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kevingarnett
Kevingarnett  (Level: 65.0 - Posts: 7)
Mon, 24th Jul '06 6:17 PM

NO NASCAR

NASCAR Isn't a sport!!!

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Mon, 24th Jul '06 6:20 PM

NASCAR is exactly a sport...Perform or go home with nothing. Basketball and a few other games where you get millions whether you produce or not are no longer sports, they are, like Pro wrestling, entertainment.

kevingarnett
Kevingarnett  (Level: 65.0 - Posts: 7)
Tue, 25th Jul '06 1:39 PM

A Sport is where you use physical activity like moving around running anything, NASCAR is just what you said... entertainment not sport.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Tue, 25th Jul '06 2:00 PM

Apparently you have never driven a race car. It is extremely physical and mentally challenging. The average driver will lose 5 to 10 pounds during a race, unlike many "sports" where much of the time is spent standing or even sitting. And there are no half time breaks or rests with a sub if you get tired.

sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.6 - Posts: 337)
Tue, 25th Jul '06 2:38 PM

How about the hot dog eating contest?

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Tue, 25th Jul '06 3:28 PM

Those folks are wienies...lol. No, really, I think the word is quite broad and open to a lot of interpretations. By the time you get through hunting and fishing, bowling and golf, racing of all types, pro-ball, and about 93 other things, the only conclusion I can reach is pro-wrestling quit being a sport when they went to court and won their case for not needing a doctor at their events...as no one was going to really get hurt...except in the rarest instances.

kevingarnett
Kevingarnett  (Level: 65.0 - Posts: 7)
Tue, 25th Jul '06 5:24 PM

I just don't think that it is that physical because you are just sitting in a car, it is a mental game but so is every other sport, I understand where you are coming from but we just have different opinions I guess.

rockiton55
Rockiton55  (Level: 9.6 - Posts: 28)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 10:14 AM

I am a motorcycling fan! Now that is a sport, 200mph with the width of a cigarette paper between the competitors. It requires top physical fitness and certainly acute reflexes. I also like most other sports but it is annoying when pastimes like darts, pool, snooker and dancing are referred to as sports. What next, dominos?

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 10:54 AM

People who have never driven a race car can't understand the physical side of it, especially at the pro level. Consider baseball, you sit half the game, except to bat. You stand much of the time, unless the ball is hit and involves you. Basketball, Hockey, football and others have time outs, end of period breaks, substitutes, free throws in b-ball, line changes in hockey, offense/defense in football. When a Nextel/Busch driver takes the green, he is strapped in racing with no breaks to mention but 15 second pit stops. Other than that, he is going flat out, and even during the yellow flag they may be doing 100mph. The temperature inside the car is like a furnace. And the requirement of 100% for 2, 3, 4 hours is very draining both mentally and physically.

Motorcyle racing is similar. I marshalled and ran at a roadracing course for 3 seasons. Top speeds were 140-150mph. If you lost focus for a second your were gobbling dirt and grass. I picked you countless bikes and riders...with the worst injury being a broken finger...thankfully. I never went down, but I did go into the grass a couple times. It was, shall we say, exhilarating to be bouncing like motocrosser on a 900 Ducati. At the end of a day I was a physically whipped as if I had ran a marathon.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 12:52 PM

Well, my dictionary includes definitions for sports like "recreation", "jolly, extravagant life", "to play or frolic", with synonyms listed like: frolic, lark, rollick, skylark, disport, cavort, gambol, frisk, romp, run around, lark about

So I don't think we should limit our sense of what constitutes a competitive sport to "Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs". It's limiting.

And, Kevingarnett, if NASCAR isn't a physical activity, why do they wear helmets?

How about this as a definition, if you can buy the outfit or the gear at a sporting goods store, then it's a sport



kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 2:07 PM

How about this? If you enjoy watching it, who cares what its called? And if you don't enjoy watching it, who cares what it's called?

twinboymom2001
Twinboymom2001  (Level: 67.0 - Posts: 197)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 7:19 PM

NASCAR is a sport...Did anyone see the CNN special that Dr. Gupta did on NASCAR drivers? They actually measured metabolic rates and vitals. Drivers core temps will reach 100 degrees, their heart rates in the 140-150's and most are dehydrated and will have electrolyte inbalances if they don't stay hydrated during the race. It is a demanding sport....now golf on the other hand....

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 478)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 7:21 PM

Alright, I give in - what's NASCAR?

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 8:25 PM

I'm with you Kaufman. Why are we having this conversation anyway?



bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Wed, 26th Jul '06 11:06 PM

5-10 pounds lost during a race? Heck, I don't care what it is - I want in!!

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 7:50 AM

Anyone who doubts that NASCAR is a sport is grievously underinformed. I prescribe one trip to the Richard Petty Ride-Along Experience.

Maybe it's not a sport. Maybe it's a religion. It's what a mighty lot of people do faithfully every Sunday.

phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 2:56 PM

So could ballet be considered a sport?

Or Opera?

Both are just as physically demanding...

Just a thought

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 3:58 PM

Phytzy, I think you are on to something!

I looked up Olympic Sports, and Water Ballet... no, no, wait, the Olympic Committee calls it Synchronized Swimming....is a sport!

We could ask them to add classical ballet, and call it Synchronized Floor Gymnastics.

Opera would probably have to fall under gymnastics, too. Maybe Voice Gymnastics. It could have Compulsory Voice Exercises and then Freestyle.

It all fits!

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 6:13 PM

There's a lot of competition there too; not in the finals (performances) but definitely in the preliminaries (auditions)!

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 10:17 PM

Phitz, I think the determining factor is competition for score. I'm fine with ballet being considered a sport. After all, racing is an art!

Maybe we should just enjoy what we enjoy, call it what you will.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 27th Jul '06 10:20 PM

Oh, and I can't really recall the last time anyone was killed by the physical demands of dancing ballet or singing opera. Just a thought.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Fri, 28th Jul '06 6:17 AM

I heard something about high suicide rates in men and attending ballets and opera...read it somewhere.

rockiton55
Rockiton55  (Level: 9.6 - Posts: 28)
Fri, 28th Jul '06 8:45 AM

Nascar is motor racing berylm.

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Fri, 28th Jul '06 1:12 PM

"Just sitting in a car." As others have said, go try it and you'll see! Just being a passenger on a demo ride is tiring, and those usually last just a few laps. Try driving a whole race (no, I'm not a racecar driver, but I've done a few 'see what your car can do'-type days at the track for the fun of it). Anyway, it's a blast...and definitely physically demanding. And Indy cars....? Fuggedaboudit!

Now, when they start calling poker a sport and start referring to the players as athletes (I've seen some WPT and WSOP events on TV where the announcers made it seem like they were announcing a boxing match), I may have to balk. And I do play poker.

Will


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