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summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 5:55 PM

TIGER SAYS HIS WIFE WENT "GHETTO" ON HIM...GEEZ, WHAT A GUY! :(

Wow...always polite, totally private about his personal life...the loving son, the loving father, the loving husband? Frankly, I am shocked Tiger Woods made this statement!

Reports say scratches came from wife Elin, not the accident.

It was reported in Friday's breaking news that Tiger Woods had been in a single-car accident after an altercation with his wife Elin. Early reports suggested that Elin had heard the wreck take place at 2:20 a.m. outside their home in ritzy Windermere, Florida and subsequently came to rescue Tiger from the vehicle using a golf club. A more recent report says that a rescue may not have been the original purpose for the club...

Apparently Woods and his wife Elin Nordegren were fighting over an affair that Woods allegedly has been having with actress Rachel Uchitel when he took off in his Cadillac Escalade and hit a fire hydrant and a tree. Authorities revealed on Saturday that the facial lacerations Woods was thought to have received in the accident actually came from Elin when she clawed his face before he climbed in his vehicle. A witness has suggested that she came after him to attack him with a golf club, and that's why he took off in his car.

The whole thing may sound too uber-dramatic to actually involve a figure as upstanding as Tiger Woods. According to TMZ, on Sunday a friend of Woods confirmed him as saying that Elin had "gone ghetto" on him and that he intended to get her the "Kobe special," -- "a house on a finger," a la Kobe Bryant after the 2003 sexual assault allegation that almost broke up his marriage.

Tiger Woods reportedly has slammed the door in the face of police questioners three times since Friday morning's car wreck. He's also released a statement demanding privacy and insisting that his wife acted courageously in the incident



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 6:10 PM

I've been hearing people say "it's a private matter, let them work it out" but what would they be saying if she were the one lying bloodied in th e street? These people have small children; if there's violence it needs to be looked at and dealt with.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 6:11 PM

I knew Tiger was a little too good to be true, ya know?



jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 7:00 PM

I was wondering if the reason he hit the fire hydrant was that he was trying not to run over her while she was trying to stop him by hitting his window(s) with the golf club.


donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 7:07 PM

Any person that uses his/her fame to push a personal cause or peddle Buicks, Gatorade or golf balls, and makes a fortune at it doesn't get the priveledge of a "private" life as you or I know it. Reminds me of the Princess DI fiasco where she would notify the Paparazzi when she wanted to publicize herself and whine like a baby when they caught her acting like a bimbo.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.8 - Posts: 1745)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 7:09 PM

They definitely had a domestic dispute and are trying to hush it up. You can go go to jail for that kind of domestic dispute, plus it has been circulating that he was on prescription pain killers which is driving under the influence. I don't know that it is really a FHP emergency as it was not on the open road. They just probably need answers, and police dept. are not exempt from wanting publicity. I personally want the whole thing to go away, and maybe his wife needs to get some help. But I could care less don't really like Tiger he thinks he is way to good and don't care for golf. I also am not a celebrity hound who needs to know all the deep dark secrets, maybe he is a cross dresser who cares?

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 7:56 PM

Of course the primary focus is on protecting their privacy, but perhaps a passing thought or two for multimillions in product endorsements?

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.8 - Posts: 1745)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 8:17 PM

Yep you are right Donna, he is a regular corporation, and millions are at stake I hope they patch it up. They have two small children to think about.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 105.1 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 8:19 PM

Hey, Al

Rachel Uchitel looks pretty hot, wouldn't you say?

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1582)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 11:07 PM

It's not clear whether Tiger Woods is protecting his privacy or covering up the truth of the matter, he's probably doing both. It appears fishy since he's not forthcoming to the FHP. If there was any DV, he would have to press charges if he were the victim. I don't see that happening for about a million reasons, not the least of which is the perception of it being "unmanly". We can speculate all we want, he's not going to play true confession in the same manner as David Letterman... and that's if the story in the National Enquirer is true. I'm not being naive just saying that paper is a rag. It will be a shame if public outcry forces him to explain himself. It's really none of our business.



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Mon, 30th Nov '09 11:17 PM

Would you still say it was nobody's business if she were the one with the bloody face?

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1582)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 6:36 AM

Smoke, she's not the one with the bloody face. DV is wrong and there's nothing that can be said to make it acceptable at any time. If Tiger Woods chooses not to share it publicly, how can we make him do so? I'm hopeful this incident is isolated. It looks like the FHP's hands are tied in questioning him since he has to report the motor vehicle accident only. He seems to be staying out of the limelight until his face heals so we'll never know. It looks like he's protecting his wife. Double standards occur in the male/female arena as far as domestic violence is concerned. You still need someone to say they're a victim. If they came forward as a couple, it might serve an excellent public service to many. It will never happen.



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 7:12 AM

I know she's not. That was the point of my hypothetical question. It is a double standard, and it shouldn't be. Many men are doubly trapped by domestic violence precisely because of false standards and perceptions of "manliness" and the misplaced impulse to protect the abuser. Even if he done her wrong, which I don't doubt for an instant, it doesn't justify violence. Explain, maybe, but not justify.

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 7:20 AM

Okay, Tiger Woods has accepted full responsibility for the car accident but said he wanted to keep the details surrounding the incident private. He is quoted as saying, "This situation is my fault and it's obviously embarrassing to my family and me."

