Bless your heart as well, Smoke Dual identies with the power to delete unfair and SUCK!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:50 AM

You think if I had the power to delete any of your threads would be left standing? Justin should just install a direct link to FOX and save you all the work.

Not going to fight with you, Linda, it's old and tired and boring.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:17 PM

Perhaps you did lose that power-duuno-but many who think like you including the arrogant one that Felix was referencing about the jab and then delete have not Cheers

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:33 PM

There are very few who think like me, and with all due respect you don't know enough about me to make that call.

bakerstreeet
Bakerstreeet  (Level: 42.7 - Posts: 187)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:35 PM

Wow, this is all pretty intense and I'm taken aback by the seemingly endless rancor over editing and more troubling, attacks specifically directed en masse at editors. I'm not sure I understand any position that argues IN FAVOR of insulting fellow members. I had been a journalist in my former life, and there were tons of editors. Theirs was a thankless job -- and they got paid! It's my understanding that the editors on Sploofus are volunteers, donating their time and talents to making this site the best that's possible. There will always be disagreements over editing decisions, but it seems that without editors there would be no way to clean up quizzes, or to maintain any standards whatsoever. Plagurism is a valid criticism, and I appreciate anyone who stops me from committing it! If allowed on a for-profit site, Sploofus could easily be sued. Also, this is a family friendly site, and people who expect that standard to be maintained are just as important and should be respected just as much as those who would push the envelope into offensive language, topics, etc., that would certainly be rated 'R' anywhere else. No one should be forced off this site because their views are attacked, or simply because they HAVE different views. If this constant bickering over so-called censorship never ends, perhaps you all should consider removing the family-friendly designation on the site, or at least on this forum. If not, then you should accept that family-friendly standards will be maintained by the editors, to the best of their abilities. It is their job, for goodness sake, and I for one, am thankful for their efforts. If I have a problem with any editing decision, I will deal with it privately, rather than constantly throwing public taunts and insults at all of them in this increasingly unpleasant forum. Emily

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:42 PM

In the classroom, my students always hated if I punished an entire class for the noise of only a few members of the class, and frankly, I didn't often do it because I didn't like it either. Instead, I preferred to call out the offending members, when they could be determined, and make sure everyone knew who was going to be getting in trouble.

Maybe editors could adopt a similar policy. Instead of being as diplomatic as they are about not naming names, maybe they should. Certain members might be less likely to get rude with others if they're going to be called on the carpet by the editors for it. Just a thought.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:49 PM

What this joint needs is a penalty box.

Time-out step, whatever.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:52 PM

Smoke, I'm too scared of your new avatar to do anything other than agree with you.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:54 PM

Brilliant post, Emily.

bakerstreeet
Bakerstreeet  (Level: 42.7 - Posts: 187)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:55 PM

Thanks!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 12:57 PM

And who told you to be scared, Fudy? Hmmm? Could it be ... Satan??

Or ... the Batman!!

Bwahahahaah!!!

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:02 PM

Stop it!!!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:06 PM

Now, now, dry your eyes and don't be scared. It's only makeup. I'm just trying out some Halloween costumes, there's going to be a big party.

spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 159.0 - Posts: 667)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:10 PM

Till the offensive comments made against me last year (they are still there) are removed the Editors words are just rhetoric.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:17 PM

I am all for "Family Friendly' just fair 'Family Friendly" :. Believe the worst name-callling anyone can ever prove I did was referring to POTUS as TOTUS- disrespectful most likely but not name-calling. Identify and delete the name-callers not the entire thread or opinions with which you disagree. When I first arrived here lots of now unacceptable to many of the newer folks words used here. I used them too. Took to using blanks and replacement words until someone I like objected. Some still do that while others get deleted. Delete if you must but fairly.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:48 PM

Note: in the Sheehan deletion the editor noted not only name-calling but insults would not be tolerated. Because a few here believe themselves of "Superior" intellect they insult and demean you by who and what you choose to believe by calling them names or insulting them. Just so we are clear as to what is tolerated and what is deleted

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 1:59 PM

I don't think the Cone of Sploofus Protection extends to Glenn Beck.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:10 PM

Is Becks Cone unhoned? Just a joke Linda - well I think it is funny.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:11 PM

Too bad he knows the scoop-should have know it would be last word "Smoke"-post again LOL

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:16 PM

Linda, how can I ever have the last word if you won't shut up?

