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1mks
1mks  (Level: 211.0 - Posts: 5883)
Mon, 8th Feb '10 9:06 AM

WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR SOCIETY?

A little 8 year old boy committed suicide in the restroom at his elementary school last week. I have absolutely no understanding of why that would happen. I cannot for the life of me even think of what his poor parents are going through. Is this too much crap on TV and movies? Were other kids bullying him at school? I honestly have no answers but it has really disturbed me. Four or five years ago, a former student of mine, hung himself when he was in junior high. The only thing that stuck in my mind was the first time he came up and hugged me and thanked me for helping him. I was absolutely crushed to learn of his death. I have no answers here....I guess I just wanted to vent. I do think there is too much pressure on children these days. I know I am older and possibly "miss" some of what is trying to be done but, I do not understand why they continue to test these children on a weekly basis. "You have to pass this or you want be able to go on to the next grade." One of my granddaughters is in the 2nd grade and honestly gets sick at her stomach because of the testing. It seems to me that they are no longer allowed to actually be children. AND teachers really no longer have the fun that they once did either because of all the pressure that they are also under.
Any way, bottom line, please pray for the parents of that 8 year old. I can only imagine their loss. It makes me extremely sad and fearful for what we as a society are doing to our children.

seniorrita
Seniorrita  (Level: 140.1 - Posts: 223)
Mon, 8th Feb '10 10:17 AM

Oh this is just awful. I am so sorry.

I have thought for a very long time that when children see things done on TV that they think it's alright to do that thing, whatever it is. TV has gone down the path forever putting out whatever sells without the guilt of being wrong in what they present. Same for movies. I only watch sports on TV nowdays.

I dont know what we can do to stop this. . I just saw AVATAR over the weekend and although it is a wonderful picture which I enjoyed I was very disappointed that they just had to throw in some dirty words. Is that really necessary? What does it add to the script? ("It's the way we talk, stupid!" will be the response. It's NOT the way I talk.)

The BLIND SIDE was probably the best show I've seen for a long time and INVICTUS is right behind it. I dont think BLIND SIDE even had a single "bad" word in it. And the story is true and admirable! GO SEE IT!

We need to stop tolerating what we dont like. . our merchandise is shabby. I hate buying clothing any more. Now even TOYOTA is in trouble. Where is this going to end? Now the pockets are gone off tshirts and polo shirts! Where the heck does one put your glasses. . in your hip pocket? Sure, and sit on them. But no pockets saves 4 inches square of fabric!

I grieve for folks raising children today. They have a lot more homework to do than we had raising our kids. What's happening to us?

the SeniorRita

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 12:30 PM

The response to this just about sums up how people could noy care less. Such a pity about the terrible way the modernists have been allowrd to ruin our childrens children, all in the pursuit of PROGRESS, which the majority know is so backward.

1mks
1mks  (Level: 211.0 - Posts: 5883)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 1:04 PM

Sadly, I think you are totally correct.

redsox9
Redsox9  (Level: 154.6 - Posts: 1290)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 1:08 PM

What a damn tragedy. For some things in life their are no answers. Condolences to the family.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 1:52 PM

I'll bet a sexy foot rub from Felix that kid was on some sort of ADD or anti-dep or funky meds.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 1:57 PM

Interesting, I just googled that case. It says suicides under 10 are incredibly rare, a handful in the US each year.

It says a lot of kids that age don't understand the concept of death, they think they'll be back at school the next day....

Sad.

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 3:40 PM

my heart goes out to his family and a hug for you marsha ,a couple of years ago a 10 year old of my friends son did the same i agree we are putting the children under too much pressure .
where has the joy of just learning gone .i fear we are storeing up a future of adults who will suffer with terrible bouts of depression and relateted problems .
they are too young to be out under so much pressure maybe its up to parents who should say stop enought let them enjoy there childhoods exams will be there soon enough x

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 3:40 PM

my heart goes out to his family and a hug for you marsha ,a couple of years ago a 10 year old of my friends son did the same i agree we are putting the children under too much pressure .
where has the joy of just learning gone .i fear we are storeing up a future of adults who will suffer with terrible bouts of depression and relateted problems .
they are too young to be out under so much pressure maybe its up to parents who should say stop enought let them enjoy there childhoods exams will be there soon enough x

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 3:50 PM

You can say that again.