Keep the details private? We all know the media will never stand for that! It's one thing to relentlessly pursue Tiger Woods for details, but questioning the character of his wife Elin has gotten crazier than crazy. "Who is Elin Nordegren", "Why don't we know the real Elin Nordegren", "Why has Elin Nordegran stayed out of the public eye?" 4COL!


Tiger's personal website is (http://web.tigerwoods.com).


bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.8 - Posts: 1745)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 3:23 PM

I am not necessarily taking any side, but really is the need for the public to know greater than their need for privacy. Maybe they had a heated argument, but thus far they have been a happily married couple. I don't see Tiger Woods becoming some kind of victim letting his wife abuse him. They just don't fit the profile, it could also be that his face went forward into steering wheel when he backed into tree. I also read somewhere that he was on prescription pain killers, hey all of this is speculation. I know from experience that you don't want the police in your life for domestic violence unless you want someone to go to jail. If it was an isolated incident and they can work it out privately more power to them. It won't help their situation for DV to be made public or for the police to get involved in their life. Quite frankly it is none of our frigging business. I am not a police person for very good reasons they ususally don't help in these situations they exacerbate the problem.

bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.8 - Posts: 1745)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 6:19 PM

It is just as I said on earlier post used to live in Florida, and DV there someone goes to jail regardless if you want to press charges or not. Don't know if she did just saying that Tiger insisted she was not responsible for good reason.

uturntama
Uturntama  (Level: 51.0 - Posts: 179)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 9:56 PM

I tell you the media and the public feast on this kind of stuff. How come good news doesn't make the headlines like bad does? I am so sick of hearing about Tiger and his alleged affair, what happened, what didn't....let the guy live. We are all imperfect people.

asor
Asor  (Level: 156.0 - Posts: 589)
Tue, 1st Dec '09 10:34 PM

Speak for yourself, UT!



bobolicios
Bobolicios  (Level: 118.8 - Posts: 1745)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 12:08 AM

I agree with Tama, judge not lest ye be judged. Besides who cares he is about the most boring athlete ever so leave him alone.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 12:54 AM

Maybe they both indulged in a little DV, and don't want to both go to jail.
If that happened, where would the children be????
I thought I heard his wife was trying to help him when the authorities
arrived????
Is that called MakeUp Foreplay????

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 7:01 AM

Oh no, Bobo! Walking on thin ice. Ahem, "most boring athlete ever"...no way, Jose! I enjoy Tiger Woods; he's the only reason I watch the game and have enjoyed watching him for years. Tiger has been an inspiration and stellar role model for years for youngsters who are learning the game of golf and for the thousands of kids who attend his "golf camps" as well. Certainly, as a family man with young children, Tiger is filled with ADDITIONAL angst as to how his young protogees may now view him.

At this point, it is all conjecture and I agree, the press needs to let this one go! 4COL, allow Tiger and Elin to go about healing and repairing their marriage. Call me naive, but the whole idea of this heretofore "squeaky-clean" athlete, "screwing" around with anyone, let alone Rachael Uchitel is, in my eyes, outlandish. What transpired in the Woods' home that night and/or what caused the situation to escalate to such proportions, may remain a mystery, and as far as I'm concerned, that is just fine!

mickeym
Mickeym  (Level: 88.2 - Posts: 1803)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 7:30 AM

Maureen, this is not about TW specifically, but about your comment on one of them having to press charges in a domestic violence case. This is NOT the case in New York, where the police can initiate the charges in DV without the victim. Don't know about other states. Just so you know, Ann

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 1:04 PM

OMG.....NAVIETY PERSONIFIED...I, FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE...HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY...EXCEPT TO ELIN.

No doubt you were aware of his mulitple long term afffairs; you have kept up a good front for years. I wondered why the Press made mention of him leaving the tournament in Shanghai five days before the Melbourne tournament; you on the other hand, had no doubt as to why. My heart goes out to you in sympathy for the pain you've undoubtedly endured.




mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1582)
Wed, 2nd Dec '09 10:20 PM

MickeyM, I have to admit that I'm not up to speed about laws pertaining to DV. Since reading your post, I've learned that the police can press charges if they feel its warranted. Interestingly enough, the victim does not have to sign them and can "help" the perpertrator in the long run also. How many are afraid and do this out of fear? DV is a tangled situation and I imagine far too many get away with it than don't. That's sad news.

Regarding Tiger Woods and his "transgressions"; how polite he is in describing the fact that he's been unfaithful. It's still sad for his family that its playing out on the world stage.

mickeym
Mickeym  (Level: 88.2 - Posts: 1803)
Thu, 3rd Dec '09 10:21 AM

MPlaw51, I didn't mean any disrespect, most people think only the victim can press charges, and the various newscasters often reinforce this view. And it does vary state to state and even to the city/town level. I was in a bookclub with a policeman and heard about what it did when the law changed...before the police could press charges they often responded to the same house week after week, with the victim battered but refusing to press charges, and there was nothing at all they could do. It is a difficult call, this law, but at least they could do something about habitual assaults. Sad no matter who it happens to....
Ann

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1582)
Thu, 3rd Dec '09 11:20 PM

No problem, Ann, I didn't take it that way. It's a shame if in fact any DV occurred (will we ever know?!), that it can't be used to educate the public and help those who are being badly abused escape.

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Fri, 4th Dec '09 3:40 AM

Have you seen the pictures on the internet of the "passenger side back window" of the vehicle? Wow! It appears some serious club swinging activity took place...


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