Oops.

Dammit, she got me again.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:32 PM

Smoke, that's so much better. I'm not scared now.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:34 PM

Angus is a hundred pound puppy, he doesn't scare anybody for very long. Look at that puss.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:36 PM

Angus is beautiful Donna

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:38 PM

Look for your post to be deleted, Andy, that is how it works here

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:41 PM

Yup-"poof" told ya so..

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:41 PM

Thanks! He's a great dog, too. Been my best buddy for 10 years and going strong!

Apparently he's large for his breed. Wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone say "That's the biggest damn Weemerwanger I ever saw!"

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.3 - Posts: 1025)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:51 PM

He's got a big weemerwanger? I believe that's the funniest euphemism I've ever heard!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:52 PM

Group hug?

hmmmmmmm.........WOT !!!!! (slaps Sploofunningulus)

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 2:53 PM

One of the funnest things about having him is the amazing number of hilarious ways people mispronounce Weimaraner.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:43 PM

Since these values seemed slanted, do we assume that their heads are a well? Just askin'?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:44 PM

That one is "iffy" on remaining, Andy, depends on if THEDON is still axing things

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:45 PM

Was that a new record for guilty over reaction or what?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:46 PM

"POoF" THEDON must still be here

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:47 PM

Just more proof that players should not be editors and editors should not be children.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:49 PM

Oh, my, the editors can't even accept constructive criticism.



felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:50 PM

Look out, Andy! There gonna delete that twice.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:50 PM

I don't think they're interested in criticism, I think they just want us to knock off the crap. I'm happy to do that.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:51 PM

Now you got it!!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:52 PM

Can someone fill in for me. We are off to catch the early bird special.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:54 PM

That one is gone in a heartbeat, Andy

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:55 PM

Donna, one thing they apparently aren't interested in is fairness.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:56 PM

I guess I should leave then.

Now I know what's it like to live in a totalitarian state.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 3:59 PM

Stay Andy. It has to get better.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:01 PM

Andy, I wasn't around for the flame war that brought the editors down on us, guess you could say I'm ignorant about what all the fuss is about. All I know is what friends sent me in PMs and it sounded pretty gross, not surprised talk like that got some threads killed. Dunno what's fair about mudslinging. Looks like they took out Bobo's and Bigmama's threads, so you should be happy.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:03 PM

Oh, stop chewing the curtains, Andy. "Now I know what it's like to live in a totalitarian country." Because you got a couple snarky internet posts zapped? Get a grip. dude.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:04 PM

Donna, apparently rehashing what happened here is not kosher.

The editors equivocate a response to a post as a comment upon its author.

Simply not true.

I will continue to identify racist posts.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:05 PM

No, Donna, it really is like living in a totalitarian society.

I've never experienced that before.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:07 PM

I actually apologized to the editor and they sent me a reply. I have toned it down since then to a more light hearted approach to my posts on threads. I don't believe in censoring the SD like we were little children but I don't want to see anyone get so upset over words that they quit. I quite like everyone on here even if I disagree with their view. Politics is always going to make for strange bedfellows now I know why. I am not up in arms that they deleted my posts I guess I should have thought before posting.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:08 PM

I am unsure if I would be having as much fun were it sans lager postings.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:11 PM

Well, I think people who actually do live in totalitarian societies would disagree with you.



collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:13 PM

You can speak freely in totalitarian societies now, Donna?

(because you can't here)

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:17 PM

That little trick of rhetorical contortion doesn't rate a response. Easier if you respond to what I actually say.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:19 PM

Smoke, Bless your little pea pickin' heart!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:20 PM

Same to you, darlin'.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:20 PM

Once more with feeling, Donna.

It really is like living in a totalitarian society.

You know, when you told me that you did not want the country in which you lived to engage in any form of torture, I believed you. I understood where you were coming from.

Now this really is like living in a totalitarian society.


bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:24 PM

I think we have all gotten a way with saying some unkind words to each other. Our views on whatever politcal hotbed issue is not a reason to be rude or insulting to each other. We are never going to change each others mind on issues that are so firmly believed. I am going to think first before letting anyone on here make me behave like an 8th grader. You would be wise to do the same.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:27 PM

That feeling is hilarity, Andy. I cannot take you seriously if you're going to equate being zapped in the Salty Dog with living in Stalin's Russia or Castro's Cuba or North Korea. It's way past 1984, buddy, I guess them totalitarian societies jes' ain't what they used to be.

