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sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:24 AM

VEILING

Didn't think there were enough controversial topics here , so
What are you're thoughts on the covering of women's bodies as a religious law?

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:30 AM

I think it is archaic and chauvinistic. How about you, also a way to keep the woman down.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:36 AM

Some say the veil protects women. Keeps men from looking at her as an "object". I think it makes them invisible in society.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:41 AM

I know in some countries the women can be in serious violation of law if they don't cover up. I wouldn't last a day there personally. I am way too rebellious and stubborn, also not into arabian or persian men.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:43 AM

I wouldn't lump them all together. Never a good idea.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.7 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 7:36 AM

And many 'Arabs' and other societies, of both sexes, feel that 'Western' women publicly flaunt their bodies.
Can't disagree with that in many instances either!
Tolerance is needed within both views and towards others' views.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 7:51 AM

Men go topless all the time. Aren't they flaunting?

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.4 - Posts: 1745)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 8:04 AM

I shouldn't say that I don't like them. I don't think I would ever have a relationship with a Muslim because of the way they view women. You asked and that is how I feel, may not be politically correct but I am allowed. Probably would not be in their country. Yes some women flaunt their sexuality and they are entitled to their religion and culture it just isn't right for me. I do respect other peoples cultures and if I was to visit their country I would adhere to appropriate attire. Geez, you can't win on here sometimes.

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 9:11 AM

Do they wear anything under those robes? Just thought I'd ask.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 5316)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 9:14 AM

I would think their black, full-cover dress would be steaming hot in an already hot country. I wouldn't last with that type of dress either - I'd probably die of heat stroke!

(or high blood pressure from the irritation of having to dress like that!)

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 9:26 AM

I think when i can walk down Tehran high street in my mini skirt and boob tube, they should be able to wander around under a blanket, not until. Covering one's face is just not done in western society, as hoodies often find out. Try walking around in a balaclava and see how popular you are. The east end of London resembles an oil slick some days. It doesn't work with me anyway, one flash of a pair of lovely almond eyes i'm away. If a woman in a burka knocks your door, answer through the letterbox, see how she likes it.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 9:40 AM

I agree Sandy! If men can go topless, women should be able to as well. Is placing a bag over your wife's head the same thing as veiling?

kimoira
Kimoira  (Level: 201.7 - Posts: 1190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 10:55 AM

Well it makes the use of sunscreen obsolete...

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 1:52 PM

Yeah Don, they wear normal clothes under those robes. As soon as they get into a "safe" place (not in public) they shed the robes and look like western women, more or less.
Scary thought Cloggs!
Felix, bet your wife puts the bag on her own head

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 2:00 PM

Shouldn't it depend on the woman..........(RUNS AWAY very quickly)

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 2:05 PM

But it doesn't. No choice. She may be fine with the veil, but if she's not...tough luck.
Oh, you were talking about Felix's wife.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 5:34 PM

Indeed, Sandy! She is well trained.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 5:53 PM

Putting a bag over head probably instinctual with you!

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:06 PM

I think veiling is a beautiful concept which can allow the imagination of a man to wander endlessly. Of course, it may seem archaic. However, if the veiling includes the whole body; I think when you think about in another vein it could discourage rapes.

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21600)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:15 PM

Kids used to "wonder" about those Nuns a bunch . Probably not any more since most have ditched the Habit

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 6:56 PM

We should do more head'n'neck veiling here in Oz. That would help prevent skin cancers, stop the skin from drying out and getting wrinkly, prevent sun-bleaching of the hair, plus add an air of mystique.....I'm all for it!!

However, I don't think it should be compulsory.

Muslim women wear the hijab, and some Christian women wear hats to church. Some Mediterranean Christian women wear a lace mantilla on their heads to church, I suppose it all depends on what you believe, and the way you were brought up.

However, we should be tolerant of each other's beliefs: no one way is "right" or "wrong".....just different.



~Bev

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.2 - Posts: 1302)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 8:51 PM

"it could discourage rapes."

1. Victims of rape are not at fault - that is an archaic, sexist, stupid idea.
2. The majority of women in Pakistani prisons are there because they were raped. But since Sharia law requires 4 male witnesses to convict, and that doesn't happen, the women are convicted of having sex outside of marriage. So I don't think veiling is doing anything to prevent rapes.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sat, 5th Sep '09 11:49 PM

Agree with you Judy. As if women must be invisible for their own protection. That's ridiculous!

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 6th Sep '09 10:46 AM

http://www.patcondell.net/

As usual Pat says speaks my thought better than i ever could.

sandracam
Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Sun, 6th Sep '09 11:32 AM

Very interesting video Cloggs. Thanks!!
Quite in your face, but much truth here.



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