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oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sat, 12th Sep '09 8:48 PM

US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CHALLENGES GLOBAL WARMING

The US Chamber of Commerce is suing the EPA over whether or not humans are contributing to climate change. Discuss.

Pro Link

http://www.uschamber.com/NR/rdonlyres/ekngxi7x62z4t4cmyi3abtysipk5a4tcnde4kbcaeqvqmb4pywfc2wq5vfyaeybgdu3hnkazghand2phuhxyyetqane/USCOCPetitionJune232009.pdf

Con link

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2009/09/07/NewMonkeyTrial/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=070909

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 21599)
Sat, 12th Sep '09 8:52 PM

Beck challenges it too. Me, never thought much about it until the push for "Green' coupled with the massive Cap and TAx

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sat, 12th Sep '09 11:57 PM

Yup, nothing concentrates the mind like having to shell out a few dollars. This should though.......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6995999.stm
.....
The most direct shipping route from Europe to Asia is fully clear of ice for the first time since records began, the European Space Agency (Esa) says.
Historically, the Northwest Passage linking the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans has been ice-bound through the year.

But the agency says ice cover has been steadily shrinking, and this summer's reduction has made the route navigable.

The findings, based on satellite images, raised concerns about the speed of global warming.


oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 13th Sep '09 12:08 AM

Yes, its great isn't it, a chance for a fine international dust-up & Canada to have oil spills on a 3rd coast. Global warming, good for commerce

foogs
Foogs  (Level: 267.4 - Posts: 848)
Sun, 13th Sep '09 12:47 AM


I'm working on a theory that humans are really parasites.

Haven't got very far. Anyone want to help? There may be a Nobel
Prize in it.

clevercloggs
Clevercloggs  (Level: 27.4 - Posts: 1246)
Sun, 13th Sep '09 1:06 AM

We have been force fed consumerism and capitalism for way too long. More, more more........now, now, now. Greedy hypocritical religious leaders are now being replaced by greedy hypocritical politicians and corporate fat cats. The few live an unsustainable life at the cost of the many. "Foreign aid" became inducements for trade agreements decades ago. A man lies to start a war and his adversaries are called "insurgents and terrorists". Yup, it's all gone pear shaped.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 13th Sep '09 2:26 AM

We are the top predator in the food chain, too bad we haven't learned not to poo in our own nest yet.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 1:55 AM

Foogs: read the section titled "success of parasites" http://www.fathom.com/feature/121772/index.html

Randy: I couldn't get the link to work. Is it just me?



smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 2:09 AM

Got it to work. Thanks for the article Randy.

foogs
Foogs  (Level: 267.4 - Posts: 848)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 3:56 AM

Damn! And I thought I had something original. Despite the
author's love of parasites, the last couple of sentences do
support my point:

"Successful parasites do a very good job of balancing--using
up their hosts and keeping them alive. It's all a question of
tuning the adaptation to your particular host. In our case, we
have only one host, so we have to be particularly careful."

Our host is dying, which means humans may soon be SOL.



oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 4:37 AM

Thanks for yours, Jeremy Interesting

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 4:39 AM

Sorry Foogs, that prize money & prestige would have been nice

fainodraino
Fainodraino  (Level: 113.0 - Posts: 240)
Mon, 14th Sep '09 9:50 AM

Boy, the idiocy is thick in here...gotta go.


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