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Luvnmexsun  (Level: 147.4 - Posts: 711)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 7:38 PM


Hello friends,

I looked up the old thread, but decided to just start a new one. Her last two days of migraines has been brutal, but finally over.

Donna went to the eye doc today...the news is good...retina is attached as it should be. She was NOT ready to be told to continue the "rest" of no reading and computer time...though she can BRIEFLY check in. (I wonder if the doc knows she doesn't do anything BRIEFLY? How would she know what that means? ). Her eye still full of floaters and shadows, but much better than before. Docs say she should have full sight again in 4 weeks.

She sends her warm wishes and thank yous to all of you. Your kindness and thoughts mean much to her!

I all are fantastic friends!


Bobolicios  (Level: 116.8 - Posts: 1745)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 7:40 PM

I have missed her a bunch, glad she is doing well and on road to recovery. Took her tournament it was awesome!

Gypsylady  (Level: 140.8 - Posts: 6036)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 8:38 PM

Thanks, Sun, for the update on Donna! Glad she is doing much better!


Asor  (Level: 153.4 - Posts: 589)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 9:09 PM

That's great news! Thanks for the update

Garrybl  (Level: 275.9 - Posts: 6605)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 9:22 PM

Great news -- hurry back, but in good time.
Festina lente. Or is it solvitur ambulando -- not in an ambulance.

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 9:56 PM

In the scheme of things 4 weeks isn't a very long time, but I'm sure she'll feel like it drags by slowly. Having fully functioning eyes at the end will be worth it.

Oogie54  (Level: 198.6 - Posts: 1120)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 10:08 PM

Good News, it's much more gooder to be outta commission a month or so and have betterest eyeballs. Be as patient as ya can Smokie, and we'll be waitin' to hear from you.

Mplaw51  (Level: 176.9 - Posts: 1582)
Tue, 22nd Sep '09 10:11 PM

Glad to hear this prognosis, thanks for the update. So sorry to hear about the migraine, glad Smoke's on the other side of it.
Miss her charm on the Salty Dog.

Tresgatos  (Level: 201.7 - Posts: 4144)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 12:22 AM

Thank you for the update, Sunny! I'm glad to hear Donna is progressing as expected. It'll be nice to have her back here at full strength. We're thinking of you, Donna!

-- Geri

Lucimoore  (Level: 180.5 - Posts: 1678)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 12:40 AM

Miss you Donna.

Dyenamite  (Level: 49.6 - Posts: 669)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 1:25 AM

Where the heck is she? I want to surprise her and just rock up and give her a hug or 10. Somebody PM me, please. Love you Donna Donut xox

Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 2:12 AM

I'm so happy to hear things are going fine. I can't wait until she comes back with her witty comments. Follow Doctor's orders Donna so we can all hear from you.
Miss you, Beverly

Leaston  (Level: 42.6 - Posts: 839)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 2:25 AM

That is such good news,thanks Sun

Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 8:23 AM

I spoke with her yesterday and she was making a lasagna to help pass time. What do you do when you can't read, or surf? Cook! And she is very good at that!

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:36 AM

I took the lasagna to the pub, and many were the nummy-nummy sounds. It was a pretty good one, if I do say so, pulled out all the stops.

Pub buddies have been great, a player from each team filling in for me each week until I can see well enough to research and write the games, and I go and play on the host’s team (Trivia Mistress's legend is secure so far ). It's been lots of fun, and a chance to get to know some of the newer players better.

Most loving thanks to every one of my dear Sploofus friends for holding me in your thoughts and prayers through this experience. I’m honored and humbled by so many caring messages and loving acts. There is truly no better medicine than the hopes and well-wishes of friends, and I in turn extend mine to members of the Sploofus family who are now facing much more threatening challenges than mine.

Special thanks to Sunny, Alice and my dear daughter-goddess for posting news and updates and relaying messages. Know that all your responses are treasured and deeply, deeply appreciated. More personal thanks to all of you to be made in good time.

Now, Clive Owen is on Regis and Kelly and I have some TV watching to do. Doctor's orders.

Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:37 AM

Monkeynips13  (Level: 21.5 - Posts: 647)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:45 AM

So glad to hear you're on the mend Donna. You've been missed around here.

Alvandy  (Level: 225.5 - Posts: 7525)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:46 AM

I commiserate with what you are experiencing. I know it well. I still have a 30% gas bubble in my left eye and it is distracting as
It appears that all is going well with your recovery and that's splendid news. Hope to see you back here more and more in the next few weeks.
Best wishes

Allena  (Level: 253.5 - Posts: 1388)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 11:11 AM

This thread is very good. I was wondering. It sounds like you have a good prognosis which is cause for celebration. Sorry about your difficulties. You are definitely missed. Now ... how do I get your lasagna recipe? When you can read, please post it. I am sure we all could improve.

