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cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 5:43 AM

BRITISH DOG OWNERS BEWARE OF THE LAW !

I am so angry and sorry to whinge but if i don't get this off my chest i'm gonna explode! Last night a teenage boy broke into my back garden and attempted to steal items from my shed. Unfortunately for him my 1 year old, 6 stone, German shepherd pup, Sasha was in the garden and she bit him. I have a warning on my back gate. Which he obviously didn't heed. The police were more interested in what my dog had done than what the boy had done. Apparently i can be sued or ordered to have my dog destroyed, there's no way i'll do that! Silly me i thought the law was here to protect us.

asdibbens
Asdibbens  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 423)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:10 AM

That is truly awful. I hope the situation turns out alright for you and Sasha. Please let us know.

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:25 AM

Did they have the boy in custody?

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:44 AM

Yes after they took him to the hospital for a tetanus jab. He was climbing back over my 7 foot high fence and Sasha grabbed him by the ankle and held him, the fact he repeatedly kicked her until i called her off didn't seem important. Police more interested in what control i have over such a large dog. Sasha was trained by an ex police dog handler. She responds to one word commands, she won't attack but will hold someone until myself or my husband arrives. She is huge but at one year old shes only a puppy.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:46 AM

That's ridiculous. A dog biting someone during the commission of a crime should be rewarded, not punished. What would they have done if you had went out there on conked him with a ball bat or club. It one one thing for a dog to bite a person without provocation, or a kid playing nearby. This dog was conceptually defending his territory in the same way I should suspect you would defend it. They should put the idiot who thought this was a good interpretation of law to sleep. I would take it to the newspapers if they say any more.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.7 - Posts: 2770)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:48 AM

That's the way the UK legal system is xxxxxx going these days.
Get a solicitor to advise you, fast.
If it appears you might get the worst of it, (but don't really stir it unless you realise you need to), prime the local press/radio.
People power will probably be behind you.
Try and make it as embarrassing as possible for the police to even proceed.


cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:51 AM

If i had clonked him with a baseball bat etc, I'd be charged with using unreasonable force. I've got to wait until monday to see if any action will be taken against me or Sasha. It's gonna be a long weekend!

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 9:57 AM

Tahnks for all your advice and support. Been to solicitors this morning. He thinks it'll be ok because i had beware of the dog sign up,Sasha held him rather than attacked him also i was home alone with my 8 year old daugther. Ionly opened the door to let the cat in or the boy would have got away without me knowing he'd been there.

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 12:25 PM

What kind of control? A seven foot fence seems pretty obvious to me! I hope seeing the solicitor reassured you. Give Sasha an extra biscuit!

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Fri, 7th Jul '06 1:23 PM

She's had lots of love and treats as usual,a long walk now She's lying by my feet as usual. My solicitor says the other thing in my favour her breed is not on the list of dangerous dogs. She is big and no doubt could do damage if not ocontrolled. But she's a big softy, she'd lick you to death! She's a people person. Thanx again for all your kindness.
Lynette

geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 1521)
Sat, 8th Jul '06 6:17 PM

Sounds like the American legal system...more interested in the rights of the criminal. We were going to get a German Shepherd but our insurance has informed us that, if the dog bites anyone, they won't pay! All the dogs I like are on their hit list, including Bernese Mtn. dog, so it's back to the lovable Golden Retriever, who would show the burglar where the silver is! Good luck and keep us posted!


geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 1521)
Sat, 8th Jul '06 6:21 PM

Oh, and by the way...Surreyman's idea is great.
Start babbling to the press if all else fails...Britain is a animal-loving country...don't you save foxes, frogs and hedgehohgs? Sasha who was only trying to protect you.

  (Level: . - Posts: 56)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 6:42 AM   [ edit ]

Yes we are a nation of animal lovers, we do save foxes etc. I have insurance for Sasha,upto 3 million pounds if she bites someone. Don't particularly want to use it though. Otherwise crime certainly does pay! This lad is a one boy crime wave. Yesterday his mother turned up at my house gave me heaps of verbal abuse about my dangerous dog. No wonder her son behaves like he does. I've got better control over my dog than she'll ever have over her son. Incidently the boy had no stitches though Sasha did cause bruising and a graze to his leg. I have to go to the police station at 9am tomorrow to see whats been decided. I'll be taking my solicitor with me and Sasha will be safely left with one of my family just incase they have an order to destroy or detain her. After all if they can't find her they can't take her. I won't give in without a fight she's one of my family too. She tried to protect us now we'll protect her. I've received a lot of support within my village and thankyou for all your support too.
Lynette x

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 6:47 AM   [ edit ]

Don't know why but my user name didn't appear for the above message. Lots of wags and licks from Sasha too.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 7:09 AM   [ edit ]

Laws are so crazy these days....it seems the criminal has more rights'n the victim!
The way I see it, you have done everything right: You have a high fence with a warning sign, and Sasha was just protecting her territory and YOU.
This would-be thief surrendered all his rights when he invaded YOUR place (and Sasha's)!
I hope justice and commonsense brings a satisfactory outcome!

BTW, I am glad you save foxes!