You start off by saying you've never lived in a totalitarian society, and in the same breath you declare this is exactly like one.

Too funny.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:30 PM

It's the same thing.

It's no accident our founding fathers put Freedom of Speech in the First Amendment.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:30 PM

Andy, why are you taking this so seriously. I can already tell that it is calming everything down. That is exactly what the intent was. You can still blather on in unabashed freedom, if anyone out there will listen.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:34 PM

Just posting on point, Bobo.

Read into it whatever you wish.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:35 PM

Are you always so serious, there is a lighter side to this.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:38 PM

Sploofus only has one Founding Father, and he wants us to not say mean stuff to each other. What's so tough?

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:38 PM

"Various exceptions to free speech have been recognized in American law, including obscenity, defamation, breach of the peace, incitement to crime, "fighting words," and sedition."

http://www.csulb.edu/~jvancamp/freedom1.html

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:39 PM

Just read this entire thread for the first time. I got one question:

HUH?

What on earth is this all about?

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:39 PM

Try the word "deliberative," Bobo.

Facts are facts.

I try to deal in facts.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:41 PM

That ain't the word I'd use, but it's your post, dude.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:43 PM

Donna, you're nice to stick up for the editors, but it ain't workin.

This is just like trying to express oneself in a totalitarian society. You have to measure very word. Got it now?

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:45 PM

Not until you get arrested, thrown in a dungeon, starved and tortured and disappeared for having a computer.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:47 PM

Hey I just used sarcasm another thread and it wasn't deleted. There are ways to speak to each other, and don't forget this is all in writing where a person's inflections and tone are not heard. It makes for misconception and interpretation of the worse sort.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:47 PM

Hey, move to Cuba.

Send us all postcards.

Thanks.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 4:54 PM

Hey you can move there and teach them all French. Bring them some wine as well, hey you will be near Gitmo. Tell us how you like it.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:13 PM

Maybe my memory is failing witbh age, Smoke, but which "flame wars" are you referencing? When you quit think it was for about a week. During that time you played word puzzles on your hubby's account -not going to get into if that was ethical or not again -so doubt you missed anything on SD that you had to hear about via pm. Were you sick in bed when the ruckus came over Justin seemingly saying no more political posts? Just want to be clear on what "flame war' you missed not that it matters you are who you are and I am who I am.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:16 PM

Can you confirm that i had a post censored. Can you explain why.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:19 PM

I would wager if you two met you might actually get along. Or is it just wishful thinking on my part.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:20 PM

Andy, tell us what you REALLY, GENUINELY know about living in a totalitarian society/country. I want facts. Give us a list of totalitarian countries you have lived in, taken an extended visit, how long? Give us real life examples of how you were suppressed, censored, mistreated. Put some context our your up to now hollow words.

Bottom line, getting your post zapped because you focus on the who, instead of the what in your petty flame wars with Bev and a couple others does not even make this a dollar store quality totalitarian society, let alone a real one. Your treating a tiddily wink like a manhole cover. I wonder how you would act if those you are so quick to trade flames with across the anonymity of the Internet were sitting in your front room?

Oh ya, BTW, you may have forgot that my wife is from mainland China. We still own a house there, and travel there. I have had plenty of up close looks at how a real totalitarian society operates, even though it is a waning one.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:23 PM

Right on!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:31 PM

If i wrote something offensive here, how long would it take for it to be removed ? I want to know why my post was removed........NOW.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:39 PM

I'm still waiting. I could write something REALLY offensive here, to see how long it takes to get a response of course, Wanna try me ?

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:39 PM

What did you say? Wow I wish I could read it you always have some zingers.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:42 PM

I said people asking for prayers etc offended my intelligence. I said when i called somebody stupid i felt i had more proof than others had for believing in a zombie.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:50 PM

You guys are like kids with skinned knees screaming that your leg is broken.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 5:59 PM

Hey I am playing nice. I don't want to take all my marbles and go home.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 6:19 PM

Steve, I do focus on the what and not the who - ALL THE TIME.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 6:28 PM

I'm not screaming anything, Donna.