Zeedee  (Level: 222.1 - Posts: 1088)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 11:14 AM

Glad to hear the good news. Thanks for the update.

Daveguth  (Level: 250.0 - Posts: 1636)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 12:01 PM

So glad you're at least to the point of checking in, Donna! Wishing you a speedy recovery so you're back kicking Sploofus butt real, real soon!

Koota  (Level: 180.6 - Posts: 2097)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 12:57 PM

I hear that lasagna improves your eyesight ....

We're looking forward to the recipe and seeing you again on Sploofus!

F5laur  (Level: 31.1 - Posts: 823)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 1:07 PM

That is wonderful news. Thank You for some good news!

Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 4:38 PM

I'm glad to hear you are on the mend, Donna.......but please don't rush it! Sure, we miss you, but we want you back completely healed and sassy!!



Bobolicios  (Level: 116.8 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 5:03 PM

Hip Hip Hurah for Smoke!!!! I want that lasagna recipe woman!

Headylamar  (Level: 149.5 - Posts: 740)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 5:16 PM

I would probably rather eat lasagna that anything else in the whole wide world!!! Seriously.... Got any leftovers?

Hope you're soon seeing better than 20/20 and can trivia to your heart's content!!!

Love ya kiddo!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 8:17 PM

Hey Donna - everyone is telling you to follow the doc's instructions. Please take care - these are the only eyes you have and they need to do you proud for many years to come.

I write because I see you just went up 14 positions on the leaderboard! You're not supposed to be on the computer!!!!

Baby those baby....blues? greens? browns? hazels?

Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:11 PM

She probably won a challenge she had a week ago. lol

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:27 PM

Couple of 'em. And a happy few coincidences of birthday tokens and vocab questions.

In mere seconds. With one eye tied behind my back.

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:30 PM

...and I believe they're almost exactly the color of this post.

Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 9:45 PM

Yes they are.

Kaufman  (Level: 253.8 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 23rd Sep '09 10:56 PM

My money's on bloodshot with little white 14s.

Jeannette  (Level: 109.5 - Posts: 1736)
Thu, 24th Sep '09 1:54 AM

good to hear your on the road to recovery see you soon x j

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 2:51 AM

How My Left Eye Ate September - Part One: The Ophthalmologist

A little over a month ago for no reason I can tell, no bumps on the head or anything, I had a sudden increase in the number of “floaters” in my left eye (my good, 20/20 eye, of course), a swarm of them, and when it didn’t return to normal in a few days it began to be a nuisance and a concern. People look at you funny when you swat at bugs that aren’t there; gets hard to maintain concentration, drove me crazy trying to read.

I have to admit, I took my eyes for granted. My eyeglass prescription hadn’t changed since my twenties, when I got my first pair after barely failing the eye test for my driver’s license, and I only wore them to drive, or for movies and ball games and such.. I just needed a little help with detail at a distance, mostly at night. Small print didn’t get fuzzy till my fifties, and the weakest drug store readers have always been enough, so even into my sixties I've only needed slight correction for far away and up close and otherwise didn't wear glasses at all. I felt lucky to dodge the bifocals, good vision runs in the family, but I didn’t really appreciate the blessing of healthy eyes.

When I go to be examined, the ophthalmologist says those three now-too-familiar words, “natural aging process.” Posterior vitreal detachment (PVD), I think it is; perfectly normal and irreversible, she said I’d get used to it and my brain would learn to ignore the floaters, my vision was remarkably good (yay!), no tear in the retina (YAY!). Pay no attention to the lightning off to the left, that’s the optic nerve being overstimulated by the pulling of the vitreal fibers, that should calm down when the detachment is complete and some of the floaters will settle. Call if anything changes, come back next month.

Sunday before the Tuesday I was to go back, John was away for a long weekend of drag racing in South Carolina, and I was writing the last question of a quiz I’ve been trying to write since I was “20” when suddenly, somewhere between the keyboard and the screen, loops of lumpy dark yarn began descending from the top of the left field of vision. Within minutes, most of the field was obscured, and constantly in dizzying motion, pulling at the right eye trying to compensate and focus. It struck fear in my heart, I don't mind saying, and I was shocked when I covered my right eye and found that I was essentially blind in the left, nothing but dark swirls and murky moving blobs of colored gloom – no detail whatsoever.