~Bev

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.7 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 12:45 PM   [ edit ]

Tell the police of the mother's verbal abuse too. Won't do you any harm, maybe she could be counter-charged? Presumably your solicitor's insisting that the boy be charged?

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 2:15 PM   [ edit ]

Yes i called the police, she was threatening all sorts, her language was foul. Kept Sasha out of the way, she would only have tried to protect me again. Can't give them anymore ammunition to fire. It was suggested to me that i get charges dropped against the boy, then no further action will be taken over Sasha. Well theres no way i'm doing that. He's the criminal not me. I'll never work out the law, it's a joke.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Sun, 9th Jul '06 2:50 PM   [ edit ]

I would tape the conversations. Be polite. Don't confront. Just let her ramble. After she gets going, tell her you are going to tape it. She will probably curse you and keep ranting. If she does, then you have a new handful of ammo.

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 6:25 AM   [ edit ]

Hello all. Just got home from police station. No action to be taken against myself or Sasha. Though they were going to give me a caution, which would remain on record, meaning i would have to give up my job as i work with mentally and physically disabled children and young adults. So i refused and suggested they take me to court because i know the criminal prosecution service would not prosecute as they couldn't win. I took surreymans advice and took both my solicitor and my brothers friend who writes for the local paper with me. I also lodged a complaint with the police complaints authority. So now i'm waiting for my brother to bring Sasha home from the beach because she stayed with him last night. Thanx again for all your support and best wishes and hopefully this will be an end to the matter.
Best Wishes to all.
Lynette and Sasha x

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 7:02 AM   [ edit ]

Please keep us posted on the outcome. You have right on your side, let's hope that justice and commonsense prevails!
~~A few prayers heading upwards might help too!
Cheers,
Bev

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 7:35 AM   [ edit ]

Thanks Bev. I'll let you know of any developments. Sashas curled up with one of my cats snoring away, oblivious to it all. She's one soppy pup!
Thanx again
Lynette x

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 10:14 AM   [ edit ]

When this is all wrapped up...happily, I hope. You should still do a newspaper story on the whole affair. Maybe it could spur action to change some of these stupid laws.

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 12:12 PM   [ edit ]

Good for you for lodging a complaint!

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2103)
Mon, 10th Jul '06 3:45 PM   [ edit ]

Lynette ... any news?
Kate


cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 4:50 AM   [ edit ]

Hi. Still waitng to hear about my complaint can take up to 14 days. The boy has been charged, broke into 4 other properties before he did mine, probably only get community service as he's 15. I know he's been trying to see if he can sue me for his distress and injury privately, laughable isn't it. But the C.P.S won't touch it. I've also had a written apology from his mother for her abuse. The main thing is Sasha is under NO threat at all. That was my only concern. These days the police can't afford any more bad press so i imagine they won't want me kicking up a fuss. Which i'm capable of doing.
Thanx for asking Kate.
Take Care
Lynette

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.7 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 5:54 AM   [ edit ]

Good, sounds like all's OK.
But why you should have been put through all this ......................?

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.7 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 5:57 AM   [ edit ]

Just a final thought, from a friend's experience many moons ago - ensure the police confirm in writing that you have no adverse record WHATSOEVER. If the police have recorded a possible action against you, have them acknowledge in writing that it was groundless. Just for the sake of all sorts of future 'character search' possibilities. I'm sure your solicitor can advise.

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 6:12 AM   [ edit ]

Don't know why myself, it wasn't like it was an unprovoked attack in the street.I have to have 100% control of Sasha as i have lots of young children visiting my home, the joys of having 8 siblings, 36 nieces and nephews, 12 great nieces and nephews, not to mention my own kids, friends kids and my kids friends. I wouldn't risk anyone.According to the law because the boy made a complaint they had to go through their procedures.Will get my solicitor to check the record thing out, thanx. Can't afford to lose my job now i've got these legal bills.
Lynette

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 7:02 AM   [ edit ]

Wow, that's a bunch of folks visiting your home! But that in itself serves as a testimony to Sasha's disposition. She would HAVE to be placid with all those li'l kids.
Keep us posted on all developments, please?
Best wishes,
Bev

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 7:13 AM   [ edit ]

Hi Bev. She loves kids (couldn't eat a whole one though!) Only joking. You should see her mothering my 4 cats, its hilarious. They are Poppy 12, Ziggy 10, Tigger 8 and G.W. 7. Not exactly kittens and not very amused by her constant grooming and fussing. Major drawback is Sasha thinks she can curl up on my lap just like the cats, 6 stone of German Shepherd makes very dead legs! Oh well at least she's only got another 6 months of growth left. Thinking about buying her a saddle!
Lynette

missgeorge
Missgeorge  (Level: 63.0 - Posts: 388)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 7:44 AM   [ edit ]

I'm glad everything seems to be working out for you. I had a dog named Bonnie, and she loved to groom my cats.

cymru
Cymru  (Level: 73.5 - Posts: 108)
Tue, 11th Jul '06 8:33 AM   [ edit ]

Thanx missgeorge. Our animals sure are odd creatures but i wouldn't be without mine.
Lynette


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