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 4:34 PM

oops i just did doh its the tablets

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 6:26 PM

"""The response to this just about sums up how people could noy care less. Such a pity about the terrible way the modernists have been allowrd to ruin our childrens children, all in the pursuit of PROGRESS, which the majority know is so backward."""




Oh, I dunno, Barney. There are what, 6.7 billion people on earth? We are an animal species. I have seen studies that say 10 percent of humans have some sort of psychosis. Most of whom I've lived with or dated.

This is a sad and tragic story, if not just for the family but the school, because sometimes suicides come in bunches, and these children have had a bit of a loss of innocence. My son's high school had a tragic car accident (actually two). A lot of the kids didn't even want to drive when they could get their licenses...



kimoira
Kimoira  (Level: 201.9 - Posts: 1190)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 6:32 PM

The lack of response to this thread might have something to do with the fact that it got buried under all the muckety-muck that is on this board. I just now saw it and I am saddened to hear of this. I work in a special ed. field as does Marsha, and unfortunately suicides and attempts have become prevalent although I've not known anyone that young trying it. Yet.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 9th Feb '10 8:32 PM

Sometimes something is just so awful you don't know what to say.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 4:48 AM

Yep, I dislike many of the aspects of life my grandson is now starting to experience.
But I expect my grandparents said the same!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 5:03 AM

A tragic incident, but I doubt it relates to the excesses of American culture - some of which I see as overemphasis on sex, violence, celebrity, and money and a weakening of the family.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 5:39 AM

This is beyond tragic. I think Smaug's remarks are on target about pyschoses. Perhaps they're more prevalent or we're more educated, I don't know. We're certainly over medicated, that's for sure. For some, take your medicine, please....and that's not a joke.
How tormented this young child must have felt and being so young he couldn't articulate adequately, I imagine. What agony this family and their friends are going through. His classmates have been exposed first hand to the sadness also. It will live with them all the days of their lives, I'll bet.There are no cookie cutter answers out there.


surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 7:36 AM

Good Lord, Collioure, for once I agree with you!
For US read UK, although maybe not to such a degree.

knerd
Knerd  (Level: 99.0 - Posts: 1141)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 8:22 AM

I cannot even imagine - my heart breaks for this child and his family and all that have been impacted by his death. Just too sad. Hugs to you, Marsha.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Wed, 10th Feb '10 11:24 AM

If only you had a little more common sense, Alan

(and understood that the IRA began a few centuries later than the 1600's.)

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Thu, 11th Feb '10 3:30 AM

Why are you bringing this political rubbish into a sensitive discussion?

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 11th Feb '10 3:52 AM

Can you not recognize the different between history and politics?

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Thu, 11th Feb '10 5:38 AM

Do you have to be so ungracious about everything?
Yes, I know a bit of history, and obviously far more about UK history than you.
The very reasons for the IRA's existence started in the 1600s. Without a knowledge of that period, you cannot fully appreciate anything about that subject.
But, yes, this post certainly doesn't belong here. Move over to TT.


mickeym
Mickeym  (Level: 88.2 - Posts: 1803)
Thu, 11th Feb '10 5:36 PM

Going back to the original post, if you are referring to the tragic little 9 year old boy in Dallas who went to the school nurse and asked to go to her bathroom and committed suicide there, there is more to the story. He apparently locked the bathroom door, and the nurse said he had locked that door before. Depression in the very young is thankfully unusual but can occur. But society doesn't seem to be to blame here. He had an intact family and a school with a school nurse....that's a lot of support right there. We should be happy that suicide of tiny children is as rare as it is, and watch our pre-teens and teens very carefully.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Fri, 12th Feb '10 1:51 PM

Sorry, Bill and Alan, but you're both all wet.

The remark here is pure history. In fact the wider subject at TT is also all history and matter of fact. No politics whatsoever.

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Sat, 13th Feb '10 3:03 AM

As you have no idea what you are talking about, I rest my case.

buchanan
Buchanan  (Level: 81.3 - Posts: 339)
Tue, 16th Feb '10 11:33 AM

my prayers go out to the family and friends.I pray for all sploofusers everynight and anyone any age with mental/thought problems.


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