Monday AM, back to the ophth. And NOW there’s a tear in the retina.

“Wow, that’s lot of blood in there.”

Dammit. I KNEW it looked red in the lights but hadn't let myself think the word.

Next - Part Two: The Retinologist

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 6:17 AM

"Loops of lumpy dark yarn descended." Yikes, I'm afraid to read part 2. part one was horrifying. Really!
Welcome back Donna!

Papajensai  (Level: 189.7 - Posts: 1025)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 8:31 AM

"It looks like a curtain coming down." That's the classic description of what a detached retina looks like to the detachee. Fascinating to hear your story, Donna, especially since it sounds like you're heading for a happy ending. So glad you and Al are doing well. Just cause you got two of 'em don't mean one's a spare!

Garrybl  (Level: 275.9 - Posts: 6605)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 9:34 AM

R rated story...can't wait for parts II and III


Lucimoore  (Level: 180.5 - Posts: 1678)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 12:16 PM

Holy Shih tzu Donna, for someone who deals with floaters on a daily basis and flashing colored lights off to the side on occasion, you still make me cringe. I just had two eye exams within six months checking on a condition that is hereditary but this still scares the heck out me. Take care of yourself and don't overdo it.

Bobolicios  (Level: 116.8 - Posts: 1745)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 4:58 PM

Scares me too. I went for eye exam not too long ago. I am over 40 and need just readers, I haven't gotten bivocals which I should probably get. My eye exam was the lions club screening not a real eye doctor. The guy said I had pressure behind my eye, and should go to eye doctor and I haven't been. This is making me realize maybe I should go. I am glad you are back, and we all missed you take it easy though tiger. Love Bobo

Collioure  (Level: 102.3 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 5:06 PM

Glad that you a&re well enough to Sploofus, but wish you would follow doctor's orders, Donna.

Katy, carrot lasagna is good for your eyes.

Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 8:13 PM

Donna, that's a compelling and well-written story, for sure! Hope you composed it in your head and dictated it to someone else to type. Please take care of yourself! Know you're climbing the walls right now, but please! -- Follow those doctors' orders! It's much more important to take it easy right now.

Both my father and uncle had detached retinas. They're both perfectly healed now -- because they did what the doctors told them to do. Please do the same! This momentary (in the circle of life) sentence of inactivity is necessary in order for you to be fully productive in the future. Just do it!

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 9:57 PM

Thanks for the concern, guys, really appreciate it, but I am following doctor's orders, honest. Part One took most of three days to write, typing in a gigantic Arial Word font a few minutes at a time. I'm not overdoing.

Doctor cleared me for reading as best I can in moderation but mostly it's too frustrating; one sudoku is exhausting and I make more mistakes. I've got a 10-minute kitchen timer to control computer time. The monitor is set up on the windowsill of the sunroom next to the daybed where I'm propped on pillows dividing my attention with the TV and an occasional tickle-and-pet session with Buster.

I'm to avoid strain, lifting more than a milk jug, bowing my head to look downward for more than a moment, bending forward from the waist or bending to pick things off the floor. I'm still sleeping on three pillows and icing the eye every two hours. I don't do anything that makes me feel pressure or pain in it.

Trust me, I'm taking care of myself (with John's help) and not overdoing. I'm not taking anything for granted anymore.

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 10:01 PM

Glad you are, cause you know there's lots of mother hens out here.

Sandracam  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 4190)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 10:18 PM


Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 10:31 PM

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Fri, 25th Sep '09 10:32 PM

Salzypat  (Level: 154.3 - Posts: 5295)
Sat, 26th Sep '09 1:20 AM

Donna, your post was downright frightening. I can only imagine how frightened you were. I'm glad you're following doctor's orders.

Bobo, I hope that by now you have that appointment to see an opthamologist, or at least an optomitrist to check out that pressure. It may be nothing, but it could be a number of things in the beginning stages. I know it's scary, but....

I have my eyes checked thoroughly every year, even though the past several years I've had no change in my eyes or my prescription for glasses. I still get the checkups and pay for the additional testing that takes photos of the eye deep inside, even though insurance doesn't cover it. My brother has macular degeneration and will eventually lose his eyesight, except for his peripheral vision.

I have had those flashing lights, but not since I quit working at a stressful job and staring at a computer screen 15 hours a day.