I am stating.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 6:32 PM

Stop it, Andy. I am going to break a rib laughing...and I can't afford the U.S. health care system. If you really believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn. Those last two threads were pulled because of you and a couple others trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension. I have heard people complain that who don't seem to read, only skim the posts of other people. Do you also only skim what you write???

BTW...where is the info on totalitarian countries I requested? Let's get this back on track.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 6:43 PM

I don't believe identifying racist posts is trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension, Steve.

I don't believe calling childish the White House's campaign for health care reform (where they can't stop lying and keep falsely claiming their adversaries are hooligans) is trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension, Steve.

And I surely don't believe that in our last exchange that my second response was trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension. You had the story backwards and were effectively engaging in hatespeech, Steve.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:04 PM

Reread the post. Too bad you can reread those post. There was a lot more than some innocent "identifying racist posts is trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension,..."

"I don't believe calling childish the White House's campaign for health care reform (where they can't stop lying and keep falsely claiming their adversaries are hooligans) is trading non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension, Steve." You are right, although I wish you would provide some alternative ideas instead of mere criticism. However, the other comments you so conveniently forget were non-substantive barbs, insults and condescension, Andy. You really need to read what you write.

So, anyway, where is the info on totalitarian countries I requested? Let's get this back on track.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:12 PM

Thanks for that, Steve.

I'd welcome a review of my part of that thread. Maybe that was the one where someone seemingly fantasized about seeing some KKK recently another poster said they were recruiting in two southern states. Having looked at Wikipedia, I would have nothing of it. Membership is insignificant and law enforcement is all over them these days. Bunch of twerps.

I'm think I've been saying that I now know what's it's like to live in a totalitarian state. No, I haven't ever lived in one, but I've heard from enough refugees and seen enough movies and plays to understand the situation on the ground there.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:21 PM

And it's exactly like getting a post toasted on Sploofus.

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:22 PM

"...seen enough movies and plays to understand the situation on the ground there."

LMAO!

You sir are a cipher, nothing more. Well done on showing yourself up so definitively.
I look forward to your bluster.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:29 PM

I won't respond to your name-calling in kind, Martin.

Just understand that some of us do not respond well to arbitrary censorship.

I'm sorry you and others object to the comparison I have used. It works for me.

Now you all can go back to defending the editors whose partisanship is evident to some of us, if not to you.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:36 PM

I can agree to a point with you. Others were just are guilty as you. But two, three wrongs by others does not validate any you may have made. While I am not a fan of censorship, I feel no sense of loss from the disappearance of those petty spats. I also am well acquainted with the 1st amendment, and the limitations, definitions and clarifications that have been put on it by conservative and liberal Supreme Courts. It is not the one-way street with all green lights that many want to believe it to be.

I don't want to downplay your exposure to totalitarian states, but refugees and their stories are only one of the three standard versions of any given story. We have Sudanese refugees at our church. Their stories are fascinating and tragic, but I know there is so much more to learn about the situation there. Movies and plays tend to be romanticized drama, no matter how good. Some can be pretty accurate, but there are no guarantees without other corroboration. And, there is no substitute for having to think about everything you do when you walk down the street, make a phone call, engage in a conversation or write a letter or email. It would be like me telling my friend, Larry, I understand the Vietnam war because I saw Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, Hello, Vietnam, Green Berets, etc. He was wounded three times and has a shoulder that is half metal from a mortar round that ultimately sent him home.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:42 PM

Guilty of what, Steve? Sorry, does not compute.

BTW I'm sure that living in a totalitarian state must be much nicer than all those "romanticized dramas" I saw. Strange then that so many tried to escape, some of whom were gunned down seeking freedom, opportunity and a better life.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:51 PM

Who am I, Andy?

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 7:58 PM

Why Beverly, you are a regular Fox viewer like many of us here

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:00 PM

Don't forget, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, AND PBS,

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.4 - Posts: 21603)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:03 PM

Aren't those all the same news source???

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 8:06 PM

I read posts, all of them if I am going to comment. In those deleted posts you made several personal remarks to others. Some of those remarks were, shall we say a bit too smug and impolite. They were directed at the person, not the issue. You may have missed them, or you have a different standard than others for what is polite discourse and what is condescending and boorish. Regardless, many found them in poor taste. AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you were not the only one who did that, so I am not singling you out. I found the comments by several others to be unnecessarily person and rude.

