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(Level: 24.9 - Posts: 10)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 1:02 AM
I know that there are many people out there that rate according to their score rather than for content which just makes my blood boil! I know that I always rate a quiz between 6-9 (usually 8 or 9) UNLESS the author has arrows pointing to some or all of the answers because I feel that those quizzes are not, in fact, quizzes. As a trivia author, I respect my fellow authors as I would feel they would me (Do unto others...) and understand the time and effort that goes into writing a 10+ question quiz that someone will complete in 20 seconds. Sploofus states that they have a system in place to weed out the rating bombers but with an average score of 6.2, I think that some of these people are slipping through the cracks. Now, I only have a measly 28 quizzes out there and I know there are some members that have written 28 quizzes today~ it is to you that I pose the question... Do you feel that rating bombers are still prevailant or do you think that people are rating fairly and accurately?
(Level: 107.0 - Posts: 42)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 3:23 AM
I totally agree with you on this one. I always try to make sure I give a good rating for proper trivia quizzes. If people didn't make the effort to compile these quizzes where would we be? It really annoys me when the people who can't be bothered authoring a quiz give you a poor rating!
(Level: 20.7 - Posts: 79)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 4:55 AM
I just wanted say on my behalf that 1 or 2 of my quizzes have arrows pointing to the correct answer but only because after lanching the quiz I couldnt edit the wrong answer.
I used to get so upset when I would get bombed. But now I just accept it as a fact of sploofusing. The culprits are easily spotted wouldnt it be nice if we could report them so they coud be removed after being reported a few times? Just like an offensive quiz lol
(Level: 35.6 - Posts: 27)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 6:06 AM
I have brought this up to the editors many times since the ratings began. Many people downrate a quiz simply because they do poorly on it, this is not only unfair, it is VERY childish. I like a challenging quiz, afterall this IS a trivia site.
(Level: 67.0 - Posts: 197)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 8:28 AM
I will rate quizzes based on content and most of the time people get 6-8's from me. I have had a few come through and bomb my quiz based on the fact they did poorly on the quiz. Yes, I know I write some tough quizzes on drugs, but hey I am a pharmacy student and don't expect everyone to score 100%. There have been plenty of other drug quizzes that I have taken by others that I have done poorly on, but I rate them high because they were good and I learned something from them. Like dariana said, this is a trivia site...if you expect to get 100% on every quiz, then don't even sign up to be here.
(Level: 131.2 - Posts: 3769)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 2:16 PM
This a part of a conversation I had started. Several have seen it, but not all. It seems posting it here is as good as anything I can say.
I also am thinking of a two tiered point system with people who become quiz raters get extra points for the quizzes they then rate.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: low raters solution
Thats a great idea Steve, to earn the right to rate. Excellent.
I agree. I can live with the gold member thing, or maybe a waiting period or level achievement before you can start rating
Well as Gold members, our options truly are not much better than free accounts. I am trying hard to get them to alter things so hopefully we will see improvements coming soon. They are taking polls on a regular basis to get feedback. So I know they are doing their best.
I like the requirement to state why over me just being able to see who. I can frquently figure the who, but am still powerless to do anything substantial about it. Requiring an explanation will cause so to raise scores to avoid explaining. Other will simply not score, I would still get my points for them taking it, but they would get nothing since they didn't score it. In addition, input on problems with quizzes can be passed on with this system
I have already discussed this problem with the editors. I have suggested that authors be allowed to see who gave them a low rating OR that if you rate a quiz BELOW a 5, you be required to state WHY so the authors can use the info for future quizes. I have also repeatedly suggested that ONLY Gold Members be allowed to rate quizzes BECAUSE, many people join the free version of Sploofus, spend the day downgrading quizzes and THEN never even come back to the site. We are discussing these issues now. You have some great ideas and I thank you for sharing them with me. Many of us feel as you do.
Here is half an idea to deal with Quiz Bombers and the even more devious low-raters who stay off the Bomber Radar Screen by rating friends high enough to keep their average above the 3.00 that triggers the Bomber Alert. This can do a good job of identifying the stealth bombers and perhaps discourage them.
Currently, you need to rate a quiz in order to get the points for taking it. This has increased the number of people who rate quizzes. Also, low scores from Quiz Bombers are not applied to your quiz, so bombers do not drag down your scores…this is a positive step and has helped some. However, we still have people who float in a pass out plenty of sub-5 scores, but maintain a better, no matter how slight, average than 3.00. These people are the primary target of this idea.
How about if sploofus installs a filter to capture any and all sub-5 scores as they occur. If a person gives a quiz a sub-5 score, then they essentially saying that the quiz is below average, that flawed in some respect…or they are just a jerk.
As soon as a person gives out a sub-5 score, then a window should appear that require the person to send a comment to sploofus or the quiz maker, or both, and explain why they are scoring it under 5, which is you basic, decent quiz score. If they fail to send a comment, then their score will be canceled and not applied to the quiz makers average.
This system can work two ways. First, it can make people accountable for the scores they give. If they want to give low scores, then they must identify themselves, and they must explain themselves. If they are just being jerks, they will either opt out of giving the low score, raise their score to a 5 to avoid having to explain themselves, or make themselves obvious and visible.
The second way it can work is to improve quiz writing, identify flawed quizzes and to encourage editing of flawed quizzes. Bottom line, there are some bad quizzes out there for a variety of reasons. If a quiz is scored low and the comments identify valid points, such as horrid spelling, incorrect facts, “no-brainer” format, etc. Then the quiz maker can become aware of the issue(s) and correct them.
This is probably not a perfect cure all, and it may require some tweaking, but we should pass this around among our group of frequent quiz writers and if a consensus of us agree that it is a good idea, then we should lobby it hard to sploofus.
Pass this on if you agree...add comments if you wish.
(Level: 29.0 - Posts: 155)
Wed, 17th Aug '05 3:03 PM
Tuzilla - You and I are on the same page. I replied to another thread
just yesterday with basically the same suggestion, only my idea was slightly different. I suggested that the lower threshold be a 3 instead of a 5 (since I think the range for 'average' ratings should be somewhere between 4 and 6, with 7 being for the better quizzes) and I also suggested an upper threshold, too, so that truly exceptional quizzes (deserving of an 8 or a 9) can also generate some feedback. That way, people who want to go around giving out 1's and 9's will have to at least do a little more work.
Wed, 17th Aug '05 8:35 PM
Good feedback. Currently, we delete quiz bomber ratings weekly. A quiz bomber is any player who has rated more than 20 quizzes, and their average rating is less than 3.1. Each week, all of their ratings are removed from all quizzes they have taken -- effectively negating their presence.
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