Donna, I think your condition and Al's has made everyone on SD more aware of their eyes and to appreciate good eyesight. I suspect there will be more heading off to get their eyes checked because of your experiences. Thank you both for being so open and sharing with all of this.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sat, 26th Sep '09 1:39 AM

Cripes...this is what happens when I avoid this dumbass forum.

How you be Smokey?

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 2:35 AM

Part Two: The Retinologist

So the ophthalmologist says, “this is not something I can treat, you’ll need to see a retinologist,” thereby teaching me a new word for something I didn’t even know existed.

“Do I need a referral? Do you recommend one?”

“Oh, it’s already set up, go right over, they’re waiting for you.”

Things went fast when I got there and it’s kind of a blur (really), but the upshot was, he said the PVD had yanked up a corner of the retina and there was bleeding behind it. He said he could schedule me for surgery, remove the blood and replace it with sterile clear solution, and repair the retina - couple-three weeks of misery and discomfort and my vision should be restored, albeit with an unpredictable number of floaters to be lived with. The dratted “natural aging process” will not be denied.

"The second option is to 'tack' the retina here in the office right now. I can do it in ten minutes.” he says, and then we wait to see if some of my body’s other natural processes not specifically devoted to aging will get to work and reabsorb the blood, slowly clearing my vision.

“How slowly?”

“We’ll take it month to month.”

He says there should be noticeable improvement in a week; 2 to 3 months I could be back to normal. So I say, “do what you’d want for your eye.” He says this procedure has a high rate of success and we can still do surgery later if this doesn’t work, but this is less intrusive and he thinks I’m a good candidate because otherwise (ray of sunshine coming), my eyes are in great shape for my age. Bwahaahaa!


The nurse preps me, dilates the pupil, globs my eye full of anesthetic solution and leaves me alone in the dark to wait for the dilation to complete and things to go numb. My eye feels wrapped in plastic. Nurse is soon back and he puts a springy thingy in my eye to hold the lids open and I suddenly think of Alex DeLarge:

The nurse clicks on an incredibly bright rectangle of light that nearly fills my left field of vision; I see nothing on the right, I may have closed it. Everything is one large white emerald-cut sun. I hear machinery being powered up and the rubbery snap of gloves. The doctor is somewhere behind me, and says in a soothing voice, “you’re going to feel some pressure and something like an ice cream headache for a few seconds, and then it will fade. This will happen three times and we’ll be done.”

The procedure is called cryoretinopexy; it uses an ice cold probe on the sclera (outer part of the white of the eye - in my case, far over on the left side so that it is normally hidden by my eyelids). This extreme cold is somehow magically beamed to the tear in the retina deep inside the eye, where it causes scar tissue to form which seals the tear. It happened just as he said, was sort of like ice cream brain freeze – in your eyeball – and just when I was about to have to groan, it began to fade. A pause and the machine whines and the ache comes again. And again.

"Looks good," he says, "the tear is sealed. I want you to take it easy, keep the bandage clean and dry, ice packs for pain and swelling," and he gives me the other instructions listed in the post above.

Next - Part 3: Post-op

Salzypat  (Level: 154.3 - Posts: 5295)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 8:22 AM

Learned a new word today, too. Never had heard of a retinologist.

You're giving us all a valuable education, Smoke, by your thorough description of what happened.

Alvandy  (Level: 225.5 - Posts: 7525)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 9:42 AM

I am definitely reading this with maximum attention. Compelling .

Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 12:54 PM

Any of it sound familiar, Al?

Bobolicios  (Level: 116.8 - Posts: 1745)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 1:07 PM

I am glad you can be so objective because it is killing me I am like blinkiing my eyes and freaking out for you. But you seem to be handling it very well, how were you in labor. Describe that one for us, that would be a hoot. Especially since the product of that is alive and well on sploofus!

F5laur  (Level: 31.1 - Posts: 823)
Tue, 29th Sep '09 4:08 PM

Dear Donna,
I thank God that your retina problem can be repaired and that you don't have Macular Degeneration. When I started reading the posts and saw the word retina, my heart just about dropped down to my feet. But I read further and see that what you have is repairable. Bless your heart for tolerating all the procedures. Tony, my fiance of six years(LOL) was struck in both his eyes with wet macular degeneration. When this first started, he had needles of Avastin put in his eyes. (YIKES) but this awful procedure did not work. Over a period of 2 years, he has become almost totally blind. It is very sad to see someone go throught this.
I just want you to know how very happy I am for you that you are getting better. I wish you a complete recovery and am very proud to see that you are listening to the doctors advise. I know that it is difficult to be patient in getting better. You are an inspiration with your patience to me.
With good thoughts and prayers,

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