I am sorry if you cannot see the difference between being a casual observer at the cinema and walking in the line of fire. There is nothing condescendingly "nicer" about it. My German teacher through school escaped with her parents by climbing over and through fences to escape Berlin and East Germany in the early sixties. The gunfire she experienced was tossing up dirt at her feet, not coming out of speakers on the wall. They ultimately ended up in the U.S., but all of that begs the question of when should people stop running away and rise up against their oppressors and retake what is theirs? Where would we be today if our founding fathers had opted for running away instead of waging the Revolutionary War?

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 10:02 PM

My elf and I are still waiting for the demise of the editors who have been deemed insulting and offensive. Are we making any progress. That was the theme of this post by the way. My elf is chasing the cat. Gotta run.

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.6 - Posts: 893)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:44 PM

A comment on censorship -- the 1st amendment is not applicable to the private parts of the country.

lodi
Lodi  (Level: 98.8 - Posts: 2144)
Sat, 29th Aug '09 11:48 PM

I'm not going to touch that, Colleen (pun intended).

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 4:50 AM

Steve, let me first respond to the second half of the above.

Of course, I can recognize the difference between being a casual observer at the cinema and walking in the line of fire.

However, that doesn't change the argument.

Sorry, when I am deprived of free speech, something as an American I have been fortunate to have all my life, I feel like I know I would feel in a totalitarian state.

Apparently you folks have difficulty reading that at our beloved Sploofus. So you mount what appears to me to be a phony argument and call me names (BTW have you disciplined Martin yet?), but that doesn't compute here.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 5:07 AM

Steve, as for the first part, I doubt we are going to agree upon this.

We began above with the accusation that I traded non-substantive barbs but you had no examples and backtracked on that.

Now you state there were "personal remarks." I'm not sure just what a personal remark is since those directed at me are never disciplined. I really try to stay away from remarks about a person. What they read, where they get their info when they are way off base, that becomes fair game, but their person, you need to produce an example. I comment upon posted material.

And you can't produce any examples and we can't discuss them IF YOU DELETE THE EVIDENCE.

It would be a good idea if you cited these examples on line as they occur (with your pink editor screen).

And it's a bad idea to make these assertions without your pink editor screen, or to shift back and forth between your player ID and your editor ID.

madamec8
Madamec8  (Level: 82.6 - Posts: 893)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 5:25 AM

"I'm not going to touch that, Colleen (pun intended)."

As was my post I thought we needed a diversion, obviously it didn't work.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 6:12 AM

Why don't you girls thumb a ride outta here and continue at "The Human Body?"

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 9:51 AM

"Girls"? "Girls"?

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 9:55 AM

It's from the Elvis movie WP, Pat.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 11:10 AM

I am glad you can recognize the different...too bad you cannot appreciate or understand them.

I am glad you can wrap yourself so warmly in the First Amendment...too bad you haven't read definitions and limitations placed on them by the U.S. Supreme Court, both Conservative and Liberal, over the years. Free speech is obvious not without rules and exceptions. It is certainly not the one way street with nothing but green lights for you that you pretend it is.

Why would you change your argument? I never expect you to change your argument. That would not be true to form.

Phony argument? That is about a shallow as a parking lot mud puddle retort. I expect more, like real substance, from a man of your learned position and education.

Discipline Martin? I think that is a job better suited to your typically elegant and suave tones and outlays of logic.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 11:24 AM

Steve, you have to know that you're not connecting here. You have no examples. You have no facts. Your assertions about my posts are the equivalent of hearsay evidence.

I certainly recognize that I am not entitled to free speech here. At the same time I can recognize - as can anyone - that the censorship I experienced yesterday is equivalent to what one experiences in a totalitarian state, in the press for example.

Of course, no one has disciplined Martin's name-calling.

Because the rules are apparently not applied equally and uniformly around here.


smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 11:51 AM

Andy, I place the censorship you experienced here yesterday on a par with teacher taking away notes in class.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 11:57 AM

Gee, I've never had a teacher take away my notes in class either. I thought students were supposed to take notes.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3779)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 12:37 PM

I am sorry, but you are booring me with this prattle and diversion. Goodbye.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 30th Aug '09 12:55 PM

Bye, Steve. You presented no facts, no examples and one bogus argument.


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